I have found that anti-Trump people never give an example to show how awful he is

[discombobulated1]

They just give you vague sounding stuff like: Trump's past life!!.. blah blah blah

or Trump has been indicted (Wow, what a Newsflash)

I was reading one of those tabloid things the other day just because it was there and the line was long in the store and I was bored.

It made it sound like some HUGE new info had come from the trial Trump is going through, the first of.. I believe 4 trials to try to derail his campaign/future presidency.

The huge news was SO awful that Melania, apparently is thinking of divorcing Trump and she doesn't sleep with him because... well, we don't know.

The article didn't even say what the huge news was (!)--the news Melania heard that ripped up her relationship with Trump (allegedly).

Wow... no wonder no one trusts "the media" anymore. No wonder most intelligent people don't actually buy those rags.

In any case... where was I?

oh yeh... I read the entire article because the line was really long and the article was not.. but there it was, the proverbial nothing burger. And leftists are ALWAYS doing this.. Trump is hideous! He's going to destroy democracy (how ironic that one is)... Trump this and Trump that but never any substantive INFORMATION to justify their emotional rantings.



It's astounding.

Intelligent people look at this kind of anti-Trump lunacy, TDS and think to themselves: That dude must be doing something REALLY REALLY right------------------------

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I’ve seen plenty of people give specific, articulate reasons (myself included). Anybody who says that “nobody” has is clearly not paying attention or reinforcing that denial isn’t just a river that has two-day shipping.

 

[JosephZ]

A Short List of Mr. Trump’s Immoral and Corrupt History

Falsifying medical records to avoid the Vietnam draft;

Spitefully attacking decorated war veterans and Gold Star families;

Mocking the testimony of sex-assault survivor, Dr. Christine Blasey Ford;

Praising, siding with, and declaring his “love” for known murderers, war criminals, dictators, and enemies of the US, including those who actively imprison and murder Christians;

Deporting non-white service members of the US Armed Forces;

Abandoning US allies in Northern Syria in preparation for a Russian invasion;

Attempting to discredit and undermine US intelligence agencies, including the FBI and CIA;

Committing adultery with porn stars and Playboy Playmates;

Paying hush money to his mistresses in order to conceal his adulterous affairs;

Settling a $25 million class action lawsuit over his fraudulent Trump University;

Dissolving the Donald J. Trump Foundation by court order for bribery, links to foreign countries, and using charitable funds for paying off personal debt and political campaigns;

Being court ordered to pay $2 million for using charitable donations for personal purposes;

Having lost 38 lawsuits regarding breaches of contract, defamation, and sexual harassment;

Having had over 36 tax liens against Trump properties for nonpayment of taxes;

Having businesses and properties linked to domestic and foreign organized crime rings;

Labelling desperate Mexican women and children as rapists and drug dealers;

Labelling desperate women and children refugees as dangerous terrorists;

Labelling Africans and Haitians as HIV-infected people from “[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]hole” countries;

Separating infants, toddlers, and young children from their immigrant parents;

Deliberately stoking cruel paranoia and xenophobia about blacks, immigrants, and Muslims;

Bullying and making fun of the physically handicapped;

Tactlessly provoking military and economic tension with foreign countries;

Harming farmers and the US economy with unnecessary tariffs;

Declaring any journalist, news report, or news agency that criticizes him as illegitimate;

Banning or restricting Muslim immigrants and refugees from entering the United States;

Making disparaging, misogynistic, and racist statements about women and racial minorities;

Spreading sensationalistic propaganda and false conspiracy theories about his opponents;

Publicly questioning the legitimacy of any federal prosecutor or judge who opposes him;

Routinely hinting at his desire to eliminate government checks and balances and to remain in office indefinitely;

Refusing to denounce white supremacist groups and leaders who endorse him;

Calling members of a white supremacist faction “very fine people”;

Inciting violence and hatred at his rallies;

Refusing to denounce his supporters who perpetrate horrendous crimes in his name;

