• The General Mental Health Forum is now a Read Only Forum. As we had two large areas making it difficult for many to find, we decided to combine the Mental Health & the Recovery sections of the forum into Mental Health & Recovery as a whole. Physical Health still remains as it's own area within the entire Recovery area.

    If you are having struggles, need support in a particular area that you aren't finding a specific recovery area forum, you may find the General Struggles forum a great place to post. Any any that is related to emotions, self-esteem, insomnia, anger, relationship dynamics due to mental health and recovery and other issues that don't fit better in another forum would be examples of topics that might go there.

    If you have spiritual issues related to a mental health and recovery issue, please use the Recovery Related Spiritual Advice forum. This forum is designed to be like Christian Advice, only for recovery type of issues. Recovery being like a family in many ways, allows us to support one another together. May you be blessed today and each day.

    Kristen.NewCreation and FreeinChrist

  • Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

  • The rule regarding AI content has been updated. The rule now rules as follows:

    Be sure to credit AI when copying and pasting AI sources. Link to the site of the AI search, just like linking to an article.

I need help...

Status
Not open for further replies.

BrokenAngel77

Member
Aug 9, 2007
6
0
✟22,606.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Hey guys....I'm new here so please forgive me cuz I have no idea what I'm doing, lol. I found this site while searching "Christain treatment for depression" I wasn't really planning on joining any type of a forum like this...but I was getting desperate to find some sort of help. See I have a friend who struggles with depression and cutting and I don't really know where to turn because he won't get help and it's killing me bc he exspects me to be his cure and I'm nowhere near strong enough to do that... I told him I couldn't give him the help he needed but he doesn't wanna listen... he's placing all of his burdens on me and I can't take it anymore bc instead of me building him up, he's tearing me down bc I used to (and still do occationally) struggle with the same thing...and everytime I talk to him he makes me wanna go back to my old life and I don't know what to do cuz I can't talk to my mom about it....she thinks I'm over my state of depression....and if she finds out I'm not, she's gonna scream at me for it...please help me... idk where else to turn at this point...I have no one I can talk 2...I used to share these kinda things with my youth Pastor but then he moved away.... I'm not trying to ask for sympathy, its just I need advice on what to do...:(
 

Jeshu

Bought by His Blood
Site Supporter
Mar 25, 2005
15,422
7,573
65
One of the Greatest Places on Earth.
✟600,248.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
A bit of a difficult story if I read it correctly. Firstly I would set up some kind of boundaries between you and your friend. Clear boundaries about what you can take and what not - none of his heavy stuff - needs to come your way - especially if you are just recovering from depression.


With your mum now that is different. Don't hide your depression - unless you really have to for safety reasons - for it is generally good to share your feelings with loved ones.

:prayer:

Gerry
 
Upvote 0

AWorkInProgress

A fool becoming wise
Jan 18, 2007
2,161
238
Glendale, AZ
✟102,260.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Hey guys....I'm new here so please forgive me cuz I have no idea what I'm doing, lol. I found this site while searching "Christain treatment for depression" I wasn't really planning on joining any type of a forum like this...but I was getting desperate to find some sort of help. See I have a friend who struggles with depression and cutting and I don't really know where to turn because he won't get help and it's killing me bc he exspects me to be his cure and I'm nowhere near strong enough to do that... I told him I couldn't give him the help he needed but he doesn't wanna listen... he's placing all of his burdens on me and I can't take it anymore bc instead of me building him up, he's tearing me down bc I used to (and still do occationally) struggle with the same thing...and everytime I talk to him he makes me wanna go back to my old life and I don't know what to do cuz I can't talk to my mom about it....she thinks I'm over my state of depression....and if she finds out I'm not, she's gonna scream at me for it...please help me... idk where else to turn at this point...I have no one I can talk 2...I used to share these kinda things with my youth Pastor but then he moved away.... I'm not trying to ask for sympathy, its just I need advice on what to do...:(
Yeah...

Depressed person is usually someone living a dysfunctional life. He is living in fear and pride, and he sees you as his cure all. You are right, that is not right. He has to help himself.

