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I don't know how I should feel about a certain co-worker

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GirdYourLoins

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I think this thread says a lot about the state of Christianity today. I read this and saw a picture of a woman who is lost and in need of Christ. It is an opportunity to gradually disciple her and hopefully lead her to the Lord. Everyone else is seeing this as she is inherently evil and to run away.

Yes there is a risk of attack in this situation and it needs to be handled carefully. But do people really think people should be given up on so easily and left to an eternity in hell?
 
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MATTHEW.7:6 = 6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

2CORINTHIANS.6: =
14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? 15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

“I will dwell in them
And walk among them.
I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.”

17 Therefore

“Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you.”
18 “I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the Lord Almighty.”
 
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I'll answer the second scripture first. No one is saying to be unequally yoked with her, i.e. having a relationship with her. In fact in an an earlier post I said that even if she became a Christian there would be a lot of issues that would need dealing with before she would be ready for a Christian relationship.
As for the first scripture, I'll respond with Mark 2:17.

This woman is clearly in need of salvation. I have to admit to being disappointed that so many Christians, who are called to love, so easily write her off and want to see her in hell, because that is the result of your approach. Do you not have love and compassion for the lost?
 
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MATTHEW.10: = 16 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues.
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serpents = eg the talking serpent/snake of GENESIS.3.

"It takes a thief to catch a thief". Hence, the sheep should "be wise as serpents" = believers should be wise about and beware of the wiles of the devil because some men/women are like serpents.
 
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The scripture says to "flee youthful lusts".

If the OP had not already confessed to having an attraction to her, the situation might be different. As it is, he might not be in the best shape to offer her christian counsel.

I recall a work situation where a co-worker was a bit forward with me. I was ultimately able to share the gospel with her, ... but I was not distracted by any feelings of infatuation ...
 
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Have you ever met a Narcissist?
Just say yes or no.
There is a lot at stake here, if I am right.
I pray to be wrong.
 
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@GirdYourLoins and @KayScarpettaFan I prayed a ot about this and got no where. All prayer did was flood me with so many conflicting feelings. My thoughts would bounce between infatuation with her appearance, intrigue about her wit and intelligence, but also anger and frustration when comparing her lot : the senior position, the outsized influence, her nicer vehicle, her own house, her advancement beyond her years to my own : being passed over for the senior position, my overlookability, my old beater of a Ford, my rental apartment, and how it took myself 3 try to pass the HVAC PE exam while she nailed the Structural Engineers exam plus the California Earthquake addendum in one go. When that stuff enters my head I just get fille with envy. I prayed to give my envy unto God then I get another torrent of obtrusive thoughts when I think about how amazing and fun she is. I start thinking about how when we were walking back from lunch at the conference she asked a homeless man of she could try his guitar and then proceeded to play Hotel California, Everlast's what it's like, and Classical gas she played like a pro all from memory. People were stopping to listen to her play and they were tossing money into the case when she was done all she did was hand back the guitar, thanked the homeless man for letting her try it and didn't even touch any of the money people left her.
Then I think about how dishonest she is with how she games the coporate travel/expense policy and I get angry about how she has no reverence for her engineer's creed then I get conflicting feelings about how devilishly clever she is and start wondering what the world would be like if she wasn't a shady engineer but instead a cancer doctor.
I then try to write her off as just some unethical narcissist but I can't because I know for a fact that one of the reasons she screams at the rig managers is because she knows what they are doing is unsafe. As corrupt as she is with her corporate card she never allows any one to cut corners. From what I have seen if any one tells her "this is just how things have always been" she would berate that person until he/she but mostly he acquiesce and acknowledges to her that there is no good reason to do that and they will do it her way in the future.
And then I get conflicted about what @GridYourLoins says about guiding. That just fills me with so much more self doubt and guilt. I know I should be leading her to Christ but my obtrusive thoughts make me feel so guilty. I feel guilty for lusting for her, I feel guilty for being angry at her, I feel guilty for being envious of her, and I feel guilty that I don't think I am up to the challenge of helping her.
 
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You're much too conflicted to do much more than to resist her charms right now.

Maybe your best witness, for now, is to stay out of her web ...

Note: If you give in to her, ... understand that you've likely squandered any chance you have to have a good effect on her ....
 
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I've struggled with envy lately too. And we need to remember that we are each special. I've heard when a man dies its like an entire planet dies, everything is affected. And just like each star is different from another, you are special and vitally important, its like an entire solar system depends on you. Your unique and Gods Light shines in you. Just like there is only one Jesus, there is only one of you and no one can ever replace you. Your greatly beloved, fearfully and wonderfully made. God has all the glory, your looking at these things on the surface, why? these things perish. All our works are like filthy rags, even our bodies wither away and die. Put on the things inside that will not perish. Do not be envious, instead think of how you glorify Jesus as a man. What is your identity in christ? How can you be more like him, how can your heart chase after his and how can you become more selfless? If you are looking for a wife, pray, ask God to show you the what a real christian woman looks like and let him decide for you. A prudent wife is a blessing from the Lord. And if you feel that you are quiet or not as outgoing, know that someone that is meek and quiet is of great worth in Gods sight. God humbled himself and served, washing the saints feet is honourable and noble and of great virtue, being leader isn't everything, those who are first and those who are last aren't always first and last.
 
