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i have to confess something...
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Onwardclimb
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I'm sorry to hear that endure
, but it might help if you keep in mind the scripture that says, "...pride cometh before the fall".
God bless & I'll be praying for you ,
Onwardclimb
, but it might help if you keep in mind the scripture that says, "...pride cometh before the fall". God bless & I'll be praying for you ,Onwardclimb
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I have gone throught the same thing a few times. God grants us abilities and gifts and we take them as our own.
1 Corinthians 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
Don't forget who works through you.
1 Corinthians 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
Don't forget who works through you.
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endure said:
Honestly? Just confessing that and starting this thread tells me there is a humble spirit in there somewhere. You're on the right track.
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thankyou all for your wonderful replies and the encouragement.
i listened to them all, thankyou.
oh and iktca
sure, no problem. hehe.
i listened to them all, thankyou.
oh and iktca
sure, no problem. hehe.
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panterapat
Praise God in all things!
Pride is the original sin of Adam and Eve and pride is the sin of the rebelous angels. Pride is perhaps the root of all sin. But to admit that pride is a problem is a step of humility. Keep going!
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Endure, I believe that in each human, there is pride and I think it healthy to have some pride in oneself but it is to what extent the level of pride is that is worrying.
I can somewhat relate to your prob on pride because on and off, sometimes I get smitten with pride and think extemely highly of myself but then I always try to remember that without God's "YES", I would never be able to get it or become so successful or become the person I am. Try to alwasy remind yourself that God can give you anything can also take that away from you be it material stuff or even a trait/talent that you are proud of. You can have some control over the development of that trait/talent by learning more to enhance it and character build yourself but at the end , if God says NO, your efforts will be futile. So remember who is who here? You are the master or God is...;-)
Humble yourself down as you realise how majestic and how puny and how little we are as compared to God.....and you feel humilty flow through you...Take heart Lee!
I can somewhat relate to your prob on pride because on and off, sometimes I get smitten with pride and think extemely highly of myself but then I always try to remember that without God's "YES", I would never be able to get it or become so successful or become the person I am. Try to alwasy remind yourself that God can give you anything can also take that away from you be it material stuff or even a trait/talent that you are proud of. You can have some control over the development of that trait/talent by learning more to enhance it and character build yourself but at the end , if God says NO, your efforts will be futile. So remember who is who here? You are the master or God is...;-)
Humble yourself down as you realise how majestic and how puny and how little we are as compared to God.....and you feel humilty flow through you...Take heart Lee!
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Yup, I fell into pride once also. I used to skateboard a lot and I got very good at it. But about 2 years into it the day before I turned in my video in hopes of sponsorship (this happened almost 3 years ago now) I fell and broke my arm on a half-pipe and couldn't skate for about five months. "Pride" literally did "cometh before the fall". Now that I look back I thank God for it, otherwise I may not have found Him better and started a much better relationship with Him. I had always been a catholic but never really learned about the Law. I guess God gave me a different path because ironically, God has given me a great talent with computers which I love.
Pride can mess you up, now I always try to think I'm doing this (whether it be skating a little every once in a while or snowboarding, building a computer, etc) to have fun and to fulfill taking the path God has chosen for me. Just try saying to yourself, "This is for fun and I am using the wonderful talent you have given me Lord, I do not intend to look impressive to people." In other words, have pride for God and noone else. This has helped me a lot and I'm still into computers and skate sometimes purely for fun (not worried about being sponsored anymore). Since I have found God dealing with life is most definitely not easy but things have worked out nicely and I would never want to go back to how I used to be. I may even start a business sometime if God wills it. I would love that...but only if God would love it to.
I hope this has helped. Father, help endure to find you even better, erase his/her pride for worldly things and help her to only share pride in loving/following You. In Your name Lord, Amen.
Pride can mess you up, now I always try to think I'm doing this (whether it be skating a little every once in a while or snowboarding, building a computer, etc) to have fun and to fulfill taking the path God has chosen for me. Just try saying to yourself, "This is for fun and I am using the wonderful talent you have given me Lord, I do not intend to look impressive to people." In other words, have pride for God and noone else. This has helped me a lot and I'm still into computers and skate sometimes purely for fun (not worried about being sponsored anymore). Since I have found God dealing with life is most definitely not easy but things have worked out nicely and I would never want to go back to how I used to be. I may even start a business sometime if God wills it. I would love that...but only if God would love it to.
