I don't want Orthodox union with Rome

[prodromos]

I hope the EO have enjoyed their selection, that is Islam... since most EOs have become Muslim.

Weird that your spell checker would turn "martyrs" into "Muslim"

 

[Wryetui]

Sts Mark of Ephesus, Alexis Toth, Nektarios of Aegina, Theophan the Recluse, Paisios of Mt Athos, etc



pretty sure they say the bread and wine become the Body and Blood and cease to be bread and wine. the taste and appearance are "accidents." we don't define it as such, because that thinking comes from pagan Greek philosophy. transubstantiation is one of many terms used to describe the miracle, but not the only one and not as an explanation.

I am pretty shocked about this. I always told everyone that what we have on the chalice at the eucharist are the actual Body and Blood of Christ, that every part, every particle or molecule from the chalice is Blood and Body and that we only see them as bread and wine because they appear to be it even if their essence is a completely different one, don't we believe this?

 

[dzheremi]

I hope the EO have enjoyed their selection, that is Islam... since most EOs have become Muslim. Many people of the the east now worship the false God of Islam. I heard most fasting is condensed, so there is that.

If most EO are now Muslim (which must be news to the population of Russia, the largest EO nation, not to mention all the other Slavic countries, Romania, and Greece), then what do we say of places which previously had huge Christian populations aligned with Rome in particular, like Lebanon (60+% Muslim), Algeria (99% Muslim), and Tunisia (99% Muslim)?

I would find discussing your claims quite interesting. But CF's congregational forums are "reality free zones" where you can make up whatever you want.

If you are that interested you can either find a non-polemical way to address the EO posters and their faith, or start your own thread on the St. Justin debate board where you can post your feelings and impressions unencumbered by the constraints of the main congregational forum. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by trashing either the people here or the set-up of the boards themselves.

 

[Stabat Mater dolorosa]

I hope the EO have enjoyed their selection, that is Islam... since most EOs have become Muslim. Many people of the the east now worship the false God of Islam. I heard most fasting is condensed, so there is that.

I would find discussing your claims quite interesting. But CF's congregational forums are "reality free zones" where you can make up whatever you want.

What a load of rubbish...
Besides you know that even though Islam is full of heresy it actually worship the same God as we do to some extent.

Both Islam, Judaism and Christianity origins from father Abraham, hence abrahamitic religions a term used when referring to the three religions.

So while they teach heresy to the level of damnation their God though misrepresented through Islam is no false God.

 

[ArmyMatt]

always told everyone that what we have on the chalice at the eucharist are the actual Body and Blood of Christ, that every part, every particle or molecule from the chalice is Blood and Body and that we only see them as bread and wine because they appear to be it even if their essence is a completely different one, don't we believe this?

well, it does become the Body and Blood, but nowhere have we officially defined that the bread and wine are lost somehow

 

[ArmyMatt]

I hope the EO have enjoyed their selection, that is Islam... since most EOs have become Muslim. Many people of the the east now worship the false God of Islam. I heard most fasting is condensed, so there is that.

I would find discussing your claims quite interesting. But CF's congregational forums are "reality free zones" where you can make up whatever you want.

nice statement with no facts to back up said statement

 

[Wryetui]

well, it does become the Body and Blood, but nowhere have we officially defined that the bread and wine are lost somehow

Thank you for explaining, but how does the latin view come from ancient greek pagan ideas?

 

[ArmyMatt]

Thank you for explaining, but how does the latin view come from ancient greek pagan ideas?

because the ancient Church never defined the Eucharist in that way. Platonism is what says that the bread and wine would need to be gone for the Eucharist to be the Body and Blood.