ICE Arrests Palestinian Ringleader of Anti-Israel Columbia Protests

[Belk]

Like government agencies that don’t investigate an instance of someone most likely engaged in human trafficking. Due process isn’t supposed to hinder investigation if it is merited I always thought.

Holy non sequiter batman.

 

[Postvieww]

Introduction To The Federal Court System

www.justice.gov

Only half of the question and you googled that! “and what it has to do with the points I made about judges who think that are above the law no matter what type of judge they are.” Care to tackle the hard part of the question?

 

[Bradskii]

Only half of the question and you googled that!

Well, yeah. I'm doing my best to find you reputable links that you can read and absorb.

“and what it has to do with the points I made about judges who think that are above the law no matter what type of judge they are.” Care to tackle the hard part of the question?

Well, that's not hard either. If a federal judge is found to have committed treason, bribery or high crimes and misdemeanors as they say then they can be impeached. I guess we can add that fact to all the others that you didn't know. It would require a lengthy investigation, the calling of witnesses and a vote of guilty by 2/3 of the Senate.

It has never happened as the result of a case ruling. And even some Republican Senators are against invoking impeachment as a result of a judicial finding. So guess what...it ain't going to happen.

Even if it did, the judicial decision would stand until the Senate decided that the judge was guilty. Of whatever charge someone thinks they'd like to bring. So you still have to abide by that judicial decision. If you don't like it, then impeachment is a non starter. So gee, I wonder what you could do? Well, and this is off the top of my head, you could appeal the ruling. You could kick it upstairs and eventually the SC will call it.

If they rule against you, then...that's it. Your only other option is then to call in the military and set up a dictatorship.

 

[Postvieww]

Well, yeah. I'm doing my best to find you reputable links that you can read and absorb.

Can’t help yourself.

Well, that's not hard either. If a federal judge is found to have committed treason, bribery or high crimes and misdemeanors as they say then they can be impeached. I guess we can add that fact to all the others that you didn't know. It would require a lengthy investigation, the calling of witnesses and a vote of guilty by 2/3 of the Senate.

Yes I did know that but it is irrelevant to the arrested judges I was talking about. They face federal charges and possibly jail time for obstruction of justice with no need for impeachment.

If they rule against you, then...that's it. Your only other option is then to call in the military and set up a dictatorship.

Liberal propaganda !

 

[Bradskii]

Can’t help yourself.

I'm really doing my best to help you.

Yes I did know that but it is irrelevant to the arrested judges I was talking about. They face federal charges and possibly jail time for obstruction of justice with no need for impeachment.

Oh, come on! We're talking federal judges for heaven's sake. Not county circuit. Why aren't you following this? The people, that's you, vote for those judges. They can't be impeached. Only federal judges are impeached and only federal judges are appointed by the president.

Liberal propaganda !

Well, unless you have another option? If you don't, and you don't want a dictatorship then you're going to have to to persuade me to include you under A. I'll do it if you like. It's your call.

 

[Postvieww]

I'm really doing my best to help you.

Your self perceived superiority is not helping you here. I don’t need your help!

Oh, come on! We're talking federal judges for heaven's sake. Not county circuit. Why aren't you following this? The people, that's you, vote for those judges. They can't be impeached. Only federal judges are impeached and only federal judges are appointed by the president.

I have talked about a lot of judges, the most recent were the two arrested. Since the topic here is about ICE arrest of a specific person, judges who break the law concerning ICE arrests is at the very least a related topic.

Well, unless you have another option? If you don't, and you don't want a dictatorship then you're going to have to to persuade me to include you under A. I'll do it if you like. It's your call.

To be clear I just gave you my personal opinion about obeying judge orders that clearly are not within constitutional authority or within the bounds of law. I have also stated legislation is the most likely remedy. But the sad fact that the prevailing liberal mind set of many unqualified setting in judgment is to make their own laws. It was just my personal opinion not that of the Trump administration. I ask you to list the court orders Trump defied and your silence was deafening. Liberals in this country crying dictator, Hitler and the end of democracy have no grip of reality. If you were in this country you fit right in.

 

[Bradskii]

I have talked about a lot of judges, the most recent were the two arrested. Since the topic here is about ICE arrest of a specific person, judges who break the law concerning ICE arrests is at the very least a related topic.

You don't understand the difference between district and federal. I can't help you anymore. I enjoy some of these discussions because it gives me an insight into the minds of those who support Trump. That's it. I've got what I wanted from this. My apologies if you didn't. Have a nice evening. Or a nice whatever-time-it-is-there (it's beer o'clock here).