I hope this has helped. Father, help endure to find you even better, erase his/her pride for worldly things and help her to only share pride in loving/following You. In Your name Lord, Amen.
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thankyou all.
im sorry my last reply was so unpersonal, please forgive me. you took the time to talk to me, i should take the time to talk to you all as well.
CFOCDUDE
thats so true, i am the same way a bit, but it isnt with skating its with knowledge and gifts for the ministry. and i tend to forget and get blinded from the truth that if i can minister well, then its God doing it and not me, so i am a theif and steal his credit. and begin to be puffed up and look down on other people who dont fit my mold and dont add to me. and im always comparing myself to others, when the bible said in one place that the only reason to do that is if you envy. if i selfishly desire something. and that is credit, glory and appreciation and praise. just...pride.
thankyou for your time, your reply and your prayer. i know i cant make it alone, thankyou for being there for me when i needed help brother.
Godbless you.
dear Carnation,
i am so glad to see you doing well, and to see you in the position to minister.
and i tell you that i appreciate what you said, and i do not look down on it becuase of some self assumed superiority because of my past trying to help you.
yeah, and thankyou for helping me see that pride is diffrent than many things, its one of those things that gets in us all, and its not one of those things that can be just totally defeated, but its a thing that has to be controlled, and we will constantly be in the struggle with for the rest of our lives. it seems that pride is something that gotten so migled with us that it becomes a part of us and it seems like it its actually a part of us.
but like when my bible college teacher began to teach on pride and all the diffrent symptoms that proved pride was present....man.... in a way it was really depressing... i thought i had recently got a handle on pride, and now God showed me another symptom of it in myself, and now i feel depressed again, becuase part of me begins to beleive i will never overcome pride.
pride has soooo many diffrent facets and faces, it almost seems to be infinite in its nature, when you really begin to see it, it can be terrifying how big it can be, and never even know its there.
i went to my bed and cried, becuase i was so disturbed at the evil of the thing i had done...and i never even knew what i was doing.
i tried to minister to someone and help them, and wrote out this long letter trying to reach out to them and do something for them and the person totally didnt receive it at all... it just didnt work, nothing i said meant anything. and i wrote another one to her, and she began to be angry at me, when i was just reaching out to her....
but later God showed me i i wasnt trying to help her as much as i thought it was....
i was using her wound and sickness, as a stage for my knowledge and gift.
and i never even knew it!
and i began to realise, thats why i wasnt willing to just say a few sentences, i had to write a 2 or 3 page letter, becuase it wasnt about her, it was about me and showing how much i knew!
BUT I DIDNT KNOW THATS WHAT I WAS DOING! I DIDNT KNOW I WAS SO FULL OF PRIDE!
and i cried and cried and was so crushed, because i didnt know i had it in me to be so selfish.... and i really hurt me and pushed her away...
man i hope shes alright...
man, the things we dont know about ourselves.
we dont even know ourselves.
i really didnt know, that sometimes the diffrence between a few words and page of words is nothing but filthy pride.
thankyou so much for caring for me and reaching out to me and being there for me, i really need you. thankyou. i know i didnt reply to everything you said, but i do appreciate it. thankyou so very much.
Godbless you.
panterapat
that so true, pride goes so far and is at the root of so many things, well, thankyou for your encouragement, that is a good thing to know, that i am atleast making progress.
sorry for saying so little, i appreciate your caring for me.
Godbless.
iktca
yeah, i think we all have this problem to an extent, like moses claimed he was the most humble man of all. he was the MOST humble...he didnt say he WAS humble...
pride is something we all struggle with whether we see it or not.
its good to know im not alone, thankyou for your care.
Godbless.
OracleX
well im glad to here there are people who will stoop to say that they were no diffrent at one time...
yes, thats a good truth to remember. i will strive to never forget that.
THANKYOU!
Godbless.
Onwardclimb
ya know i appreciate your heart that cares enough about me to not only try to encourage me but tell me the truth also and warn me of future failure, that takes boldness but i think most of all love that presses through fear of being misunderstood, and i do understand.thankyou for that.
Godbless.
Msanne
thankyou for your encouragement, its wonderful how kind words can sooth and refresh, thankyou for having such a lovely sweet heart about you that is willing to reach out to me and see the goodness inside me, even though its so corroded and covered with mess. that takes love that is blind to mistakes but it is only concerned with a persons well being, thankyou i needed that.
