I really need to know if this is Demonic

[Pastor_Benjamin]

Talk to your parents as well as your Pastor and see how they feel about it.

 

[AirForceTeacher]

I wouldn't dismiss it solely because the bible doesn't list it as a gift of the spirit. The disciples that were sent out could grab serpents without damage. One apostle (I disremember which) was transported in an instant to another city.

OTOH, nowhere have I seen that talent other than bad movies and con artists. Also, miraculous events in the Bible occurred for one purpose: to glorify God, either by blessing others, serving His kingdom or signs of God's purpose. If you can do this just for the fun of it, it doesn't sound like it glorifies God. Noone prophesies the winner of the Superbowl in July just to impress their friends, right?

If you can sincerely do this, then pray for God's wisdom. Find a pastor you trust (he/she will have to have a really open mind!) to talk to about it. Tell him you're not sure about this ability and you want to test the spirit. Pray with him about it. If he does not sense God's will against it, see if you can perform the gift in his presence after praying.

The one sure piece of advice I can say is this. If you are a Christian, your salvation is from the Blood of Christ. Your heart is God's property and you can trust Him with it. Ask Him to keep your surrounded by His protection.

 

[Risen Tree]

If this is a demonic power, keep in mind that God can turn it around and use it for His glory. Quite frankly, we need more people with righteous supernatural powers, and it's great to hear that we have a fine candidate for the task.

Do you know anyone who has incredible spiritual insight into matters such as these?

In the meantime, pray, pray, pray.

 

[LynneClomina]

no i havent done any type of meditation all i did was sit down and try it..it did take a while for me to be able to do it ..but yes it did work..and no i havent been watching any moves with some friends that would influence me in this way......my friends dont even know about it.....but anyways...

you said you sat down and tried it... and it took a while for you to be able to do it...

i seriously would say that repeatedly trying to do something like that is "asking" for it, and if you ask, you will often get what you are asking for... if we ask repeatedly for the devil to give us
some power (why???), he is more than "happy" to oblidge, and God will back off and let us work our way into "the pit" so to speak, turn us over to the evil our hearts so much desire...

please heed these warnings... if you can.

 

[happily_saved]

I would say its demonic. sounds lik it to me. Some people may not believe this, but my mother is possessed. not 24/7 but when she gets angry this is when satan grabs hold of her. And this winter it was a calm night outside, no wind or n e thing. and we were watchin t.v and she looked outside and the lawchair on our porch went sliding super fast across the porch. it was unbelievable, scary tho.

 

[JesusInMyHeart]

Philippians 2:5 says let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus. That is a sound mind. It is a pure mind. It is the mind of Jesus Christ that will go into the kingdom of God. Make sure that we work and we focus on having the mind of Jesus Christ.

 

[The Midge]

Tyler16
Remember people said Jesus healings were of the Devil.

 

[JesusInMyHeart]

Spiritual Powers:

You must separate yourself from sin (see 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:l9-21; Ephesians 5:4-5; Revelation 21:8). This includes envy, hate, anger, greed, bad language, occult practices, dishonesty, sex outside of marriage, homosexuality, stealing, getting drunk, and practices that are injurious to health.

Because if you've have made God your God, you must obey him and look to Him alone for direction. It is therefore wrong to resort to horoscopes, palmistry, tarot cards, seances, ouija boards, and so on. (Deuteronomy 18:10-15; 1 Chronicles 10:13,14; Isaiah 8:19).

The Bible clearly teaches that there are evil spirits, as well as good spirits (eg. 1 John 4:1). God is the Good Spirit and he is in charge of all other good spiritual beings (angels). Since the only way to God is through Jesus (John 14:6), any spiritual experiences that occur without complete reliance upon Jesus Christ, cannot be from God. Such psychic phenomena must therefore be due to the activities of evil spirits. Note that I am referring to actual psychic phenomena and not to instances when trickery is used to simulate these practices. Don’t be fooled by the quasi-scientific explanations and the apparent harmlessness of many occult practices Evil spiritual powers that are violently opposed to God are behind such seemingly innocent things as ESP, telepathy, clairvoyance, astral travel, levitation, magic, table-tipping, water-divining, charms, witchcraft (white and black), telekinesis, parakinesis and psychometry. Some think these are quite harmless. Break the hidden hold any of these has over you by confessing them to God as sin. Ask your Lord’s forgiveness and protection and have nothing more to do with such practices.

 

[InHim23]

I used to be into New Age, yes I was gifted too, and Yes it is from the devil...

You need to get all non-christian books and things/crystals out of your room, and pray... annoint your room...

It's part of witchcraft... Let me know how I ca help...

God Bless,
InHim23

 

[Whitestone]

Is there anyway to use this to the glory of God, without becoming a circus act?

