I reject the creeds

[Uphill Battle]

Not because I think there is neccessarily inaccurate statments in any particular creed, but because I don't believe that a creed has really anything to do with whether or not you are redeemed by Christ.

thoughts?

 

[JacktheCatholic]

Not because I think there is neccessarily inaccurate statments in any particular creed, but because I don't believe that a creed has really anything to do with whether or not you are redeemed by Christ.

thoughts?

How is this related to Theology?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Not because I think there is neccessarily inaccurate statments in any particular creed, but because I don't believe that a creed has really anything to do with whether or not you are redeemed by Christ.

thoughts?

Like Baskin Robbins, different flavors for different folks

http://64.33.81.65/index.htm

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[tadoflamb]

You would make a great Unitarian Universalist.

 

[Uphill Battle]

How is this related to Theology?

you going to tell me that the Creeds have nothing to do with Theology?

weird!

 

[tadoflamb]

Correction: Make that an Universalist Unitarian.

 

[JacktheCatholic]

you going to tell me that the Creeds have nothing to do with Theology?

weird!

Of course the Creeds do. They are a part of Christianity as the Bible is. I am asking if your thread is Thoeologically based.

 

[Uphill Battle]

You would make a great Unitarian Universalist.

why?

I don't believe what they do... who woult that make me a good candidate?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

you going to tell me that the Creeds have nothing to do with Theology?

weird!

One question I have is how have the Creeds UNITED Christianity? But then, all we have to do is look around at non-Christian religions and see how they are divided and that includes Islam and Judaism, so it is not confined to just those of us of the Faith of JESUS>

Ezekiel 37:22 And I make them to a-nation, One in land, in mountains of Israel. And a King, One, shall become for all of them to a-King and not he/they shall be further to two of Nations and not they shall be divided furthur to two of Kingdoms further

Zephaniah 3:15 YHWH takes away judgements of thee. He makes face-about one being enemy of thee. King of Yisra'el, YHWH in within of thee, not thou shall fear evil further.

 

[Uphill Battle]

Of course the Creeds do. They are a part of Christianity as the Bible is. I am asking if your thread is Thoeologically based.

Of course.

I think it's already been misunderstood though.


the POINT of the OP is, I don't disagree with the contents of this creed, or another, but I "reject them" due to the fact that I don't think creedal adherence has any bearing on salvation. I don't think anyone has to "sign their name on this dotted line" to be Christian.

so far, I've been likened to Universalists.... wonder what's next.

 

[sunlover1]

. I don't think anyone has to "sign their name on this dotted line" to be Christian.

so far, I've been likened to Universalists.... wonder what's next.

I agree with this.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I agree with this.

With him being a universalist? J/K

 

[Uphill Battle]

I know some Christians who have never HEARD of the Nicene creed.

I suppose in some peoples books, that would make them quasi or non Christian.

is "adherence" to the creed even remotely neccessary?

what, if anything, does the creed do to impact your position with God?

 

[HandmaidenOfGod]

I know some Christians who have never HEARD of the Nicene creed.

I suppose in some peoples books, that would make them quasi or non Christian.

is "adherence" to the creed even remotely neccessary?

what, if anything, does the creed do to impact your position with God?

Reciting the Nicene Creed in and of itself does not make oneself a Christian. You have to put this into context as to when it was written. It was basically written to be a quick statement of faith as to what Christians believed. Up until this point there was no such thing. Remember, things like the doctrine of the Trinity, the dual nature of Christ, the virgin birth, etc were just being worked out and established at this time. The Nicene Creed is a quick and concise way of putting together what Christians believed. Also, during an age when illiteracy rates were quite high, it was relatively short and easy enough for people to memorize. Furthermore, the Creed was written before the Bible Canon had been established. (Council of Nicea was 381 AD, the Council of Carthage -- where the Bible Canon was established -- occured in 397 AD. Yes, that's right, for 397 years the Church did NOT have a Bible.)

The Creed was also written to combat Arianism; a heresy that later went on to bear Islam.

So does reciting the Creed make one a Christian? No, confessing faith in the Jesus Christ, being baptized in the name of the Trinity and following God's commandments makes one a Christian.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

(Council of Nicea was 381 AD, the Council of Carthage -- where the Bible Canon was established -- occured in 397 AD. Yes, that's right, for 397 years the Church did NOT have a Bible.)

Doesn't seem like it did much good Canonizing a Bible

 

[simonthezealot]

Not because I think there is neccessarily inaccurate statments in any particular creed, but because I don't believe that a creed has really anything to do with whether or not you are redeemed by Christ.

thoughts?

The only creed I stand behind is the first one on record...
JESUS IS LORD!

 

[simonthezealot]

You would make a great Unitarian Universalist.

Eegads this coming from the church that says muslims are in the salvation picture...

 

[tadoflamb]

why?

I don't believe what they do... who woult that make me a good candidate?

Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion with Jewish-Christian roots. It has no creed. It affirms the worth of human beings, advocates freedom of belief and the search for advancing truth, and tries to provide a warm, open, supportive community for people who believe that ethical living is the supreme witness of religion.

http://www.uua.org/aboutus/index.shtml

 

[HandmaidenOfGod]

Hogwash, do need to slap you again???
NO creed is God's word!

Your post is downright offensive! Threatening violence against another member because you disagree with him?

Where are the mods??!!!

He never said the Creed was God's word. Furthermore, every part of the Nicene Creed can be found IN the Bible.

Not to mention, the Creed existed before the Bible did!

 

[Uphill Battle]

Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion with Jewish-Christian roots. It has no creed. It affirms the worth of human beings, advocates freedom of belief and the search for advancing truth, and tries to provide a warm, open, supportive community for people who believe that ethical living is the supreme witness of religion.

http://www.uua.org/aboutus/index.shtml

hmm. doesn't sound like me at all.

but thanks for the attempt to pigeonhole me in a section you can readily mock.

He never said the Creed was God's word. Furthermore, every part of the Nicene Creed can be found IN the Bible.

other than the word Catholic.

Not to mention, the Creed existed before the Bible did!

well... kinda.