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I believe it is wrong to support divisions from being offended by others perhaps in churches introducing false teachings as though the opinion of some of those who sit in position is truth so I will not because it is not helpful and I should show love and not promote divisions knowing God is a just judge and He will not judge people who do not know. I believe though the truth is only in the bible and should be followed fully how one understands it if one is fully sure if not according to what is safe such as to believe in baptism and communion too if one believes it may be required to be sure and leave judgement to God if your understanding is wrong.
 
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I think as one can not be sure it is best to join church though I think bible may be sufficient but if you are worried that you are not sure of truth that you do not know if God accepts person who comes to Him if you are worried you are not sure you are doing His will perfectly that He is not accepting you to make you perfect and one thinks he needs to go to church to know to do His will to be perfect it is best and safe to go to church to trust it. I will therefore join Orthodox Church and go to Catholic Church to see if it can prove the truth.

It is only required to seek to join church then you will be accepted if you do not get opportunity but if one always has opportunity one must. As long as person is alive and did not die if he can not do anything else his faith alone in church is required because one would not get opportunity to do anything else.
 
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I know God is just and I trust He won’t judge anyone who seeked to follow Him who did not believe he needed to be baptized if he was convinced by others it is not important or may not be willing as others did not tell them before not to make stumbling blocks to turn people away from thinking it unjust to require if it had not been preached before that it is required and he believes baptism of Spirit is most important and it is unjust for it to be required if it can not be proven. If others are worried they can be baptized and have communion I am going to focus on my commitment to Jesus I believe the whole truth is in Him if others are worried they don’t have whole truth or know the full way they can join any church if they think it will help them.
 
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The reason I thought to teach one should seek to make sure one is baptised is because I followed the ministry of David platt and I thought he is commited but I know he taught people need to be baptised and I thought I should follow and leave judgement to God I wanted to show him I am commited but I believe God wants me to trust His justice not to make divisions and just seek to be commited the same.
 
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As I seen this video which says Russia knows we are facing the biggest conspiracy and mass genocide to prepare the anti-Christ and build his new satanic regime I got worried for others and myself and thought I should find church but I think I should not let them make fear and I believe I can trust God as He is just that He helps all who cling to Him and I should focus on sticking close to Jesus to be His disciple and growing. If others are worried they can join any church they think they may need.
 
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I read book Rachels tears it was really such eye opening I bought it from church bookstore while studying at university in early years. I had read it before but I thought person perhaps could not understand struggles people go through but it shows she is really understanding and wise.

I thought to say what is in below paragraph but the mark of true Christian belief is to accept all other Christians even if they believe differently if they are commited so I will not follow it. You can believe differently but if that makes one think he has excuse not to seek to preach about Jesus however he believes one is not following Christ and to try to fight work of others and not support may be necessary as it could help even the cause of Christianity for his beliefs. I do not believe it is right to say you have to follow it because people may really not know what they were taught is not the truth because though it should be evident from scripture if they searched yet one could not be sure they understand scripture properly and believed the church interpretation but they were commited to Jesus how they believed though some may not be but they need to be:

The book got me thinking it opened my eyes to understand people indeed have to choose between love of God and love of others if they followed or follow the world for not everyone is really as they seem commited to Jesus some hide behind religion because they don’t want to be commited people wear black robes or even white robes because they believe religion is path to God to be holy as though they can climb to God by their works and not their only hope is Jesus that any one can come because of Him so we only know if you teach anyone can be saved because of Him that one is accepted.

People have to accept that way we don’t know about any religious form of Christianity people must accept other believers or they don’t love Jesus. We don’t know if others are saved you have to leave judgement to God. You may need to come out of such religious ways which could be a broad road to destruction.

I would think if one accepted other believers they may be saved it shows they love Jesus and know Him but I don’t know if you can practice another path in Christianity to believe it is acceptable to take part in you have to leave judgement to God. I suppose it could be ok if you do not accept such beliefs of exclusivity but it does not seem some do and if you claim church is the path to salvation that you need it or that without it others could still be saved but not as surely it shows you do not.