Godbless you.
thanyou all for caring enough to take the time to reach out and labor on my behalf, thankyou, i really do appreciate it will not act like it didnt need it or simply not care. i am grateful to you all.
Lee.
im sorry my last reply was so unpersonal, please forgive me. you took the time to talk to me, i should take the time to talk to you all as well.
CFOCDUDE
thats so true, i am the same way a bit, but it isnt with skating its with knowledge and gifts for the ministry. and i tend to forget and get blinded from the truth that if i can minister well, then its God doing it and not me, so i am a theif and steal his credit. and begin to be puffed up and look down on other people who dont fit my mold and dont add to me. and im always comparing myself to others, when the bible said in one place that the only reason to do that is if you envy. if i selfishly desire something. and that is credit, glory and appreciation and praise. just...pride.
thankyou for your time, your reply and your prayer. i know i cant make it alone, thankyou for being there for me when i needed help brother.
Godbless you.
dear Carnation,
i am so glad to see you doing well, and to see you in the position to minister.
and i tell you that i appreciate what you said, and i do not look down on it becuase of some self assumed superiority because of my past trying to help you.
yeah, and thankyou for helping me see that pride is diffrent than many things, its one of those things that gets in us all, and its not one of those things that can be just totally defeated, but its a thing that has to be controlled, and we will constantly be in the struggle with for the rest of our lives. it seems that pride is something that gotten so migled with us that it becomes a part of us and it seems like it its actually a part of us.
but like when my bible college teacher began to teach on pride and all the diffrent symptoms that proved pride was present....man.... in a way it was really depressing... i thought i had recently got a handle on pride, and now God showed me another symptom of it in myself, and now i feel depressed again, becuase part of me begins to beleive i will never overcome pride.
pride has soooo many diffrent facets and faces, it almost seems to be infinite in its nature, when you really begin to see it, it can be terrifying how big it can be, and never even know its there.
i went to my bed and cried, becuase i was so disturbed at the evil of the thing i had done...and i never even knew what i was doing.
i tried to minister to someone and help them, and wrote out this long letter trying to reach out to them and do something for them and the person totally didnt receive it at all... it just didnt work, nothing i said meant anything. and i wrote another one to her, and she began to be angry at me, when i was just reaching out to her....
but later God showed me i i wasnt trying to help her as much as i thought it was....
i was using her wound and sickness, as a stage for my knowledge and gift.
and i never even knew it!
and i began to realise, thats why i wasnt willing to just say a few sentences, i had to write a 2 or 3 page letter, becuase it wasnt about her, it was about me and showing how much i knew!
BUT I DIDNT KNOW THATS WHAT I WAS DOING! I DIDNT KNOW I WAS SO FULL OF PRIDE!
and i cried and cried and was so crushed, because i didnt know i had it in me to be so selfish....
and i really hurt me and pushed her away...man i hope shes alright...
man, the things we dont know about ourselves.
we dont even know ourselves.
i really didnt know, that sometimes the diffrence between a few words and page of words is nothing but filthy pride.
thankyou so much for caring for me and reaching out to me and being there for me, i really need you. thankyou. i know i didnt reply to everything you said, but i do appreciate it. thankyou so very much.
Godbless you.
panterapat
that so true, pride goes so far and is at the root of so many things, well, thankyou for your encouragement, that is a good thing to know, that i am atleast making progress.
sorry for saying so little, i appreciate your caring for me.
Godbless.
iktca
yeah, i think we all have this problem to an extent, like moses claimed he was the most humble man of all. he was the MOST humble...he didnt say he WAS humble...
pride is something we all struggle with whether we see it or not.
its good to know im not alone, thankyou for your care.
Godbless.
OracleX
well im glad to here there are people who will stoop to say that they were no diffrent at one time...
yes, thats a good truth to remember. i will strive to never forget that.
THANKYOU!
Godbless.
Onwardclimb
ya know i appreciate your heart that cares enough about me to not only try to encourage me but tell me the truth also and warn me of future failure, that takes boldness but i think most of all love that presses through fear of being misunderstood, and i do understand.thankyou for that.
Godbless.
Msanne
thankyou for your encouragement, its wonderful how kind words can sooth and refresh, thankyou for having such a lovely sweet heart about you that is willing to reach out to me and see the goodness inside me, even though its so corroded and covered with mess. that takes love that is blind to mistakes but it is only concerned with a persons well being, thankyou i needed that.
