I have a struggle recarding archbishops. Please help me.

[A_Quistion_that_I_am]

If an archbishop loses his faith in God, What would happen to him?
And can a archbishop be a specialist of theology? A scientist even?
And can it have a priest as a nephew?

These questions are confusing, i know.
But please, if you know something.
Please tell me. Im desperate.

 

[tapero]

I don't know what an archbishop is but a Christian can not lose their salvation, even when they lose faith. We are guaranteed redemption (salvation) as the Holy Spirit indwells us when we first believed. Sorry I don't know the answers to your other questions.

God bless, take care, Tapero

 

[starelda]

If an archbishop loses his faith in God, What would happen to him?

I guess he'd stop being an archbishop. Just like if a priest lost their faith I expect they'd step down from their role.

And can a archbishop be a specialist of theology? A scientist even?

Specialist in theology? I should hope so. As an archbishop I would think they'd have studied this a lot. Though what do you mean by "A scientist even?". There's no reason why they can't have an interest in science.

And can it have a priest as a nephew?

Of course, Archbishops have family you know...they are human like the rest of us. I would think they'd be very happy to see their nephew become a priest.

 

[A_Quistion_that_I_am]

Thank you all.
I know my questions are confusing.
Im confuced.
They say their are Archbishops somewhere on the planet.
But what if it just a (normale) Bishop.
If a importan bishop loses his faith, what then??

Im sorry if I confused you?

 

[starelda]

Yes, there are Archbishops within my denomination (Church of England)...not all denominations have Archbishops.

I'd imagine that if a bishop lost their faith the same would apply...they'd most likely step down from their role.

 

[Annoula]

Archibishops are in the Orthodox Church.

they are celibate priests of higher rank. common priests can marry and have a family, while archibishops are required to focus on their religious work.

archibishops come from family that means that they can have sisters, brothers, nephews, nieces.

i don't understand what you mean by an archibishop loosing his faith.

if you can be more specific we could give more specific answers.

 

[A_Quistion_that_I_am]

Archibishops are in the Orthodox Church.

they are celibate priests of higher rank. common priests can marry and have a family, while archibishops are required to focus on their religious work.

archibishops come from family that means that they can have sisters, brothers, nephews, nieces.

i don't understand what you mean by an archibishop loosing his faith.

if you can be more specific we could give more specific answers.

It's hard for me to explain, but...
Like a child stops believing in santa, only a bishop, an archbishop losing his faith in God is something much bigger. Right???
What can happen to a person like that??

Did that explain anything????????????????

 

[heron]

I had a friend who became a pastor. After a long time of dealing with people, he grew exhausted and disillusioned, and lost the faith. He took another job because he knew he wouldn't do justice to people if he didn't believe. In his situation, I suspect it was temporary...that after he stops associating people with God, he might see things as he used to ...the distracting fog clearing.

I would guess there are rules...you might want to check websites of the denomination you're thinking of. (Roman Catholic, Anglican, Orthodox...)

I doubt the nephew would lose any opportunities, especially if the archbishop served their diocese well for many years. If all else fails, the nephew can go protestant. (-;

Scientist/theologian...of course yes. Those are separate from the leadership role. I've met theologians who don't believe in God...sad to see, but yes.

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[dallaskeen]

Indeed. I guess if anyone lost faith would step down. I guess it takes guts to step down from being an Archbishop though.

 

[heron]

Yeah! And I doubt they would have a sudden realization that they didn't believe, so they'd have to decide at what point the couldn't go on.
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[Jim47]

I can see that you are getting a broad range of answers. First, what is faith? Faith in what and whom?

Jesus said:
Jn 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well.

So we can see that we should have faith in Jesus if we want to get to heaven, and that no one goes to The father except though Jesus. What this means is that we won't get to heaven by our own works or righteousness, and that if we deny Jesus we deny also The Father who sent Him.

Can we lose salvation?
Warning Against Falling Away
Heb 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6 if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

Heb 10:26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people." 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


Heb 10:35 So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded. 36 You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised. 37 For in just a very little while,
"He who is coming will come and will not delay.
Heb 10:38 But my righteous one will live by faith.
And if he shrinks back,
I will not be pleased with him." 39 But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed, but of those who believe and are saved.

 

[dallaskeen]

Yeah I would suppose it isn't good to lose faith.

 

[A_Quistion_that_I_am]

Heb 10:26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people." 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

I see you can expact the worst.
But Isn't that like beeing afraid for God?
It almost looks like you are beeing forced to believe, or you can expact the worst of God that will haunt you forever even in death.
There has never been real touchable prove, only faith and other peoples words.
Is it understandable that people don't want to believe because their afraid, or also doubt that there even is a God.
Can you blame them for not believing or losing their faith in Him???

Or Not???

 

[Jim47]

I see you can expact the worst.
But Isn't that like beeing afraid for God?
It almost looks like you are beeing forced to believe, or you can expact the worst of God that will haunt you forever even in death.
There has never been real touchable prove, only faith and other peoples words.
Is it understandable that people don't want to believe because their afraid, or also doubt that there even is a God.
Can you blame them for not believing or losing their faith in Him???