 

[PottersClay]

you said you sat down and tried it... and it took a while for you to be able to do it...

i seriously would say that repeatedly trying to do something like that is "asking" for it, and if you ask, you will often get what you are asking for... if we ask repeatedly for the devil to give us
some power (why???), he is more than "happy" to oblidge, and God will back off and let us work our way into "the pit" so to speak, turn us over to the evil our hearts so much desire...

please heed these warnings... if you can.

Tyler,

I completely agree with Lynne. You need to renounce having opened yourself to this "ability" and ask the Lord to remove it from you and to break any demonic influence that might have come with it. I promise, He will be more than faithful to do that.

 

[Risen Tree]

Tyler,

I completely agree with Lynne. You need to renounce having opened yourself to this "ability" and ask the Lord to remove it from you and to break any demonic influence that might have come with it. I promise, He will be more than faithful to do that.

Or maybe he needs to ask God to conform an ability to do evil into an abillity to do good?

 

[AirForceTeacher]

Ok, I think something that's been said before in this thread bears repeating. If you can use it to glorify God, then pray for that. But if it's just a parlor trick, it's probably not of God and should be discontinued. Talk to your pastor about it. Pray with your pastor about it.

Your descriptions of using it don't seem to be ways that glorify God, but still open your heart to God about it. I don't believe that if you sincerely ask God for His will and for Him to control this power in you, that any amount of 'trying' to perform it will invite demons or demonic power in your life. Draw nigh to God and He will draw nigh to you. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

 

[PottersClay]

Or maybe he needs to ask God to conform an ability to do evil into an abillity to do good?

I understand what you're trying to say here, but in the context of this thread I believe it is a great danger.

There are only two sources of supernatural occurances: God's and satan.

When God gives a spiritual gift, He gives it for the purpose of drawing people to Himself (whether that be through healing, prophetic knowledge etc). And even those to whom He has given such gifts, they are not that person's gift to exercise at will. Even Jesus while on this earth did nothing of His own volition.

This ability Tyler has described is little more than a parlor trick, and its only real effect is to give the person the apperance of having some special power. That is not how God operates. It is, however, exactly how satan traps millions.

When someone in the occult (or tapping into occult abilities) moves an object, or causes something to happen by thinking it or concentrating on it, they are merely using demonic spirits to do their bidding. It does not matter if the person using this power is aware of this or even believes it. And it does not matter if the person using this power thinks they're using thier power for God. The source of the power is still demonic, and IMO that's a danger just not worth taking chances with.

Tyler, you may think my advice is a little over the top, but I've seen first-hand the effect this type of dabbling can have. It's not a game. I pray you just shut the door on this thing, and pray the Lord shows you the truth.

Please forgive me if I've offended anyone.

PottersClay

 

[Risen Tree]

I understand what you're trying to say here, but in the context of this thread I believe it is a great danger.

There are only two sources of supernatural occurances: God's and satan.

When God gives a spiritual gift, He gives it for the purpose of drawing people to Himself (whether that be through healing, prophetic knowledge etc). And even those to whom He has given such gifts, they are not that person's gift to exercise at will. Even Jesus while on this earth did nothing of His own volition.

This ability Tyler has described is little more than a parlor trick, and its only real effect is to give the person the apperance of having some special power. That is not how God operates. It is, however, exactly how satan traps millions.

When someone in the occult (or tapping into occult abilities) moves an object, or causes something to happen by thinking it or concentrating on it, they are merely using demonic spirits to do their bidding. It does not matter if the person using this power is aware of this or even believes it. And it does not matter if the person using this power thinks they're using thier power for God. The source of the power is still demonic, and IMO that's a danger just not worth taking chances with.

Tyler, you may think my advice is a little over the top, but I've seen first-hand the effect this type of dabbling can have. It's not a game. I pray you just shut the door on this thing, and pray the Lord shows you the truth.

Please forgive me if I've offended anyone.

PottersClay

Good point, but if it's a real part of him, it's pointless to completely get rid of it. Far better to have God take what is evil and transform it into good. Now if he just developed it as a parlor trick, that's another story.

 

[ShetlandRose]

I understand what you're trying to say here, but in the context of this thread I believe it is a great danger.

There are only two sources of supernatural occurances: God's and satan.

When God gives a spiritual gift, He gives it for the purpose of drawing people to Himself (whether that be through healing, prophetic knowledge etc). And even those to whom He has given such gifts, they are not that person's gift to exercise at will. Even Jesus while on this earth did nothing of His own volition.

This ability Tyler has described is little more than a parlor trick, and its only real effect is to give the person the apperance of having some special power. That is not how God operates. It is, however, exactly how satan traps millions.

