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I don't know how I should feel about a certain co-worker

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Because she was extremely sweet to me after the vomit incident.

Nuff said ...

I think that you are basking in her attention to you.

In the best case scenario, she will tire of you at some point, and move on to her next conquest.

In the worst case scenario, she will not hesitate to throw you under the bus the first time she's threatened.

Pray for wisdom ... and find a nice christian girl who will really appreciate you ...

P. S. Google sucubus
 
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Because she was extremely sweet to me after the vomit incident. I do recognize that her corporate card spending is probably not correct but she did show me a good deal of humanity. The thing that she did that really touched me was how she would not put up with people at the conference being dismissive of me. I am kind of an ackward guy, and people a lot of the time either look past me or just completely disregard me. I have just gotten use to it over the years. At the conference, whenever anyone wanted to talk about or to our company she was the main attraction. The other men would completely ignore me, step over me and just turn their backs to me. Some wouldn't even acknowledge my presence and just wait their turn to talk to her. There was even one vendor who, after I introduced my self to him as a project engineer, he told me that's nice and that he really just needed to talk to her. When any one did that, be it a vendor or another conference attendee she would shut them down and tell them that if they wouldn't respect her friend (me) they weren't respecting her. She even made one guy pour me a drink first before she allowed him to serve her.

This is not really an option since the other engineering office is in British Columbia in Canada.

I am praying very hard because I think I am highly infatuated with her. It felt like torture on that 3 hour plane ride especially when she pulled up the arm rest and fell asleep on me.
And to tell you the truth, that night she came onto me I had to take an ice cold shower because of all the impure thoughts I was thinking.

There are times when we know things are wrong, but we want the moment. That's when it's time to get out quick. When people make you feel like doing dark things, understand that they know what they are doing. It sounds like she is skilled at manipulating. The whole forbidden fruit, deception, obsession, pretend like you can't help it thing, will put you in a bad place.

You know this, but you want to experience it because she makes you feel good. Well, feeling good from light is better than feeling good from darkness. Darkness just leaves you hungry for more because it is an empty tease.

Instead, have faith in God and ask him to help you become a righteous man of presence. A man filled with the spirit is a magnet. (have to be careful then too :D) Be strong and walk away. There are many Godly woman who are filled with passion and waiting for the right man. You could be that man. ;)
 