Godbless you.
thanyou all for caring enough to take the time to reach out and labor on my behalf, thankyou, i really do appreciate it will not act like it didnt need it or simply not care. i am grateful to you all.
Lee.
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carnation
im sorry, i shouldnt have said all that. it was my time to be ministered to and not try to minister, but i wasnt willing to just be quiet, i had to again show what i know...
i am sorry, i am still struggling with pride.
im sorry, me saying so much was pride. i should have just said thankyou and received what you said...
i mean, part of me wanted to stand and be proud that i could be humble enough to confess that i was full of pride... (yeah i confessed it, look at me im so humble!) pride again....
im sorry, i shouldnt have said all that. it was my time to be ministered to and not try to minister, but i wasnt willing to just be quiet, i had to again show what i know...
i am sorry, i am still struggling with pride.
im sorry, me saying so much was pride. i should have just said thankyou and received what you said...
i mean, part of me wanted to stand and be proud that i could be humble enough to confess that i was full of pride... (yeah i confessed it, look at me im so humble!) pride again....
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looksgood
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LOL, your not the only one who has to deal with pride. This like all things is just a part of the sin that dwels in the flesh. It like all the others are common and are to be fought till death. Some battles we win, some we loose.
Let me tell you of how I had been dealt with over my pride. You see, when I got saved I got saved by actualy HEARING the still small voice of God. And in 3 years time He opend the scriptures to me. I also began to minister to others, even in the church. Now ministering is good, but when it is in the spirit of pride it is no good at all. I began to think I knew more than ALL those around me. And when I would say something I noticed no one repeted it. But when someone else said something it was repeted. Because of my pride I became angry at that. I thought, I should have SOME kinda credit! LOL Man I see how foolish that was now.
I should have kept silent. And when others spoke I should have comended them rather than wish I had said what they did. But no matter...my time came. You see God broke me. I went through about 3 years with no scripture being opend to me, and nothing in prayer. God hid Himself from me. In that time I became as vile as ever. I fell into deep sin. So much so that the fear of men came over me, because I knew if anyone found out what I was doing I would not be shown mercy.
In that time I found out that I wasn't as great as I thought. I forgot most every scripture and my ability dwindled. Till finaly I had to realise that I could really do nothing. When I came out of that broken as I was, I learned to be happy with the spirit of God speaking. If it came from me or not.
Some times we may need to be broken in this way. But I think it is better to realise we don't know it all. It is better to LOVE others and seek for THEM to be exaulted. That is what love does. We can realise we know some things. But we would do well to believe others know more.
Love ya
Let me tell you of how I had been dealt with over my pride. You see, when I got saved I got saved by actualy HEARING the still small voice of God. And in 3 years time He opend the scriptures to me. I also began to minister to others, even in the church. Now ministering is good, but when it is in the spirit of pride it is no good at all. I began to think I knew more than ALL those around me. And when I would say something I noticed no one repeted it. But when someone else said something it was repeted. Because of my pride I became angry at that. I thought, I should have SOME kinda credit! LOL Man I see how foolish that was now.
I should have kept silent. And when others spoke I should have comended them rather than wish I had said what they did. But no matter...my time came. You see God broke me. I went through about 3 years with no scripture being opend to me, and nothing in prayer. God hid Himself from me. In that time I became as vile as ever. I fell into deep sin. So much so that the fear of men came over me, because I knew if anyone found out what I was doing I would not be shown mercy.
In that time I found out that I wasn't as great as I thought. I forgot most every scripture and my ability dwindled. Till finaly I had to realise that I could really do nothing. When I came out of that broken as I was, I learned to be happy with the spirit of God speaking. If it came from me or not.
Some times we may need to be broken in this way. But I think it is better to realise we don't know it all. It is better to LOVE others and seek for THEM to be exaulted. That is what love does. We can realise we know some things. But we would do well to believe others know more.
Love ya
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My dearest endure, u do not need to say sorry that many times, I understd how u feel right now but I thought your word you initially wrote, was it to show me that u know a lot? I could not see it that way, in fact I saw it more of a confession from a person in great guilt. I know that sometimes, I also do talk and try to help like as if I wanted to show off and get people to think well of me and stuff like that but just as I was taught, u need to discipline yourself to bring up the red light and stop yourself from continuing to do those stuff if you feel that ur motives were not righteous, and then readjust ur thinking to align it with what u know that God wants, and go on with life. Try not to let guilt hinder ur progress as a person and as a Christian as well. Tell God how u feel and then make it a pt to alert urself and also remember to always explore ur motives first before most things and this might help.....
