I just got fired yesterday for no reason

[gennaoanothen]

QC
I have seen some of your post in the past, and see that you are a mature Christian.
"Yahweh Yireh" (The Lord who Provides) knows your needs.
As you forgive those (boss) that have wronged you, let the Lord speak to their hearts.

 

[Strong in Him]

I have been working at this job for six months and have been doing it very well. I was reading meters for a city in Southern California. I moved all the way across the United States to be with my wife Grace .

Yesterday, my supervisor's supervisor, brought me into his office and fired me. My supervisor disappeared and would not come in the meeting.

He said, "you're not meeting up to expectations."

I said, "What expectations are you talking about?"

He never elaborated. All he said was that if I think about it, it would come to me.

I asked him again, to which he replied the same thing.

Basically, from the first day I worked there, my supervisor has been neutral/negative to me, and turned around every good thing I did into something bad because she does not like me.

I practically begged for my job yesterday. I said, "I'm not going to cry, but I just got married, I just got an apartment, and I just bought a new car. Please let me keep this job." I reminded them of everything I did for them, but still they would not listen.

The supervisor's supervisor had written on the document of termination, "I regret having to take this action." So he knew it was complete b---s---. The lady who was supervising me sabotaged me and lied about me because she does not like me.

So she got what she wanted.

And now I'm fired.

And not only did they do this -- they marked me down as ineligible for rehire. So, not only can I not get a job again with the city of Tustin, when I put the City of Tustin down on a resume, and the prospective employer calls for a reference and says "would you hire him again", they're going to say "no". It wasn't enough for them to take my job from me. They put me down as ineligible for rehire.

I gave them everything. I did everything they ever asked me.

I was dang good at this job. I trained 10 or 12 people in this same job in North Carolina. I know what I'm doing.

I just don't know what to do now.

I was making 22.48 an hour - 46,800 annually.

And I am living in California. I was making it fine with the wage I had.

And now I don't have this job.

And the worst part is that this lady who supervised me is a Christian. She wore "Women Of Faith" sweaters to work and put Bible verses all over her cubicle.

I worked my heart out, and went above and beyond what was asked of me.

I got a lot of compliments, and there weren't mistakes behind my work.

I don't get this. I just don't know what to do now.

This sounds appalling, and I feel so sorry for you.

Surely they can't do this? Isn't there some law or something which says that they have to give reasons for sacking you? And surely they should start off by giving a warning first, maybe followed by dismissal if things don't improve? They can't just sack you because your supervisor, who you say is a Christian and therefore should know better, doesn't like you. That's unfair dismissal.

Surely there is some sort of appeal possible? Do you have unions over there?

Praying for you, and really hoping this works out and you discover the next step - whether complaint or acceptance.

 

[rmw8855]

QC - I am so sorry to hear this

Definitely apply for unemployment. Unless the employer can prove a serious violation of policy, you will probably get unemployment. We fired an employee for stealing one time (caught him with the merchandise in his trunk) and he still got unemployment because we didn't call the police so it "might have been a misunderstanding".

As far as your insurance is concerned the "stimulus package" included a cobra subsidy that means you should only have to pay 35% of the insurance cost for up to 9 months. Be sure to ask your ex-employer about this.

Keep your faith in God and fear not for he is with you. I will be praying that God leads you to a better job soon. All things are possible thru Christ which strengthens you and his favor surrounds you like a shield so the fact that they marked you ineligible for rehire will not hinder your job search.

 

[bluemarkus]

well i´m shure your adrenaline is just pumpin, hehe...
lets see what your next job will be and where your walk is takin you.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

I'm sorry to hear that Steve.

As far as your next applications I would suggest that you pray and ask the Lord how to word the answer to any question on the application. I know I was unjustly fired from a job and I did not want to degrade the company ('cause that never looks good on an app) but they needed to know that calling the previous employer would not necessarily be good. For me, the situation was that a co-worker who did not like me became my boss. So that is what I put down. Fortunately, I had longevity at that company (which I know you did not have here) so when they read "a co-worker who did not like me became my boss and it went downhill from there", most would say, "oh I've been there before" and they'd skip right over it.

As far as what the company can tell prospective employers, I think the only answer they can give (and that could have changed since I lived there) is that "you were employed there". I believe most applications will ask you if it's ok to call the previous employer too. You can mark that as "I would prefer you don't".

Fortunately, you live in a booming area and there are lots of place to apply. Just remember that God is your supplier.

God bless.

Barbara

 

[Always in His Presence]

Being there six months would indicate there is at least one other evaluation on file. Since you were performing above and beyond expectations you should have at least that good evaluation.