Ideas;
Tell Mom the truth and about this situation.
Talk to your church Paster and ask if they can help talk with this friend of yours.
What Jeshu said

BrokenAngel, help him as you can, but you have to keep working on your recovery. Your friend has to admit he has a problem, and if he refuses to help himself. Don't let him drag you down then, for he is just using you and not being a true friend.
 
Upvote 0

cardfan1

Active Member
May 17, 2007
112
15
Tennessee
✟22,803.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
In Relationship
I can sense your frustration - on one hand you care about this guy and really want to help him, and on the other he is taking advantage of you and dragging you down as well.

First off, know that you can't heal anyone. especially not of depression. That is something that has to come within that person and from the Holy Spirit. So don't ever feel like you are failing or even succeeding. It is not your place to heal him.

As far as getting help for him - that is something that you need to decide, but I wouldn't let him use you as his safety net. Is he a Christian? would he go to a church with you? would he go see a counselor? If anything, I would try to direct him to a professional. You said that he wouldn't listen, which I'm sure is very difficult. but somehow you need to get his attention. let him know that you care about him, but also let there be no confusion that you cannot bear his load. try to get him to understand that only Jesus Christ can take that burden from him.

Also, do not let his condition compromise your own health. Turn to the Lord and seek His guidance in all this.
God bless.
 
Upvote 0

BrokenAngel77

Member
Aug 9, 2007
6
0
✟22,606.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Thank's so much for your kind advice....
Brandon lives pretty far away from me so I couldn't bring him to my church...he does have his own church that he regulary attends and he says his Youth Pastor is amazing....yet he's unwilling to confide in him...I told him that if he cut himself one more time that I would tell his Pastor weather he wanted me to or not bc I'm afraid if I wait to long he won't be here anymore..he's away at a fine Arts thing right now but before he left the last thing he said to me was "I wanna die" thats all I ever hear anymore, he won't even tell me why all's he says is "Idk" He started cutting after we broke up... He said I broke his heart and all this other stuff...so I kinda feel like it's my fault for all of this...I wasn't harsh about the breakup, I just told him that I thought we were better off friends cuz I didn't really have feelings for him but I think of him more as a brother...but knowing I didn't love him in the way he wanted me too is really the thing that sent him over the edge.

And as for my own battle with depression... For awhile I had came to grips that things might be bad now, but someday their not always going to be this way...and thats what used to get me through those days when old feelings came back to haunt me...but lately some things my mom have said, along with the whole Brandon thing, has really taken its tole on me...right now I just feel like I want an escape from it all...not Suicide, (although I've had those thoughts before) but I've thought about running away from home a lot...deep down I know its wrong and its probaly not what God would want for me...and it would most likely end in some kind of random tragedy...I've tried telling my mom my feelings..but all I ever hear is "You should be over this by now" Or she'll find some way to use it agiast me she always does...like the day I came home from camp I shared with her one f my most preciouse dreams...and at that time she comforted me and told me that she believed in me and all this other crap..then the vary next day she told me the oppiset and didn't care if I was upset or not...
She think's my reasons for depression are stupid and meaningless...and she's basicly told me that....and it hurts because she used to be the only one I felt close to..now she's become someone I can barly even speak to....I have wild insane dreams, and I trusted her to understand and sopport me but I should have known it would lead to getting burnt...it always does with her.
To be honest, there are some days I wish I wouldn't wake up....I feel like I'm left to drown alone..I know Jesus is there but sometimes it doesn't feel that way...
 
Upvote 0

AWorkInProgress

A fool becoming wise
Jan 18, 2007
2,161
238
Glendale, AZ
✟102,260.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Thank's so much for your kind advice....
Brandon lives pretty far away from me so I couldn't bring him to my church...he does have his own church that he regulary attends and he says his Youth Pastor is amazing....yet he's unwilling to confide in him...I told him that if he cut himself one more time that I would tell his Pastor weather he wanted me to or not bc I'm afraid if I wait to long he won't be here anymore..he's away at a fine Arts thing right now but before he left the last thing he said to me was "I wanna die" thats all I ever hear anymore, he won't even tell me why all's he says is "Idk" He started cutting after we broke up... He said I broke his heart and all this other stuff...so I kinda feel like it's my fault for all of this...I wasn't harsh about the breakup, I just told him that I thought we were better off friends cuz I didn't really have feelings for him but I think of him more as a brother...but knowing I didn't love him in the way he wanted me too is really the thing that sent him over the edge.