Or Not???

God has said: The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom", but like I said, we who have professed faith in God and jesus as our Savior have nothing to fear. Only those who refuse need to fear.

I am hoping that you want to believe, is that what you want? Or do you want to merley set in judgement of God and find fault in Him because you do not have faith or understanding?

God says in the old testament:
Eze 18:21 "But if a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. 22 None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him. Because of the righteous things he has done, he will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
Eze 18:24 "But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked man does, will he live? None of the righteous things he has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness he is guilty of and because of the sins he has committed, he will die.
Eze 18:25 "Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear, O house of Israel: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust? 26 If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin, he will die for it; because of the sin he has committed he will die. 27 But if a wicked man turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he will save his life. 28 Because he considers all the offenses he has committed and turns away from them, he will surely live; he will not die. 29 Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Are my ways unjust, O house of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust?
Eze 18:30 "Therefore, O house of Israel, I will judge you, each one according to his ways, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. 31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, O house of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!

Jesus said: Jn 12:46 I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.

God rejoices over the repentance of unbelief of every single soul. He is waiting for you as well.

 

[A_Quistion_that_I_am]

Don't worry about me Jim, I am merley trying to understand.
There for i ask questions.
It is that simple, yet my question hasn't been answerd.

God has said: The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom", but like I said, we who have professed faith in God and jesus as our Savior have nothing to fear. Only those who refuse need to fear.

Again saying that If you refuse God, you will live in fear or even worse.
Ain't that like using other peoples feelings, to make their judsment to choose or refuse???
Doesn't it sound more like a threat???

Or not?

 

[Jim47]

A_Quistion_that_I_am

Again saying that If you refuse God, you will live in fear or even worse.
Ain't that like using other peoples feelings, to make their judsment to choose or refuse???
Doesn't it sound more like a threat???

Or not?

It doesn't matter at all what people think or say, the only thing that matters is if we believe God and what He has said.

God has said that we are "all" sinners" and that anyone who denies the free salvation He paid for by the innocent suffering and death of His beloved Son will perish.

Please see this parable told by Jesus, it should help you to understand. I am also available to talk in private if you want to PM or e-mail me, please let me know.

The Parable of the Wedding Banquet

1Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: 2"The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. 3He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.

4"Then he sent some more servants and said, 'Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.'
5"But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. 6The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. 7The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.
8"Then he said to his servants, 'The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. 9Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.' 10So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11"But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. 12'Friend,' he asked, 'how did you get in here without wedding clothes?' The man was speechless.
13"Then the king told the attendants, 'Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' 14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."

 

[Deb7777]

If an archbishop loses his faith in God, What would happen to him?
And can a archbishop be a specialist of theology? A scientist even?
And can it have a priest as a nephew?

These questions are confusing, i know.
But please, if you know something.
Please tell me. Im desperate.

First of all, an archbishop is a christian so if a Christian loses their faith what will happen to them? It depends, are they going through a tough time and will regain their faith, do they completely reject God as being a myth. One thing is for sure if they break the commandments and even still confess to be a Christian, if they don't repent from the evil they have committed, they will in Catholic theology die in mortal sin and thus be separated from God forever. If a Christian dies rejecting his faith and beliefs, God will judge his heart on how such a state came about and if the condition is indeed a mortal sin which it could very well be according to the light God permitted the person to have to see the truth but still rejected it. The bible is quite clear the more a person has been given the more God will asked of a person and less likely they can claim ignorance of the truth. If an Archbishop lost his faith that would be sad indeed because of the witness he is to bear to the risen Christ. Hopefully, whatever brings about the lost of faith for any Christian will not be permanent condition, God alone will be their judge.

 

[A_Quistion_that_I_am]

Thank you all.
You have been a great help to me.

But I wonder, what does a bishop do for work?
Not just the usually work for the church.
Also what his private live is like, what do they do usually?
I never heared anything about it.

You???

 

[Deb7777]

Thank you all.
You have been a great help to me.

But I wonder, what does a bishop do for work?
Not just the usually work for the church.
Also what his private live is like, what do they do usually?
I never heared anything about it.

You???

A Bishop is a very busy person with the Church. Outside of Church work, I'm sure they have their personal devotions and their owns ways of relaxing, golf, tennis, swimming, walking they need to unwind too. If your interested in the lives of Bishops, do a google search and I'm sure you can come up with some autobiographies, etc. God bless. I know Pope John Paul like to swim and walk. In fact, you should read the life of Pope John Paul II.

 

[A_Quistion_that_I_am]

A Bishop is a very busy person with the Church. Outside of Church work, I'm sure they have their personal devotions and their owns ways of relaxing, golf, tennis, swimming, walking they need to unwind too. If your interested in the lives of Bishops, do a google search and I'm sure you can come up with some autobiographies, etc. God bless. I know Pope John Paul like to swim and walk. In fact, you should read the life of Pope John Paul II.

May John paul rest in peace.
But the pope is a pope, not a bishop.
Well...he was a bishop, but not anymore.
Not saying because he past away, Oh no.
He will be remembered as the Pope.
Still, Whats the diffenerents between popes and bishops and priests and more?