i have to confess something...

[carnation]

Endure, I am honest with you.....I thought of it more of a confession of a person in total guilt and pain, I am not sure whether there was this tiny bit of me which thought of you wanting to show off, I always saw of whatever u wrote to be that u really cared and that really touched me, believe me.
But who is better to be the Judge of our motives in all our actions? Of coz God! I am sure that u have felt this way because u have done what u did in questioning ur motives which is good, well, as long as u are aware of it, confessed to God, repent and am doing something abt it, then just try to move on being careful and paying utmost attention to ur red light alert flashes..;-)...
It's great to know that u and God share such close relationship....

 

[endure]

carnation
thankyou very much for your kind words, and your encouragement.
it is very appreciated.
we do need more people like yourself who see the good in everyone.
i appreciate you.

Lee.

 

[paul becke]

What your other kind respondents said, Endure, but also it seems to me that is possible that your pride is actually based on a misunderstanding. Modesty is an attractive quality in a person, but it is not the same as humility.

If you understand humility, I think that, for a sensitive Chrisitian, as you appear to be, the modesty that you commendably covet must surely follow. But as regards humility, itself, it is said to be simply the recognition of our limitations; the chief one of which, is that *every* gift, talent, skill, etc., we have is a gift of God. Even our ability to practice and hone these skills. (in fact, we know from scripture that every good thing comes from God, don't we?).

I think maybe modesty would include a love of others that makes us pleased when God makes us aware that we are not the only hot-shots in his eyes; just to be "another Christ" makes all of us hot-shots in the Father's eyes, first-born sons, only-begottens of the Father, and we will all have been given special gifts.

What human gift is greater than another, if they are all gifts of God? Well, of course we know there is the supernatural gift that is the mother of all other gifts and virtues: self-giving love. But what could be more characteristically a gift from God, anyway? And by definition the one we would least like to have an exclusive right to, or to compete in for the wrong reasons?

I don't believe, for example, that in the next life, Einstein, assuming he is among the elect, will have any advantage, in terms of his understanding of the physical universe, over someone who is severely mentally retarded in this life. Why would he, when it is spiritual understanding that counts with God, our understanding of what is now eternal and presently invisible that counts with him?

The knowledge of the physical universe of even the greatest scientists is scarcely likely to impress its Creator, particularly since it would inevitably be immeasurably limited, and its subject matter so base and rudimentary, in comparison with "what no eye has seen, no hear had heard, what is beyond the mind of man to conceive".

 

[endure]

i dont know for sure if i really understood what you were trying to say.

i understand my limitations and know that i am not anything without God.
i think humility is simply a full acceptance of the truth. which isnt debasing yourself but it isnt lifting yourself up either, because you know the truth about yourself.

but i use people, and think only of myself and my pleasures sometime.
that surely is pride, i beleive i have the right to do that, thats pride.
i dont always recognise or accept the limitations on me, the truths about me.

and it runs so deep,
pride is why i interrupt people, and dont look them in the face when they talk.
pride is why i can read a persons post and not really even read it but scan over it and reply to it without really reading it.
pride is why i am so shy and cowardly sometimes.
pride is why dont always seek the Lord.
so many many things, and when you really begin to recognise the symptoms, you recognise its all over you...
pride is why i get angry with people.
pride is why i argue.

 

[paul becke]

No, actually, endure, I think any pride you exhibit is in agonising over what makes you human, as if these foibles and plain human characteristics are unworthy of you; as if you think you should have been a newly-minted saint from the day of your birth. But hey, its a big thing to know yourself to that extent, anyway. And who knows himself fully? No-one.

 

[DMX]

Honestly? Just confessing that and starting this thread tells me there is a humble spirit in there somewhere. You're on the right track.

Amen! God bless.

 

[Follower of Christ]

i am still struggling with pride, and being full of myself.

You know, including myself, I dont know of a single person who doesnt struggle with this.

Myself, I always wonder about folks who say they dont.

Youre just like the rest of us guy...we're all strugglin with self.
Its part of the game.

Cool thing is, you recognise it (I wonder about folks who dont), which means you have the best tool to fix it.......knowledge......and obviously if you say your struggling with it, then the desire to fix it is there.

You may never overcome self......honestly I dont think its possible to completely overcome it (another thing I dont buy).

just get up everyday, decide your gonna work on it and just do your best.


good luck brother

 

[endure]

paul becke
good point.
sorry, not much to say...
thanks for putting so much time into me.
Godbless you.

everyone else,
thankyou so much for your encouragement and care and help, i really wasnt beating myself up or anything, its just that the bible says be holy, and when im not, when i sin, i must repent of this and go on to better things.
me knowing that everyone else does the same thing, doesnt really do alot for me.
its just my heart of servanthood unto God that pushes me, not a desire to be as good a christian as the rest of the christians or just be seen as justified in his sight.
im doing great! praise God.
and thankyou.

Godbless you all.
Lee.