And as for my own battle with depression... For awhile I had came to grips that things might be bad now, but someday their not always going to be this way...and thats what used to get me through those days when old feelings came back to haunt me...but lately some things my mom have said, along with the whole Brandon thing, has really taken its tole on me...right now I just feel like I want an escape from it all...not Suicide, (although I've had those thoughts before) but I've thought about running away from home a lot...deep down I know its wrong and its probaly not what God would want for me...and it would most likely end in some kind of random tragedy...I've tried telling my mom my feelings..but all I ever hear is "You should be over this by now" Or she'll find some way to use it agiast me she always does...like the day I came home from camp I shared with her one f my most preciouse dreams...and at that time she comforted me and told me that she believed in me and all this other crap..then the vary next day she told me the oppiset and didn't care if I was upset or not...
She think's my reasons for depression are stupid and meaningless...and she's basicly told me that....and it hurts because she used to be the only one I felt close to..now she's become someone I can barly even speak to....I have wild insane dreams, and I trusted her to understand and sopport me but I should have known it would lead to getting burnt...it always does with her.
To be honest, there are some days I wish I wouldn't wake up....I feel like I'm left to drown alone..I know Jesus is there but sometimes it doesn't feel that way...
ahh.. She does not understand and you are suffering for it. She might be stuck in her own problems, but who knows.

You have to do what is best for you. Seek help and treatment, either from highschool counsellor or any resource you can find. Definately seek help with any youth ministry or paster.

Pray and really spend your time reading the Word of God. Let Jesus' teachings be your own, so you can take your foundation and place it on solid rock.

luke 6:46-49
Building on a Solid Foundation

46 “So why do you keep calling me ‘Lord, Lord!’ when you don’t do what I say? 47 I will show you what it’s like when someone comes to me, listens to my teaching, and then follows it. 48 It is like a person building a house who digs deep and lays the foundation on solid rock. When the floodwaters rise and break against that house, it stands firm because it is well built. 49 But anyone who hears and doesn’t obey is like a person who builds a house without a foundation. When the floods sweep down against that house, it will collapse into a heap of ruins.”

Also I encourage you to study the proverbs. The wisdom found in it's pages will help guide you and keep your path straight.

Lastly, you have lot emotions and thoughts that need healing. I recently have found out how therapeutic the arts can be. Write down a list of anything, even the most foolish thing artistical you like to try. Writing, singing, poem making, picture taking, drawing, guitar playing, or anything you have an itch to try.

This will help you too.

"Creativity is medicine."- Julia Cameron

If you conceptualize launching a project, you will begin to understand the issue of overthinking. Think of your project as "the arrow of desire." Imagine yourself eyeing the bull's-eye, pulling back the bow--and then thinking about it. Worrying about it. Considering whether you are aiming exactly right or whether you should be smidgen higher or lower. your arm begins to get tired. Then your aim begins to get shaky. If you manage to finally shoot the arrow, it does not sail with confidence and strength. You have that in your vacillation about exactly how you should shoot. In short, you have mistaken the beginning something with ending something. ...
...You have denied the process of making art because you are so focused on the product: Will this be a bull's-eye? We forget that intention is what creates direction. If we aim with the eye of our heart--"That I desire to do"-- then we aim truly and well.

Also start your own "Morning Pages" in which you take pen to paper. Just pour out your thoughts that flow in your mind, yes there will be good and bad thoughts. Place it all in your Morning pages.

This will give you a picture of your conciousness. Also allow you to see thoughts little more clearly as well make room for more thoughts.

Try to take walks if possible, where just you and nature. Let the works of our Great Father fill you while you get away from ways of our culture. Which links to scripture.

Phillippians 4:6-8
" 6 Don’t worry about anything; instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need, and thank him for all he has done. 7 Then you will experience God’s peace, which exceeds anything we can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus.
8 And now, dear brothers and sisters, one final thing. Fix your thoughts on what is true, and honorable, and right, and pure, and lovely, and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise. "
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.