When someone in the occult (or tapping into occult abilities) moves an object, or causes something to happen by thinking it or concentrating on it, they are merely using demonic spirits to do their bidding. It does not matter if the person using this power is aware of this or even believes it. And it does not matter if the person using this power thinks they're using thier power for God. The source of the power is still demonic, and IMO that's a danger just not worth taking chances with.

Tyler, you may think my advice is a little over the top, but I've seen first-hand the effect this type of dabbling can have. It's not a game. I pray you just shut the door on this thing, and pray the Lord shows you the truth.

Please forgive me if I've offended anyone.

PottersClay

PottersClay has given EXCELLENT counsel.

 

[AirForceTeacher]

A great many people in this thread have jumped immediately onto the assumption that this power is demonic and must be stopped at all costs. While I understand the reaction, I don't think it's healthy.

The apostles in the early church did amazing things in the name of God, and I'm sure that made people uneasy, too.

Tyler, seek God. Pray for His protection and guidance. Remember that if it doesn't glorify Him, it should be suspect.

One thing I do agree with many of the posters: if this power is demonic, there is no way to "turn it to God's glory." It's either a gift from God, to be used to glorify; a natural human talent (neither good nor bad) that noone's ever been able to prove before; or a demonic trick. If it's from God, glorify Him with it and never use it as a parlor trick. If it's a new human talent (doubtful) still use it to glorify God. If it's a demonic trick, than the Holy Spirit should convict you of that if you seek Him, and if you seek His will to remove the power, than no amount of trying it (as long as while you try it you ask for God's poer to be manifest) should bring it back.

 

[Risen Tree]

A great many people in this thread have jumped immediately onto the assumption that this power is demonic and must be stopped at all costs. While I understand the reaction, I don't think it's healthy.

The apostles in the early church did amazing things in the name of God, and I'm sure that made people uneasy, too.

Tyler, seek God. Pray for His protection and guidance. Remember that if it doesn't glorify Him, it should be suspect.

Good word.

One thing I do agree with many of the posters: if this power is demonic, there is no way to "turn it to God's glory." It's either a gift from God, to be used to glorify; a natural human talent (neither good nor bad) that noone's ever been able to prove before; or a demonic trick. If it's from God, glorify Him with it and never use it as a parlor trick. If it's a new human talent (doubtful) still use it to glorify God. If it's a demonic trick, than the Holy Spirit should convict you of that if you seek Him, and if you seek His will to remove the power, than no amount of trying it (as long as while you try it you ask for God's poer to be manifest) should bring it back.

Why? By this I mean completely turning it over to God and letting Him remake the ability into something good. Certain people simply have a knack for getting in touch with the supernatural. In and of itself, what's so bad about that? God's supernatural, isn't He? Is it bad to get in touch with God?

 

[AirForceTeacher]

Why? By this I mean completely turning it over to God and letting Him remake the ability into something good. Certain people simply have a knack for getting in touch with the supernatural. In and of itself, what's so bad about that? God's supernatural, isn't He? Is it bad to get in touch with God?

If this power is the result of a 'knack for getting in touch with the supernatural' then there are three possibilities:

a) God is moving the objects
b) Angels are moving the objects
c) Fallen angels are moving the objects
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That's it. No other possibilities. If a or b are true, then cool! Glorify GOD! If c is true, then how do you turn the ability to get demons to do you favors for God's glory? You can't.

Now, this still leaves the completely un-supernatural possibility that this is a new talent for humankind (the whole 'we don't use 90% of our brain' theory set) While this is not likely to be the case, this would be the only way I could see 'turning it into something for God' much like an athlete humbly praising God for his skills or a musician getting saved and using it to minister.

No matter what, Philippians tells us to do all things for the glory of God. That should be our measuring stick for any choice. (Not that I'm boasting, my measuring stick is often dusty!)

 

[PottersClay]

Certain people simply have a knack for getting in touch with the supernatural. In and of itself, what's so bad about that?

What's so bad about it is that the supernatural is not like money or posessions in that it's only what you do with them or your attitude toward them that make them good or evil. If that is one's attitude toward the supernatural, they're already in grave danger of being deceived.

Remember, satan masquerades as an angel of light, and if one is only looking for the supernatural to appear good, satan has an easy mark.

God's supernatural, isn't He? Is it bad to get in touch with God?

Yes it is, if you are not doing it in the way God requires or if you are doing it in a way that is using supernatural forces that are not of Him.

Because of King Saul's disobedience, by the end of his reign, the Lord had ceased speaking to him. He was so desparate to hear God's voice, he went to a medium hoping that she could summon the prophet Samuel so Samuel could tell him what the Lord was saying.

Remember, he was just trying to hear from God regarding Isreal when he went to the medium, so what's the problem? The problem was not just that he went to a witch, the problem was he was trying to get around God's requirements.

Though we are always able to come into the Lord's presence, we are not permitted to do so however we want simply because we see seeking Him as being good.

Peace,
PottersClay