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"I now recognize the Representative from Deleware, Mr. McBride."

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Not giving into someone’s fantasy isn’t rude. Period.
Addressing someone in a way that they have asked you not to is rude. Period.
 
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No one is being forced to live a fantasy. You are free to think whatever you like about Rep. McBride.
Correct. And people have a right to address Rep. McBride as they choose.
 
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Correct. And people have a right to address Rep. McBride as they choose.
They certainly do. That doesn't mean it isn't rude. No one is forced to be polite, nor is rudeness prohibited.
 
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They certainly do. That doesn't mean it isn't rude.
So they must affirm the their so called identity or pronouns in order for it not to be rude?

Rep. McBride must have tough skin.
 
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So they must affirm the their so called identity or pronouns in order for it not to be rude?
Addressing people in the way that they wish to be addressed is basic politeness. Would you appreciate it if I started calling you Sheila? After all, your avatar is a woman. Or would you think that was rude?
Rep. McBride must have tough skin.
She does seem to. I admire her ability to stay focused on the issues rather than getting distracted by the petty rudeness of her peers.
 
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Addressing people in the way that they wish to be addressed is basic politeness. Would you appreciate it if I started calling you Sheila? After all, your avatar is a woman. Or would you think that was rude?

She does seem to. I admire her ability to stay focused on the issues rather than getting distracted by the petty rudeness of her peers.
They’re trying to control people’s speech.

Mr. McBride made his choices and has to live with them. He’s not a victim here.

Some people aren’t comfortable with transsexuals and don’t want to compromise their views on it.

Also, my avatar is of Our Lady of Tenderness,
 
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They’re trying to control people’s speech.
I'm not sure how requesting that people address you a certain way is "controlling people's speech." My friend John went by Harry his whole childhood. They days, he prefers Jack. I've never felt like he was trying to control my speech - I call him by his preferred name because that's polite. It doesn't affect me one way or another what name he goes by.
Mr. McBride made his choices and has to live with them. He’s not a victim here.
No one's calling her a victim. I just said that people were being rude. Because they are.
Some people aren’t comfortable with transsexuals and don’t want to compromise their views on it.
So call her "Representative McBride" if addressing her as "Ms. McBride" makes you uncomfortable.
Also, my avatar is of Our Lady of Tenderness,
I'm aware.
 
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I'm not sure how requesting that people address you a certain way is "controlling people's speech." My friend John went by Harry his whole childhood. They days, he prefers Jack. I've never felt like he was trying to control my speech - I call him by his preferred name because that's polite. It doesn't affect me one way or another what name he goes by.

No one's calling her a victim. I just said that people were being rude. Because they are.

So call her "Representative McBride" if addressing her as "Ms. McBride" makes you uncomfortable.

I'm aware.
To be fair, it’s legally possible to change one’s name or go by a nickname.

Yes, maybe Representative McBride would have been more appropriate?

Rep. Mary Miller also called Rep, McBride “the gentleman from Delaware, Mr. McBride” earlier this year, as well.
 
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To be fair, it’s legally possible to change one’s name or go by a nickname.
So think of it that way then. She has legally changed her name (and her gender).
 
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So think of it that way then. She has legally changed her name (and her gender).
Biologically, he’s still male. Dressing up as a woman doesn’t make him a woman. From my perspective.
 
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Biologically, he’s still male. Dressing up as a woman doesn’t make him a woman. From my perspective.
That's fine. Her name is still, legally, Ms. Sarah McBride.
 
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If they are uncomfortable they should just say 'Rep. McBride." Hateful, unprofessional communication says more about the speaker than the subject.
 
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