Take that with a description of your accomplishments to the labor department file a wrongful termination complaint and contact an attorney.

If they terminated you for no cause, then you will win hands down.

 

[bluemarkus]

if the people there suck, then you don´t need their approval because if your next potential employer trusts their evaluation that means he sucks too so he´s not worth workin for LOL

 

[SUNSTONE123]

Same thing happened to me about 2.5 years ago.
But it turned out to be the best thing because it broke me, and from there God really taught me His ways, and showed me just how much hurt there is in this world and just how much we can make a difference.

There are people out there that have no hope for work, and they literally starve to death.

 

[SharonL]

So sorry QC - don't know what the laws in CA are - but I would take the advice given by Balance. If you never had any consultation prior that anything was wrong that would seem to be legally binding that it was not your work ethics.

In Texas - I think for the first 6 months - they can fire without cause - maybe it is the same there - were you beyond the 6 months or right at the 6 months. The thing that would make me the most angry was that they put down would not rehire - in this economy - that is really cold.

My son in CO had the same thing happen - came in from installing a granite job and was told he did not have a job - wife and 2 five year old sons - there is nothing more shattering than to have your job pulled out from under you.

But for him it was a Blessing - he looked for work for a month - nothing - started working on custom knives which he loves to do - turns out this seems to be his favor from God - pushed him into doing what he loves and making good money at it.
You can see what he is doing Tim Lambkin Custom Knives (NOT ADVERTISING)
Just want you to see what he is doing and this has all been within a month.

I think I remember back a year or so ago - that you and Grace would be going into the ministry of some sort - if this is what you are meant to do - then this may be the opening for you.

Just pray for favor from the Lord to show you where you are suppose to be - sometimes desperation is what it takes to send us in the direction that is where you are meant to be.

Praying for you.

 

[Svt4Him]

oh, just ignore this.

 

[Peaceful Dove]

So sorry QC - don't know what the laws in CA are - but I would take the advice given by Balance. If you never had any consultation prior that anything was wrong that would seem to be legally binding that it was not your work ethics.

In Texas - I think for the first 6 months - they can fire without cause - maybe it is the same there - were you beyond the 6 months or right at the 6 months. The thing that would make me the most angry was that they put down would not rehire - in this economy - that is really cold.

My son in CO had the same thing happen - came in from installing a granite job and was told he did not have a job - wife and 2 five year old sons - there is nothing more shattering than to have your job pulled out from under you.

But for him it was a Blessing - he looked for work for a month - nothing - started working on custom knives which he loves to do - turns out this seems to be his favor from God - pushed him into doing what he loves and making good money at it.
You can see what he is doing Tim Lambkin Custom Knives (NOT ADVERTISING)
Just want you to see what he is doing and this has all been within a month.

I think I remember back a year or so ago - that you and Grace would be going into the ministry of some sort - if this is what you are meant to do - then this may be the opening for you.

Just pray for favor from the Lord to show you where you are suppose to be - sometimes desperation is what it takes to send us in the direction that is where you are meant to be.

Praying for you.

Sharon, very different Labor Laws in CA. As I posted before, it is an "At Will" State and they can let you go for any or no reason whatsoever.
There are some protected areas that might be considered discrimination but they are very specific and spelled out. Some of them are: age (if you are over 40), race, religion, gender, marital status, sexual preferance, etc. You pretty much need to have evidence to back up any charges of discrimination.
Mostly, people are getting let go here in California because of the horrible economy.

 

[jeolmstead]

I'm praying for you guys.

John O.

 

[Tamara224]

I'm very sorry to hear about this and I will be praying for you and Grace.

Remember Joseph... his brothers sold him into slavery and tried to kill him. But in the end Joseph realized that they intended to harm him but God intended it for good. God works all things together for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose. Even this, God will work out for good.

Remember also -

So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
(Matthew 6:31-34)
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The Lord will provide, Stephen.

 

[BenAdam]

QC,

I feel for you brother, but take heart:

1 Peter 2:18 Servants, be submissive to your masters with all fear, not only to the good and gentle, but also to the harsh. 19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God. 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 “ Who committed no sin,
Nor was deceit found in His mouth”;

 

[Questioning Christian]

Maybe your supervisor did what God wanted her to do for His reasons that you now need to discover through trust and obedience.

I understand that your motive was to help me get a larger perspective.

But this is cold comfort to someone who just lost $850.00 a week take-home pay, who just got married, who has the main income in the house, who just bought a car, who has a $1300.00 a month apartment, who wants to take care of his wife and himself.