Telling his supporters that he will pay for their legal expenses if they assault other Americans;

Encouraging law enforcement personnel to engage in abuses of power;

Impeding disaster relief aid to Americans living in Puerto Rico and California;

Contributing to the increase in white supremacy, anti-Semitism, and Islamophobia;

Frequently appointing white supremacists and their sympathizers to positions of power;

Frequently appointing people with gross inexperience or conflicts of interest;

Frequently appointing uncredentialed family members and close friends;

Compulsively pronouncing over 13,435 false or misleading statements in under 3 years;

Using his presidency to promote Trump brands, resorts, and Trump family merchandise;

Repeatedly violating the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution;

Repeatedly sponsoring and supporting those who violated the House Ethics Committee;

Publicly endorsing Roy Moore, an accused child molester;

Seeking foreign interference in America’s political campaigns;

Having well-documented ties to Russian officials, suggesting collusion with foreign countries;

Bribing and extorting the President of Ukraine for personal political reasons by withholding Congressionally-mandated military aid to the country;

Having officially been accused of committing a crime by the Government Accountability Office for violating the Impoundment Control Act;

Engaging in a cover up about his bribing the Ukrainian President, resulting in his impeachment;

Hiding tax returns from public and criminal inspection;

Bragging about never paying taxes like other hard-working Americans;

Taking measurable steps to oppose and suppress the rights of LGBTQ+ Americans;

Taking measurable steps to restrict the rights and protections of labor workers;

Taking measurable steps to harm the environment and endangered species, including denying the validity of climate science;

Slashing funding for mental health, public housing, and children’s food programs;

Disclosing confidential information about Twitter users and whistleblowers;

Receiving several reprimands from the Office of Government Ethics;

Removing and violating White House ethics training for department members;

Being the subject of or involved in 12 congressional investigations, 10 federal criminal investigations, and 8 state and local criminal investigations;

Engaging in witness tampering, obstructionist behavior, and witness intimidation;

Being pathologically unrepentant and unremorseful about any of his sinful behavior.

 

[AlexB23]

Psalm 10:2-7

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[discombobulated1]

I’ve seen plenty of people give specific, articulate reasons (myself included). Anybody who says that “nobody” has is clearly not paying attention or reinforcing that denial isn’t just a river that has two-day shipping.

Thanks for making my point!

 

[discombobulated1]

Psalm 10:2-7

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Thanks for making my point!

 

[discombobulated1]

A Short List of Mr. Trump’s Immoral and Corrupt History

Falsifying medical records to avoid the Vietnam draft;

Spitefully attacking decorated war veterans and Gold Star families;

Mocking the testimony of sex-assault survivor, Dr. Christine Blasey Ford;

Praising, siding with, and declaring his “love” for known murderers, war criminals, dictators, and enemies of the US, including those who actively imprison and murder Christians;

.....................

Being pathologically unrepentant and unremorseful about any of his sinful behavior.

I could make the same list for YOU or anyone else. I am talking about presenting PROOF

meaning: show me the exact court cases where Trump lost and was convicted of a crime.

Your list means nothing. I could make a list of nefarious acts and pin it on you or anyone.

so again

thanks for making my case. Liberals just stack up words upon words that mean nothing.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Thanks for making my point!

No, thanks for making mine, my dude.

 

[Diamond7]

Wow... no wonder no one trusts "the media" anymore.

Was there a time when they trusted the media? Maybe Walter Klondike but that was about it. He was often cited as "the most trusted man in America". No one seems to want to follow in his footsteps.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

He can speak for himself.

trump grabbing - Google Search

trump mocking - Google Search

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5109610/president-trump-mocks-stuttering

trump mocking - Google Search

 

[FreeinChrist]

I could make the same list for YOU or anyone else. I am talking about presenting PROOF

meaning: show me the exact court cases where Trump lost and was convicted of a crime.

