I would be ashamed to agree with Evolutionists!

[ej]

When I think about what might make me ashamed to be a human, war sprung to mind.
But humans are one of 3 species of animal which wage war.

And as for the appenix... it's a very useful organ for trainee surgeons

 

[Jet Black]

When I think about what might make me ashamed to be a human, war sprung to mind.
But humans are one of 3 species of animal which wage war.

I assume the others are the hymenoptera. They are a slightly odd case though, in that a whole colony can be regarded as a single organism in some ways, since the whole colony serves the germline of the queen. In a sense, ants or termites going to war is just about the same as a couple of animals having a scrap.

Hymenoptera colonies (includes bees and wasps) are stunningly cool.

And as for the appenix... it's a very useful organ for trainee surgeons

finally a use is discovered for those pesky vestigial organs

 

[ej]

The other two were ants and babboons apparently.

Makes me wonder whether war as a survival-instinct mechanism is any different to war as we know it... or whether our 'free will' is a product of imagination

 

[Jet Black]

Baboons? I will have to look into that one.

well as for ants, war gets their genes propagated, and is an evolutionarily stable strategy; If no ant colonies went to war with one another, and all coexisted over a similar area, then a mutation happened which incited a certain ant colony to destroy any other ant colony it came across, then that mutant would invariably be the most successful and take over the entire ant population (on account of all th others being dead) - it would also allow the warring ants to define their catchment area of food gathering much better, stopping warring ants from crowding themselves out of existance.

Humans are a slightly different case, since our wars tend to be ideological wars, power wars or religious wars. It is a similar sort of thing, but the thing we are defending tends to be more mental.

 

[Meatros]

Isn't it shamfull to the human race to say that we all came from monkeys???


God Bless!

Witness

Now if only the world revolved our wants and dreams.

Unfortunately it doesn't. Welcome to the real world, I'm sorry you had to swallow the red pill.

 

[toff]

The other two were ants and babboons apparently.

Makes me wonder whether war as a survival-instinct mechanism is any different to war as we know it... or whether our 'free will' is a product of imagination

Chimps, too. See Jane Goodall's work.

 

[Jet Black]

Chimps, too. See Jane Goodall's work.

some chimps also make vicious hunters. I recall hearing of them hunting some other primate I think it was and then clubbing it to death with stones before eating it. rather nasty.

 

[ForeRunner]

Humans are a slightly different case, since our wars tend to be ideological wars, power wars or religious wars. It is a similar sort of thing, but the thing we are defending tends to be more mental.

I'll have to disagree with you there. We have wars for the same reasons ants do... wealth(resources). All human wars were fought over money (in some form or another).

It is simple really...

Money = Power = Mates = Lots of Offspring

And that, at some level, is what we all want, our genes to carry on. Ah, natural selection. Of course, the result of our bigger brains allows us to check these basic desires somewhat, but it is all still there.

 

[lucaspa]

Isn't it shamfull to the human race to say that we all came from monkeys???

Why? most monkeys have better morals than we do! Ever hear of a monkey committing a terrorist act?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Isn't it shamfull to the human race to say that we all came from monkeys???


God Bless!

Witness

Isn't it a relief that the truth or falsehood of a scientific theory does not depend on your ego?

We evolved; deal with it!

 

[Arthur Dietrich]

Awww....how can you be ashamed of this: http://www.animalwatch.org/makeadifference/images/baby_ape.jpg


EDIT: I'd be ashamed to agree with any evolutionist who said we evolved from monkeys. What evolutionist said this? He/She needs to study more.

 

[Fiendishjester]

I don't mind being descended from other apes at all. I think it's pretty cool actually. The idea of all humans being descended from Adam and Eve kinda scares me...just think of all the incest...plus all those pictures of Adam and Eve bother me as well, I don't think I was descended from a Caucasian...

 

[Hydra009]

Let me be devil's advocate a second.

How can human beings and monkeys/apes be related when human beings are so many characteristics that monkeys/apes don't have?

Like walking erect, having opposable thumbs, large brains, water-resistant skin which is useful for swimming, etc.
(Not to mention self-awareness, morality, philosophy, art, music, complex tools, etc.)

 

[Philosoft]

FYI, many other non-human primates have opposable thumbs. Orangutans, for instance.

 

[DrLao]

How can human beings and monkeys/apes be related when human beings are so many characteristics that monkeys/apes don't have?

Like walking erect, having opposable thumbs, large brains, water-resistant skin which is useful for swimming, etc.
(Not to mention self-awareness, morality, philosophy, art, music, complex tools, etc.)

Apes have opposable thumbs and large brains and water-resistant skin. Apes don't, as a rule, walk erect, but some of them (the ones who are most closely related to us: gorillas, chimps and bonobos) knucklewalk, an intermediate stage between erect walking and spending all your time swinging from the trees. And we've got great fossils of creatures that are no longer around, but walked upright just as well as we do and yet had ape brains between their ears.

 

[Data]

Let me be devil's advocate a second.

How can human beings and monkeys/apes be related when human beings are so many characteristics that monkeys/apes don't have?

Like walking erect, having opposable thumbs, large brains, water-resistant skin which is useful for swimming, etc.
(Not to mention self-awareness, morality, philosophy, art, music, complex tools, etc.)

Apes have self-awareness, morality, and they can paint

They also have enormous brains compared to everything else. We just have bigger. Some monkeys also do walk erect some of the time. (gibbon I think?) And again, apes do have opposable thumbs. As well as simple tools.

 

[Larry]

It's utterly amazing how some associate shame with the concept that man evolved from an earlier life form, but have no qualms whatsoever with the concept that we were made from dirt.

Unbelievable.

 

[Lupin]

Its a load of **** that we evolved from apes. Whats amazing is that ppl think that we evolved from things so tiny that the human eye can't see it alone, and by that im talking about the evolutionist who think before we were monkeys we were bacteria.

 

[Pusherbot]

Isn't it shamfull to the human race to say that we all came from monkeys???


God Bless!

Witness

Even though from what I've heard we evolution suggests we didn't come from monkeys, but instead have come from a common ancestor.
That is besides the point, the logical conclusions from a theory do not affect the veracity of the theory unless a conclusion can be made that is inconsistent with reality. Whether it is shameful or not that we came from monkey's doesn't determine whether or not we did.

 

[Lupin]

How can ppl be so ignorent. I only feel sorry for them.