 

[Lukaris]

Holy non sequiter batman.

Avoidance of a reply. I am referring to a traffic stop of Abrego Garcia in reply to other posters. If there is a miscommunication, I apologize if not, then my 1st sentence is my response including to any thumbs up fans.


The situation of Garcia;

Deported alleged MS-13 gangbanger Kilmar Abrego Garcia was driving convicted smuggler’s car during Tennessee traffic stop

The vehicle’s owner, Jose Ramon Hernandez Reyes, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 18 months in prison in 2020 for smuggling other illegal migrants from Mexico, El Salvador and Honduras.

nypost.com

 

[Postvieww]

You don't understand the difference between district and federal.

I do, but that is not the point of any of my discussion. You can't seem to grasp that fact.

I can't help you anymore.

Didn't ask for and don't need any so called help from a liberal mindset.

I enjoy some of these discussions because it gives me an insight into the minds of those who support Trump.

You do realize that works both ways! In my country it has been my experience that most liberals have a unhealthy superiority complex, but it is the liberal run states and cities that are falling apart at the seams and losing residents, higher taxes, rampant crime , protecting criminals and terrorist but all of the self proclaimed intelligence is not working as intended. I am content to live in a conservative state and daily enjoy my conservative exitence.

That's it. I've got what I wanted from this.

Great glad to be of help!

My apologies if you didn't.

No apology needed, liberals and conservatives have nothing in common and will almost never agree on much of anything.

Have a nice evening. Or a nice whatever-time-it-is-there (it's beer o'clock here).

You do the same enjoy your beer and your liberal paradise. I am sure I can entertain you again somewhere down the road.

 

[Bradskii]

In my country it has been my experience that most liberals have a unhealthy superiority complex...

Just going to note that pointing out to your interlocutor that he doesn't appear to know the basics about the subject he is discussing is not a superiority complex. And I'm pretty sure that being well informed is not unhealthy...

I am sure I can entertain you again somewhere down the road.

You've never failed so far, so that's something you probably have correct.

 

[Postvieww]

Just going to note that pointing out to your interlocutor that he doesn't appear to know the basics about the subject he is discussing is not a superiority complex. And I'm pretty that being well informed is not unhealthy...

I am confident I am far more informed about the happenings in my own country than you. Tell me again how much smarter you are.

 

[Bradskii]

I am confident I am far more informed about the happenings in my own country than you. Tell me again how much smarter you are.

People will make up their own minds about both of those points on the basis of what I post. It's not my place to say.

 

[Belk]

Avoidance of a reply. I am referring to a traffic stop of Abrego Garcia in reply to other posters. If there is a miscommunication, I apologize if not, then my 1st sentence is my response including to any thumbs up fans.


The situation of Garcia;

Deported alleged MS-13 gangbanger Kilmar Abrego Garcia was driving convicted smuggler’s car during Tennessee traffic stop

The vehicle’s owner, Jose Ramon Hernandez Reyes, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 18 months in prison in 2020 for smuggling other illegal migrants from Mexico, El Salvador and Honduras.

nypost.com

I think there is something I'm missing so I apologize as well.

The entirety of my point is that the deportation of Garcia was against a judges order and was illegal. Nothing about the man is relevant to that fact. We do not only enforce the law for people that we like because that is not the way the law works. The law must be enforced the same for everyone regardless of whom they are and how they have acted in the past.

Does that clarify what I was trying to communicate?

 

[Lukaris]

Does that clarify what I was trying to communicate?

Yes,

 

[essentialsaltes]

Rather, Rubio wrote Khalil could be expelled for his beliefs.


He said that while Khalil’s activities were “otherwise lawful,” letting him remain in the country would undermine “U.S. policy to combat anti-Semitism around the world and in the United States, in addition to efforts to protect Jewish students from harassment and violence in the United States.”

Judge wants to know when else this power has been used by the Secretary of State.

 

[essentialsaltes]

CNN: DHS civil rights office opened investigation into Mahmoud Khalil’s arrest days before office was dissolved​

The Department of Homeland Security’s oversight arm opened an investigation into the controversial arrest of Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil only days before officials working for that office were placed on administrative leave, according to a whistleblower disclosure exclusively obtained by CNN.