Your list means nothing. I could make a list of nefarious acts and pin it on you or anyone.

so again

thanks for making my case. Liberals just stack up words upon words that mean nothing.

Your reply is ridiculous to me, and obviously all the actual evidence with links and quotes from Trump have been invisible to some.


As to fraud:

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/de

fault/files/tto_release_properties_addendum_-_final.pdf
Take the time to read it or one can stay willfully ignorant if they wish.

Judge finalizes $25 million settlement for 'victims of Donald Trump's fraudulent university'

Trump University attendees are getting paid back.

abcnews.go.com

A federal judge in the Southern District of California on Monday finalized a $25 million settlement to be paid to attendees of the now-defunct real estate seminar called Trump University. ....​

"This settlement marked a stunning reversal by President Trump, who for years refused to compensate the victims of his sham university," the statement added. "My office won't hesitate to hold those who commit fraud accountable, no matter how rich or powerful they may be."​

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Trump pays up: $2M to charities as fine for foundation abuse

NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump is paying up after conceding that he used his charitable foundation at times as a personal piggy bank.

apnews.com

President Donald Trump is paying up after conceding that he used his charitable foundation at times as a personal piggy bank.​

SEC charges Trump Media auditor with ‘massive fraud’

BF Borgers agrees to $12m civil penalty and owner Benjamin Borgers agrees to pay $2m

www.theguardian.com

The auditor for former​

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president Donald Trump’s Trump Media was accused of running a “massive fraud” and a “sham audit mill” by the US’s top financial regulator on Friday.​

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BF Borgers and its owner Benjamin Borgers, whose clients include Trump Media, were charged by the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) with a fraud that affected more than 1,500 SEC filings. Borgers has also acted for financial tech and crypto companies, SEC filings show.​

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As to being a "great businessman":

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Business career of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Business bankruptcies​

Further information: Personal and business legal affairs of Donald Trump § Use of bankruptcy laws​

Although Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy, hotels and casino businesses of his have declared bankruptcy[56] six times between 1991 and 2009 due to its inability to meet required payments and to re-negotiate debt with banks, owners of stock and bonds and various small businesses (unsecured creditors).[57][58] Because the businesses used Chapter 11 bankruptcy, they were allowed to operate while negotiations proceeded. Trump was quoted by Newsweek in 2011 saying, "I do play with the bankruptcy laws—they're very good for me."[59][60]​

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The six bankruptcies were the result of over-leveraged hotel and casino businesses in Atlantic City and New York: Trump Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino (1992), Plaza Hotel (1992), Trump Castle Hotel and Casino (1992), Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts (2004), and Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009).[56]“It must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees.” — Trump to a female contestant in 2013 on an episode of “Celebrity Apprentice.”[61][62] Trump said "I've used the laws of this country to pare debt. ... We'll have the company. We'll throw it into a chapter. We'll negotiate with the banks. We'll make a fantastic deal. You know, it's like on The Apprentice. It's not personal. It's just business."[50]​

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Ad to his comments about women, I can't post the video of him talking to Billy Bush and how he "grabs them by " privates. Can't use the real word. Trump quotes:

Trump has long history of offensive comments about women

Warning: This post contains explicit language.

www.pbs.org

“It must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees.” — Trump to a female contestant in 2013 on an episode of “Celebrity Apprentice.”​

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“It’s certainly not groundbreaking news that the early victories by the women on ‘The Apprentice’ were, to a very large extent, dependent on their sex appeal.” — Trump wrote in his 2004 book, “How To Get Rich.”​

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“You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her wherever.” — Trump in an interview with CNN in August 2015, referring to Fox News Channel anchor Megyn Kelly.​

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“Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president? I mean, she’s a woman, and I’m not s’posedta say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?” — Trump in a September 2015 interview with Rolling Stone, speaking about then-primary rival Carly Fiorina.​

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(BTW, I followed the guidelines for profanity in this post. Any profanity in the article was a quote of Trump, which is allowed per the SOP)​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point.​

Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse.​

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A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.​

The criminal charges regarding classified documents include:

What are the Classified Documents in the Trump Indictment?