It's okay, endure......u r not alone!
It's okay, endure......u r not alone!
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I am sorry endure, what I meant was that your initial posting in this thread to me I interpreted mroe of a confession rather than to show me how much u knew...So don't worry and do not be too hard on urself, can?
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panterapat
no, not really, but many people think they are humble and are proud of it.
or have a level of humility and are proud of it, though that may not be humility at all.
i dont know.
carnation
well in a way it was, to show how much i knew or to show how i could talk.
just be honest.... sorry.
yes, yesterday God showed me something ive never really known, that grace justifies me. and he is the propitiation for my sins. ive never understood this in all my life, becuase i dont beleive that we must always sin or that christians have to be sinning and people can take adavantage of grace and not strive to be holy, and ive always ran from that, but in the process ran away from grace aswell.
thankyou carnation, for being there for me and showing how much you care.
Lee.
no, not really, but many people think they are humble and are proud of it.
or have a level of humility and are proud of it, though that may not be humility at all.
i dont know.
carnation
well in a way it was, to show how much i knew or to show how i could talk.
just be honest.... sorry.
yes, yesterday God showed me something ive never really known, that grace justifies me. and he is the propitiation for my sins. ive never understood this in all my life, becuase i dont beleive that we must always sin or that christians have to be sinning and people can take adavantage of grace and not strive to be holy, and ive always ran from that, but in the process ran away from grace aswell.
thankyou carnation, for being there for me and showing how much you care.
Lee.
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seangoh
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hi endure, i struggle with the same issue too-pride. In fact, i struggle with a whole bunch of other issues. You're luck you seem to have only one problem..lol.
I think you said you wanted to be a minister when you grow older right? Probably your talking alot is training for you now. And yes, you are the most "talkative" person i know in this forum. I can't believe how you can write so much sometimes. But on the other hand, it can be a good thing coz it's training for you you see.
I think you said you wanted to be a minister when you grow older right? Probably your talking alot is training for you now. And yes, you are the most "talkative" person i know in this forum. I can't believe how you can write so much sometimes. But on the other hand, it can be a good thing coz it's training for you you see.
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seangoh
well i think everyone alive struggles with it so...
me? just one problem?....man you just dont know.
yes i want to be a minister of the Lord.
yes me speaking is practice and showing myself faithful, but when i know i ought not be saying something or that my saying something is pointless...and i dont stop, it really is pride.
thanks for your encouragement, but it really was pride.
there are times to write alot, and then times not too.
Godbless you,
Lee.
well i think everyone alive struggles with it so...
me? just one problem?....man you just dont know.
yes i want to be a minister of the Lord.
yes me speaking is practice and showing myself faithful, but when i know i ought not be saying something or that my saying something is pointless...and i dont stop, it really is pride.
thanks for your encouragement, but it really was pride.
there are times to write alot, and then times not too.
Godbless you,
Lee.
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i really dont know if i am.
i have been through 2 years of bible college, and i thank God for my pastors and mentors and i know id be nothing without them.
but i really dont know if going back to school at all. if the Lord wills then so be it.
but presently God is moving me into a level of ministry and i dont see schooling coming in the near future. hes talking to me and leading to do several things, but schooling hasnt been one of them.
but make no mistake...i really do love schools and mentors, and if it is the will of God for a person to attend school presently, then by all means I SAY GO!
but honestly to resay all that in a more honest way...i really dont think i need to and i really dont think God has that for me. not becuase i know it all already, but the Lord is providing for my ministry and ability in a diffrent way.
Lee.
i have been through 2 years of bible college, and i thank God for my pastors and mentors and i know id be nothing without them.
but i really dont know if going back to school at all. if the Lord wills then so be it.
but presently God is moving me into a level of ministry and i dont see schooling coming in the near future. hes talking to me and leading to do several things, but schooling hasnt been one of them.
but make no mistake...i really do love schools and mentors, and if it is the will of God for a person to attend school presently, then by all means I SAY GO!
but honestly to resay all that in a more honest way...i really dont think i need to and i really dont think God has that for me. not becuase i know it all already, but the Lord is providing for my ministry and ability in a diffrent way.
Lee.
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