So, know I do understand you were trying to help me.

But what you said was exactly the wrong thing to say to me.

I am waiting to hear next from the people who are going to tell me

"you had sin in the camp"
"you lacked faith, therefore God took your job"
"you didn't put enough in the offering plate"
"you smote the rock when God told you to speak to the rock"

What really gets me hot is when people try to put some kind of spiritual twist on your pain to try to condemn you and make it out to be your fault somehow, when what really happened is simply that you were done wrong.

I gave my all to this job and put my whole heart into it.

I know that before God, I am innocent, as Daniel was.

I'm not taking blame for this.

My conscience is clear.

 

[Questioning Christian]

Thanks everyone for your encouraging comments.

Keep them coming.

 

[jeolmstead]

All know for sure Stephen is that God loves us, and, that is no small thing.....

John O.

 

[Svt4Him]

I understand that your motive was to help me get a larger perspective.

But this is cold comfort to someone who just lost $850.00 a week take-home pay, who just got married, who has the main income in the house, who just bought a car, who has a $1300.00 a month apartment, who wants to take care of his wife and himself.

So, know I do understand you were trying to help me.

But what you said was exactly the wrong thing to say to me.

I am waiting to hear next from the people who are going to tell me

"you had sin in the camp"
"you lacked faith, therefore God took your job"
"you didn't put enough in the offering plate"
"you smote the rock when God told you to speak to the rock"

What really gets me hot is when people try to put some kind of spiritual twist on your pain to try to condemn you and make it out to be your fault somehow, when what really happened is simply that you were done wrong.

I gave my all to this job and put my whole heart into it.

I know that before God, I am innocent, as Daniel was.

I'm not taking blame for this.

My conscience is clear.

OK, chalk me up to one who is wrong. I have worked in HR and hired and fired a few people. Not one single one of them thought they deserved it, which is really sad. When I lost my job, I took a look in the mirror and thought of the things I did wrong, I didn't point my finger at my boss or make excuses for it. Unless they fired everyone and dissolved the whole department, then it may not be sin, it may not be faith, but don't discount your work ethic or attitude, as that is the most common reason I had to fire people. Perhaps you are the best worker in the world, but obviously something wasn't working and you really need to figure out what that was. I have countless stories of those who didn't deserve to get fired, and countless documents to show why they did. May be different in your case, but I have never ever found a case where there was no blame on the employee.

 

[pgp_protector]

This sounds appalling, and I feel so sorry for you.

Surely they can't do this? Isn't there some law or something which says that they have to give reasons for sacking you? And surely they should start off by giving a warning first, maybe followed by dismissal if things don't improve? They can't just sack you because your supervisor, who you say is a Christian and therefore should know better, doesn't like you. That's unfair dismissal.

Surely there is some sort of appeal possible? Do you have unions over there?

Praying for you, and really hoping this works out and you discover the next step - whether complaint or acceptance.

California is an Employment at Will state, they can Hire / Fire without reason.

So unless their was a contract (Info not provided) they can terminate without cause.
Employment Law in California

 

[jeolmstead]

OK, chalk me up to one who is wrong. I have worked in HR and hired and fired a few people. Not one single one of them thought they deserved it, which is really sad. When I lost my job, I took a look in the mirror and thought of the things I did wrong, I didn't point my finger at my boss or make excuses for it. Unless they fired everyone and dissolved the whole department, then it may not be sin, it may not be faith, but don't discount your work ethic or attitude, as that is the most common reason I had to fire people. Perhaps you are the best worker in the world, but obviously something wasn't working and you really need to figure out what that was. I have countless stories of those who didn't deserve to get fired, and countless documents to show why they did. May be different in your case, but I have never ever found a case where there was no blame on the employee.

Most reputable companies have a stepped progression leading to termination.

(even right to work states)

You get a letter in your file documenting the performance issue. Two or three of these in a specified time leads to termination.

None of us are perfect, we all make mistakes, we all could do better at times. This is generally understood.

There is no justification IMO to blindside someone and then to blackball them as well.

If there is a standard to be met, then, metrics need to be in place to measure that and to support the termination action, if they exist, the employee ought to know and see this documentation.

My HR rep always has a smile on her face and a spring in her step as she helps 250 of us get kicked to the curb.

She knows that both Cat and I have lost our jobs and that we stand to loose everything. If she has one ounce of genuine concern or humanity I’ve yet to see it.

God bless her, I would not trade places with her, I’d rather have the curb.

John O.