What do we know, and what can we infer, about the 31 documents the special counsel's office charges Trump with retaining?

www.lawfaremedia.org

Like all indictments, this indictment includes some mandatory redactions (names of countries and individuals not charged), as well as listing 31 specific classified documents obliquely. We can do a bit of digging to de-anonymize or reasonably guess the contents of some of those.

The Charges​

• 31 counts of Wilful Retention of National Defense Information — 18 USC 793(e)
• Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice — 18 USC 1512(k)
• Withholding a Document or Record — 18 USC 1512 (b)(2)(A), and abetting
• Corrupting concealing a Document or Record — 18 USC 1512[c](1), and abetting
• Concealing a Document in a Federal Investigation — 18 USC 1519, and abetting
• Scheme to Conceal — 18 USC 1001(a)(1), and abetting
• False Statements and Representations — 18 USC 1001(a)(2), and abetting

The first group (wilful retention) relate to the actual holding and retention of specific classified documents. The final group of charges all relate to Trump’s conspiracy to hide them from government investigators and the Grand Jury during the investigation generally.​

Do you want more?

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[discombobulated1]

Was there a time when they trusted the media? Maybe Walter Klondike but that was about it. He was often cited as "the most trusted man in America". No one seems to want to follow in his footsteps.

Well, there are news folks I trust like Maria Bartiromo. I tend to trust Tucker Carlson, though I didn't like what he said about disliking Trump (personal emails or texts discovered in a lawsuit). That tended to lessen my respect for him because again, I have never seen anything about Trump that was on the level of reject-worthy.

I trust Hannity. Yes, he can be repetitious, but maybe that's for the folks who are not familiar with thestories he covers.

I trust Laura Ingraham.

And there are others.

 

[discombobulated1]

Your reply is ridiculous to me, and obviously all the actual evidence with links and quotes from Trump have been invisible to some.

I don't trust people who start their responses like this.

If my thoughts are so "ridiculous" why do you even bother responding--and a very LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG response at that

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

If my thoughts are so "ridiculous" why do you even bother responding-

Some people can't resist correcting error no matter how ridiculous.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I don't trust people who start their responses like this.

If my thoughts are so "ridiculous" why do you even bother responding--and a very LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG response at that

Major dodging here. The OP starts with unsubstantiated and vague complaints like whining about the those who do not like Trump. You complained that there was no PROOF.

You were given many links to PROOF. Are you going to respond to that PROOF or just dodge and avoid it all?

That "LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG" response was loaded with proof and support for the negative things said about Trump. Apparently you have no response?

 

[discombobulated1]

Some people can't resist correcting error no matter how ridiculous.

or so called error

 

[FreeinChrist]

or so called error

I would call it unsubstantiated whining intended to insult. That is how I viewed it.

I have been amazed over the years that when clear evidence is right in front of people, they refuse to see it or acknowledge it.

 

[Diamond7]

Well, there are news folks I trust like Maria Bartiromo.

I do not keep up with the news as much as I should. The principal at my high school was a holocaust survivor. He taught us that your life may depend on keeping up with the news and being aware of what is going on around you.

 

[discombobulated1]

Some people can't resist correcting error no matter how ridiculous.

show me the "error"

I disagreed with someone?

wow... that's objective

 

[discombobulated1]

I do not keep up with the news as much as I should. The principal at my high school was a holocaust survivor. He taught us that your life may depend on keeping up with the news and being aware of what is going on around you.

So you don't believe him? LOL

I used to not follow the news but that was decades ago when I didn't think I would be all that interested. Boy, was I wrong! However, I do have moments in which I can't stand to hear one more word. The thing is, in those moments I watch someone like Laura Ingraham and.. well, i love her sarcasm! It makes me LOL so yeh, sometimes the news / commentary can be funny and make you feel better, if only momentarily