If any one comes to Me says Jesus and is not ready to forsake father mother wife brothers and sisters if they do not follow Him they are unworthy of Him.
 
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I see the world is getting dark that people are pretending interest in church to seek to control world and churches are believing it as sign that it is truth and that it should please world and judge other believers as world is wanting to make them think it is solution but I believe that is sign it is not truth and I believe it is right now to trust only Jesus and leave judgement to God for other Christians as I believe the world is getting darker being prepared to try to lead others to believe they need to start defending faith and rejecting other people as Christian and convincing people it is right but they are really trying to lead others into control of new world order.

I believe as we have been warned it could happen and that others believe there is a rapture and that we could escape through it and we are close to it almost being midnight we should escape to trust only Jesus and leave judgement to other Christians to God. It just seems people may not expect Him to come at midnight because He delayed as though He is not coming soon that you may feel He delayed enough to be considered midnight but it is not up to our feeling as He said He can come at any time in the evening at midnight or in morning so even if we change our mind to feel that still more needs to happen that it is not midnight it may be wrong and He may come sooner so that He comes earlier at evening which is feeling things are changing or in morning when you feel now everything is same nothing happened.

I think it is safe to follow only how one thinks bible may teach to be baptised and to have communion incase but it could be as others say you don’t need it.
 
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I am not sure if people need to keep the sabbath. Paul said let no one judge you regarding sabbaths which are a shadow and said below one man esteems one day special and one every day alike let each be fully convinced in his own mind so it may be it is not important or it could be only that you should not judge them while they do not know when they are fully convinced because they may be fully convinced and never have known or been able to see to be convinced of truth but they still fully believed differently but once you know you should obey.

The sabbaths could be other days but the sabbath is one of moral 10 commandments that perhaps people should keep I don’t know for sure but people should keep it and leave judgement to God. Even if sabbath is not required it says you should not judge those who think to keep it.

The sabbath was made for man and not man for sabbath so to do work you need to do if person needs help is ok.

Paul said O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified?

And You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain.

but that is to be justified by all the laws which we don’t keep now but the sabbath is one of 10 commandments which is moral commandment as it carries blessing as God blessed it to be a day that God perhaps uses to sanctify person not commandments God just required under the old which we know no one could perfectly keep all. But they were given to show them they can not be justified to keep all of them as no one before could keep them all to require it all to be justified. They were just covered for disobedience to allow for some sins not to punish because they looked forward to messiah sacrifice which was resembled through their sacrifices but Jesus fulfilled the law so that even small commandments of disobedience would not lead to punishment as according to law many would die even for slightest breaking of law if it was punishable. But the bible says He would make a new covenant and no more remember their sins.

Romans 14:5-6
5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it
 
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I believe it is wrong to judge to support division it does not please God for sake of gospel one should not but accept others.

I also believe God is just and that He would not require baptism and communion as people could not have known for sure it’s necessity and believe baptism of Spirit is most important that others convinced them and they believe it is right that it is not required as it would not be fair and God is fair and they should not make divisions and I believe it is all that is important because God will judge only if person loved Him and wanted to follow Him. If others are worried they can be baptized and have communion but I believe God is just.
 
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I don’t believe sabbath is required even 10 commandments are ofcourse important as they are moral but they are given to Jews at that time so included sabbath keeping. But it is still a day of the Lord I think maybe that is why Paul said not to judge as they are convinced in mind it is still a special day that has blessing it can sanctify one he may have had that in mind but I think likely because some conscience are weak such as thinking you can only eat vegetables they think it is required so we should not judge.

we are not justified by works by having to keep a law always for who does and why are they some not punished for breaking the law most of their life but some die. And person can be saved to call on Lord even he did not know he needs to keep the sabbath he did not research it and no one told him it seems he is not blamed not to research it.

But since we know now if we have doubts we should keep sabbath if some doubt and leave judgement to God.