It’s an example, according to whistleblowers, of the type of work that is now paused after the department’s Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties was dissolved in late March. The elimination of the office, which had about 150 employees, came around the same time that civil rights offices were similarly shuttered or severely reduced within the departments of Defense, Justice and Education.

When the DHS office was closed, it had about 550 open investigations — ranging from accusations against FEMA personnel skipping over the homes of Trump supporters during disaster-relief work, poor conditions in immigrant detention, more than two dozen open cases of alleged sexual abuse and the high-profile arrest of Khalil, according to the disclosure sent to key congressional committees on behalf of whistleblowers by the Government Accountability Project, a non-partisan, nonprofit whistleblower support organization.

DHS Halted 500+ Civil Rights Investigations When It Shut Down Oversight Office, Whistleblowers Say

Today, Government Accountability Project filed two protected whistleblower disclosures to Congress detailing the grave consequences of the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) closure of the Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties (CRCL). Prior to its closure, CRCL advised DHS on civil rights and civil liberties issues as well as investigated complaints of violations by the public.

 

[rjs330]

Judge wants to know when else this power has been used by the Secretary of State.

Why on earth does rhe judge need to know this? Let's just say its never been done before. So what? It doeant mean its wrong to do it now. The first time a decision is made to do something doesn't mean its automatically incorrect. Good grief. The judge ought to know this. Its his job to look into precedence. Its his job to determine what to do based upon the facts presented and prior case law if it exists. Being the first time used is irrelevant.

 

[Hans Blaster]

CNN: DHS civil rights office opened investigation into Mahmoud Khalil’s arrest days before office was dissolved​

The Department of Homeland Security’s oversight arm opened an investigation into the controversial arrest of Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil only days before officials working for that office were placed on administrative leave, according to a whistleblower disclosure exclusively obtained by CNN.

It’s an example, according to whistleblowers, of the type of work that is now paused after the department’s Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties was dissolved in late March. The elimination of the office, which had about 150 employees, came around the same time that civil rights offices were similarly shuttered or severely reduced within the departments of Defense, Justice and Education.

When the DHS office was closed, it had about 550 open investigations — ranging from accusations against FEMA personnel skipping over the homes of Trump supporters during disaster-relief work, poor conditions in immigrant detention, more than two dozen open cases of alleged sexual abuse and the high-profile arrest of Khalil, according to the disclosure sent to key congressional committees on behalf of whistleblowers by the Government Accountability Project, a non-partisan, nonprofit whistleblower support organization.

DHS Halted 500+ Civil Rights Investigations When It Shut Down Oversight Office, Whistleblowers Say

Today, Government Accountability Project filed two protected whistleblower disclosures to Congress detailing the grave consequences of the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) closure of the Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties (CRCL). Prior to its closure, CRCL advised DHS on civil rights and civil liberties issues as well as investigated complaints of violations by the public.

How did DHS accrue 550+ internal civil rights investigations?

Oh, wait, nevermind -- ICE and CBP are in DHS. Civil rights violations are long standing SOP at ICE/CBP.

 

[essentialsaltes]

CNN: DHS civil rights office opened investigation into Mahmoud Khalil’s arrest days before office was dissolved​

The Department of Homeland Security’s oversight arm opened an investigation into the controversial arrest of Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil only days before officials working for that office were placed on administrative leave, according to a whistleblower disclosure exclusively obtained by CNN.

Judge says Rubio 'likely' violated Constitution in ordering Mahmoud Khalil deported​

A federal judge has ruled that Secretary of State Marco Rubio likely violated the Constitution when he stripped Mahmoud Khalil of his green card and ordered him deported over his pro-Palestinian activism at Columbia University.

But in a lengthy, mixed ruling, U.S. District Judge Michael Farbiarz in New Jersey declined, for now, to order Khalil released from federal immigration detention in Louisiana, where he's been held since ICE agents arrested him in New York City on March 8. Judge Farbiarz said Khalil had not yet proven that his detention is causing him "irreparable harm," and gave him more time to provide evidence that it is.

--

(in kinda related news, the frog embryo 'smuggler'/researcher was illegally detained.)
A federal judge in Vermont on Wednesday released a Russian-born scientist and Harvard University researcher from immigration custody as she deals with a criminal charge of smuggling frog embryos into the United States.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Being the first time used is irrelevant.

To some extent. But if it has been used before, the context in which it has been used would be useful in determining whether this was a valid or appropriate use of the power. And if it hasn't been used before, even in spite of the existence of similar situations, that would suggest that this may not have been the intended use of the power.