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Please, read about Narcissism. Just to be informed about this possibility. It sounds like she is love bombing you and triangulating . Just read......it is just a reading. Please.

Hey, you're good.

Excellent discernment, sis.
 
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I don't want to give in to her. I am scared I am going to have a hard time working with her. It was so much easier before the conference when I could just avoid her. Back then I though she was cute but I had no illusions since women like her don't normally give me the time of day. It was easier just resenting her and ignoring her. But now it seems impossible because I have to work with her and very likely subordinate to her.
 
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Always be thinking ... What would Jesus do ?

Recall that Jesus met some challenging women in His day, as well ...

John 2 (The woman at the well)
 
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Uh-oh. You sound like yer in a spider web, mon.
 
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Don't ever compromise your faith for one. God should be your first priority. Next, Read the book of Daniel. Daniel lived under tyranny, and he was promoted because he was obedient to Gods will, and not his own. God had a great plan for his life, and although he probably didn't know it then, he went on to do great things to glorify God, and he prospered. Perfect love casts out fear. So do not be intimidated. Ask God to bless you with his holy wisdom. Remember that Solomon was very wise, but his heart chased after idols. Pray and ask to do Gods will and not your own.
 
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Did you think God might have sent you on that trip with her to see the real her so you would would know to avoid an emotional relationship with her in the future? Just don't give in to the person she seemed to be at the conference. She was gladly away from that controlling box that your work creates. There she was allowed to be free from the restraints of appearing a professional and morally guided. But it also allowed you to see a glimpse of the real her and if you are aware of the world, people like her are worse than a pure phony. At least you can see a pure phony coming from a mile away. Folks like her manipulate the people around them and whether it is on purpose or just because they were taught the devils lie, they will burn you the moment it gets hot. When she told you about buying gift cards on the company credit card I bet she made it seem like a "noble cause". I also bet she has a dozen other "noble causes" of which she bends the rules over. The best thing you can do is be a professional and look away emotionally. As for the work environment, be professional and don't let that ride quietly. Take her aside and tell her she needs to make it right with the company. Don't tell "on" her, let her know that. But tell her you don't agree with what she is doing, that you consider it stealing, and that if she can't decide to make it right before the company and before God, then she needs to find another "best friend". But also, pray for her and for yourself and the Lord to guide you to do the right thing according to what He wants from you and from her.
 
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Did you think God might have sent you on that trip with her to see the real her so you would know to avoid an emotional relationship with her in the future? Just don't give in to the person she seemed to be at the conference. There, she was gladly away from that controlling box that your work creates. She was allowed to be free from the restraints of appearing a professional and morally guided. But it also allowed you to see a glimpse of the real her and if you are aware of the world, people like her are worse than a pure phony. At least you can see a pure phony coming from a mile away. Folks like her manipulate the people around them and whether it is on purpose or just because they were taught the devils lie, they will burn you the moment it gets hot. When she told you about buying gift cards on the company credit card I bet she made it seem like a "noble cause". I also bet she has a dozen other "noble causes" of which she bends the rules over. The best thing you can do is be a professional and look away emotionally. As for the work environment, be professional and don't let that ride quietly. Take her aside and tell her she needs to make it right with the company. Don't tell "on" her, let her know that. But tell her you don't agree with what she is doing, that you consider it stealing, and that if she can't decide to make it right before the company and before God, then she needs to find another "best friend". But also, pray for her and for yourself and the Lord to guide you to do the right thing according to what He wants from you and from her.
 
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Are you procrastinating until someone tells you its ok to be with this woman?
We've all given lots of advice but really what are you going to do. You know what she does is wrong, but you are still contemplating some sort of dalliance with her. Very dangerous ground.

Does she know you are Christian? That you disagree with the things she does?

Why do we always think we are the only one to witness to someone? I mean I don't think that it has to be you who leads her to Christ, surely you can sow the seed but it is God who does the rest.

Just a little note re the guitar playing with the homeless man, well that struck me as her being an exhibitionist so all eyes would be on her, not the poor guy who needed the gig.And sure she let him keep the money, hey it was his guitar!
My true feelings for this is that you should talk to her and explain that you can't be part of her behaviors because of your faith, share the gospel if you feel you should, tell her because of this you do not feel comfortable going away and would prefer not to. If you are compelled to go do so with only the minimal contact with her. If it is for work as it is supposed to be, why are you hanging around with her while she drinks so long that she vomits AND you hold her hair back for her?????
Come on. Be honest I think you are flattered that she pays you attention and there is no way you are able to make any rational decisions around her. Stop justifying her and to an extent yourself and nip it in the bud now.
I think the second trip away is flirting with the devil and you've been warned by the first.

What was that jingle? "Just say NO"
 
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