Also the bible says you did not see a form of the Lord so not to make idols this means because people may make a false image of what Lord is not really like and not to put much attention on the external to get false impression but if icons are not used to worship to worship just His image they are just to represent characteristics He revealed to us as He came if we do not worship the image for its appearance as a replacement for relationship with God in Spirit it is ok I believe if it is not used to get an impression of the Lord that He is not in bible and to think through image to get impression one can be casual with Him that He does not care if you are seeking to follow Him and know Him as far as you give honour to Him to do so by honouring His image.
 
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Acts 15:18-21
18 “Known to God from eternity are all His works. 19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, 20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.

This shows keeping Sabbath is not required but I think it should be kept as it was still blessed that it could be a day that God blesses to sanctify one.
 
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I think things could get very bad and since I can not know what will happen in future that I could be unprepared for something and not have opportunity to repent and incase I can find truth to be more helpful because I am not sure if God does or does not support church I think it is best for me to join church until the Lord fully convinces me He did not make one church or a church that is an organisation. I think I should go to Orthodox Church incase it teaches truth and I think people should go to Catholic Church if it convinces the truth surely to join it but if it does not convince truth I don’t think one needs to join it and I will not.
 
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I believed I should trust Jesus and follow Him but since others may doubt me and want to know truth if I am wrong and my beliefs could be challenged as though what I believe is not true and if others would not take me seriously I will accept that I could be wrong to accept church to go to Orthodox Church and go to Catholic Church if it can prove.
 
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I am thankful for all the love and support of pastors and people on this forum who always seek to encourage and show care. I don’t deserve all their labour on my behalf. The bible says to acknowledge those who labour among you and also esteem them highly for work on your behalf I know I grieve them because I don’t follow all what they believe is right if they believe only their way is acceptable which I believe is wrong as I do not believe it is true if it says to judge others who don’t know and because I do not know if I should trust them fully for others sake as I feel I must follow church to be sure unless God shows me.
 
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I think because I never experienced Catholic Church I should join it to accept it but just to experience it to see if I believe God is in it working in it showing it is right I would not stay to trust it if not because I was born orthodox if I don’t know for sure God is in it I will stop believing and be orthodox maybe it will show truth but seek God maybe God will reveal to me differently.
 
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I am convinced now I very much need to focus on God and it is clear that the truth is just in the bible as even not even everyone gets the chance to find the truth in the church but some would die without a chance but the church says you need to accept the true church to have sought to join it but you can’t know definitely what is true one unless perhaps if you join it you risk not knowing which needs to partake of it first but not all will get a chance I will therefore focus on my commitment to Jesus.
 
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I believe we need to really practice what the bible teaches and show love to others and for myself I should not make divisions as I do not believe it. I believe God is just and we Christians need to pursue peace with all to not show hate to enemies to seek unity also if we don’t really believe such divisive doctrines between Christians are right according to bible. I trust God that no baptism or communion is required as God is just but that I should pursue peace with all to fellowship with others to learn and to teach to others to help others.
 
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I decided it is best to join church to test to see if you can know Jesus reveals He is only there. So as I did not experience Catholic Church I will seek to join it and if I do not find Christ there I will try Orthodox Church and if I don’t find Him there I will not follow it as I would believe it is not from God biblical if not.
 
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I am not sure why I don’t feel peace to be experiencing God to know Him to be assured of the way and why I have not experienced Him fully and if I can outside the church as I am not seeing many able to show that to give peace and incase I do not and don’t know if I will find it I think I should just return to Orthodox Church because I am not sure I will have time to join Catholic Church and they will make it difficult and if it will convince. I believe God accepts Catholics because it may be you can not know if orthodox is true even maybe those who convert from orthodox to Catholic Church if it is politics and all are part of church if they don’t know but I don’t know so maybe they should return to Orthodox Church if they don’t know or believe Catholic is true.
 
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I just thought I should do that because I have not found support that helps encourage others but I will seek to find a church that follows only the bible that knows the word of God where there is fellowship and strong believers which can help me and others.
 
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