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What in the world are you on about now? I have no doubt that PSL is socialist, but no evidence that CHIRLA is. But the point I was trying to make is that if they are legal organizations with the same right of free speech as everyone's else, then I DON'T CARE if they are socialist or communist.
Can you name any?
I know you don't, but that's not what you said rhat I responded to when pointing it out. I'm sure you are very happy with Sicialista and Communists marching in the streets. Every single one of these groups with ties to the Democratic Party.
Socialists and communists have been marching in the streets for years. It doesn't seem to do them much good, but it's their right to do it.
What fundamental transformations are you thinking of?
Sure it is. The Democratic Party is rhe prime mover for socialist programs. Including the migration crisis. The amount of taxpayer money
This isnt a thread for that, but if you started one I would be happy to post there.
What in the world is socialist about the immigration crisis? Do you think all those evil Mexicans are going to sieze the means of production?
Pooh. You haven't even told me what "the American way of life" that you defend means.
Have you not been following the enormous amount of tax dollars flowing to provide social services for the illegals? The provision of paying for illegals, housing, food, clothing, transportation, medical services, laundry is all part of socialist programs provided for by tax dollars.
Right, it's expensive. Despite the fact that you are exaggerating, it annoys the working poor to see immigrants getting benefits they are denied.
Right, but they are a boon to business owners who don't want to give them up.
It iseems to me that's a Conservative problem. It is being argued in this forum by conservatives that an illegal aliens who commits a crime should be deported rather than being made to stand trial and suffer the legal penalty for it before being deported. For example Judge Hannah Dugan was hearing the trial of an illegal alien for aggravated domestic abuse He was notorious for it and it looked like that the prosecution had a slam-dunk case. ICE wanted to come into the courtroom and take him away in the middle of the trial, but Dugan wanted the trial to continue so she snuck the guy out. And was arrested for it. Soon, the illegal alien will be safe in his own country without having to face judgement for the crimes he committed here--just like you want--and a "left-liberal" judge will be punished for trying to prevent it. MAGA!
Yup and we need to end that too. Paying illegals under the table is a real practice. Paying them cheaper wages is a real practice. I dont like it and dont want it.
Is it? I dont think so. I myself say that an illegal should pay for his crimes here before being deported. I think most conservatives would.
The penalty for being in a country illegally is to be deported. If you commit a crime while in a country illegally and only get deported, you are lucky. The country also saves a lot of money. The conflict of the penal system has always been whether to protect the citizens or to punish the criminal. You can do both, but the state is working primarily for the state. They try to do what is best for the state before what is best for the criminal and the victim.
