Honest/well meaning advice to some OSAS defenders here.
The following is nothing more than something to help you, and others who do the same, to be credible because as it is, you're giving us no reason at all to believe you. I think there is a reason for that but that's for another post, and you still just barwelu have the benefit of doubt
You completely miss the point, it's not "cherry picking" for you to show us the exact scripture that proves your point and why it does so. For example, If I wanted to prove it takes something other than faith to gets us to heaven, I would quote a specific scripture such as the "faith without works is dead" or, it takes both "faith and works" verses. Then I might follow through and ask you the value of "dead faith"? Or can we get to heaven with only faith?
And of course that always brings on no answer, then anger, but you all need to ask yourselves what you are really angry about when all we did was state verifiable fact. It makes you angry because it's solid proof, just as others have offered, and shooting the messengers with whatever nonsense you can think of will follow That is not a defense, and it only serves to make it look like you have none.
Seems to me you are constantly depending on us seeing what you do by saying/thinking "Go here, read it all, and come to the same conclusion I do" as an excuse. I personally think you are hiding behind that because you can't present specific scripture to make your case, so you pretend "it's in there", when it is not.
On your lack of answering questions directly, as well as the general "proof" you are presenting, instead of actual proof/evidence, you create confusion and simply say "The answer is here among all this" never giving any real answer at all. And don't get me wrong, it isn't just you, Zach, it's the same with others here, always has been. I'm telling you all, that is far from a defense, and the confusion I mentioned is your own in thinking what you do is a defense, you're basically depending on nothing to make your point. As far as credibility, I think you'd be better off not to post at all because what you do post/how you act, tells some of us a story....that you have no real defense.
I'd suggest you all actually defend your "Faith Only" or not.
Then one might say we need to do the same thing/practice what you preach, while it's absolutely clear we have defended our end of this when you all shy away from questioning/a question completely. You stop dead at the question because you know it proves you wrong, and after enough of that, I see it as dead proof you get it but remain in denial. You treat the truth like like a plague, and like a plague is scary, you treat it as such because it threatens to take away easy salvation.
And that my friends is no confusing/evasive "go see this", it's concrete fact that can be verified right here on this thread and others, over and over again.
Romans 5:1 - Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Ephesians 2:8-9 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Romans 3:28 - Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Galatians 2:16 - Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Romans 4:5 - But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
John 5:24 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Galatians 5:6 - For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Galatians 2:21 - I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Romans 11:6 - And if by grace, then [is it] no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if [it be] of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Romans 3:20 - Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.
Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Philippians 3:9 - And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Galatians 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law
John 6:28-29 Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?" Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.
John 3:16 , Acts 16:30-31 , 2 Timothy 1:9 , Acts 2:21 , Romans 10:10 , Titus 2:11-12 , Mark 16:16 , Hebrews 9:28 , Romans 1:16
Shall I keep going?
You wont find one verse that that says we are saved, have salvation or are justified in Gods sight with our works