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I spent the last week at an annual Energy Conference with one of my co-workers and I am at a loss as to how I should feel about her, how I should interact with her or do about her behavior. I am so confused because she is all at the same time one of the most corrupt, dishonest, promiscuous, yet must intelligent, beautiful, and sweetest young women I have ever met.
Here is a little background: A few months ago the company I work for hired this new engineer. She was brought in and introduced as the Senior Structural Engineer. I will admit I wasn't happy with that because it was always implied by our boss that I would be promoted to senior and they were going to bring in a new junior engineer, my current title is Project Engineer. Anyways this girl is maybe 24 years old has 10 years less work history but was brought in as a senior. In the first weeks she was here you could tell that she is incredibly intelligent. But I mainly steered clear of her because she seemed very cold and distant, that of course unless she was chewing some one out. Whenever she was getting into it with some one you could hear her through her door. One she even made one of our rig managers cry. Needless to say I didn't want to be on the receiving end so I mainly avoided her and only engaged her when necessary. About 3 weeks ago our boss came in from out of town and told her she was sending her to the Energy conference and she told her that she wanted me to go too. She came into my office and proceeded to ask me who my best friend was. Not really knowing how to respond I looked at her dumbly until one of the drafters whispered in my ear that I should say she was my best friend. When I told her that she was my best friend she said that's good because I was going to be going to Colorado with her. She dismissively said that she could use an extra vote and some one to carry her bags then turned and left.
It was at the conference that's when I started noticing her behavior. At first I just thought she was a little odd but she was pleasant and even generous. On the day we arrived she said she wanted to have a steak for dinner so we went to this really expensive restaurant where the entrees were more that 50 dollars a plate. At first I was a little apprehensive because I didn't know how much we were allowed to charge onto our company cards. I expressed to her my feelings and she told me just to get whatever I want. I ordered myself a chicken dish because I didn't think she really had the authority to say if something was OK or not. She proceeded to order herself two steaks and a lobster tail, because she "didn't know if she would like the New York Strip or the Rib eye better". It was the strangest thing watching that little lady hog through two steaks and a lobster tail. When the bill came I asked if they could split the check since I asked didn't want to be responsible for what amounted to a 200$ meal. That's when she snatched the ticket out of my hand and said she would put all of it onto her card. She then made an inappropriate joke to the waitress about "not believing the hype about dating an older man". Then we went back to the hotel where she insisted on getting a few drinks. She proceeded to get completely hammered at the bar to the point where the bar tender insisted I take her back to her room. I practically carried her to her room and plopped her onto her bed. I was in the middle of asking her if she needed anything else she fell asleep fully dressed face down with her shoes on. So I left her there and returned to my room. I called our boss and she told me just to let her sleep it off ands that is "just classic Ava" and she just asked me to make sure she is OK in the morning. She then closed with a rather inappropriate joke about how in the off chance my co-worker were to die in her sleep to please bring back her laptop and iPad.
So the next morning I awoke to my Co worker knocking on my door telling me it was time for the conference breakfast. She looked completely put together, perfect makeup, classy little dress. I could not believe just 6 hours previous she was a drunk sloppy mess. Well we went down to breakfast and she again piled her plate high. It was hard not to stare as she practically inhaled 3 large plates of bacon, eggs, grits, and sausage. After breakfast she excused herself and disappeared for an hour and I didn't see her until it was her time to present.
She gave her talk, and people all adrndound were pretty impressed with her intellegance. I finally caught up with her at the end of the morning session and she was hanging off the arm of a sales rep of one of our vendors. She introduced me to him as "her best friend" and told me that the vendor was taking us to lunch. For lunch she insisted on one of the most expensive restaurants and again ordered her self the most expensive combination of items available. She then insisted that the waiter not bring me the sensible meal I ordered but instead to bring me a double portion of what she ordered because she would "feel fat" if I ate less than her. I was watching the face of the sales rep and he looked as if this was a normal thing so I decided not to rock the boat. I was shocked when she started to order multiple drinks. When the vendor rep said something she took his hand and put it onto her stomach and told him to give it a little squeeze. He then said to him "the fatter I get the less inclined I am to want to haggle". After we ate she told me she wanted to go for a walk and she made me go with her to a Chlis. She told me to wait outside while she "took care of something ". I waited for her and she came out with a dessert in a brown bag. She asked me if I wanted it, I said no so she threw it into the trash. She then told me that she wanted to take a nap so I had to go to the afternoon session in her place.
Around dinner time she came came and found me and told me that she wanted to "eat light" because after dinner she wanted to go party. Despite saying she wanted to eat light she again insisted on an expensive place and still she ordered a ton of food she just didn't eat it all this time. Then like the night before she proceeded to get totally trashed at the bar and I had to take her back to her room.
The next day was pretty much the same, she ate a huge breakfast, dissapeared for an hour, attended the morning session, forced a vendor to buy her lunch, stopped at the chili's , bailed on the afternoon session and came to find me for dinner. And like the night before she wanted to drink. This time we went to another bar which continued to serve her despite her intoxication and they served her until she stated throwing up. I was there so I ended up holding her hair back and then carrying her back to her room. Again I plopped her into her bed and left her.
The next morning was different. When she met me at my room she wasn't near as cold or dismissive as she normally was. She was much friendlier than she had ever been and she thanked me for keeping vomit out of her hair. But despite her new demeanor the same routine from the previous day just repeated it self. However, at dinner time she said she wanted to do room service instead of going out because she had to finish a report on her laptop. I initially told her to have a good night but she practically forced me to come up to eat with her.
Like the nights before she ordered a ton of food and drink and just went to town like it was no body's business. Part way through she even excused her self to change out of her dress because she complained it wa getting a little snug. So for a couple hours we ate and drank together and the more she drank the more affable and flirtatious she got. She eventually tried crawling into my lap but I used all my spiritual fortitude to resist her advances. She eventually passed out drunk and I just put her to bed. I stayed in her room with her but I didn't do anything because I was concerned and wanted to make sure she woke up.
When she woke up a few hours later, at first she made some dispariging comment about how I must be thick or gay for missing an opportunity like that. That's when I just sat her down and asked her what her deal was. I questioned her about her odd behavior. I asked her if she was trying to prove something because she really has nothing she needs to prove, I told her how intelligent she is and that she doesn't need the theatrics to draw attention to herself. That's when she said that none of what she does is theatrics. She told me about the drinking and promiscuity she just liked being drunk and having sex. And she assured me she didn't have an eating disorder and that she just enjoyed food. I asked her why then did she always have to make a pig of herself and that's when she pulled out a folder from her bag and showed me exactly why she does what she does at restaurants.
It turns out that when ever she travels for business she buys restaurant gift card on her corporate card and she sells them later. That's why when we went to eat together she always made sure the bill is super high. The way she put it is, when she is normally by herself she would maybe get a dollar cheese burger from McDonald's and then charge an 80 dollar gift card to her company card. So the company would think she ate an 80 dollar meal. Ergo when we ate together the bill HAS to be high so it wouldn't look suspicious when they do audits. She said the reason she pigs out in font of vendors is so her reputation as a big eater is established so no one questions how she can spend 100 plus at a chilis.
I was completely shocked that I was hearing this since to me this is stealing. I told her that it is odd that the company let's her charge that much for meals yet they told me it was against company policy for me to have both a laptop and a desk top. She responded by picking up the phone,calling or boss and telling her that I needed a laptop too. Our boss readily agreed.
Now I don't know what to do. I know what she is doing is wrong but she is such a sweetheart that I feel like if I told on her it would be like stepping on a kitten. And I am being honest, I do feel a strong infatuation with her and I find my self wondering what it would be like to date her. I have been single for the last 8 years and I would love to date some one as smart and sweet as her. What should I do? Would it be wrong for me to persue her despite her ethics? Should I stay silent about her activities?


Idk whom I'm more concerned about, the lady that has a drunken nature, desire to steal, and desire of fornicating, or you, the person who actually wants to pursue her knowing all this. You listed basically all the ways that she has been corrupt, and then have the nerve to paint your infatuation as something simply innocent and helpless, just because you have single for so long.....

You shouldn't be trying to date her, you should be witnessing to her. You know she is spiritually dying, and you're go-to thought is to date her and play cool with it?!


Tell them what happened. And don't pursue her, don't even entertain it. And get back to the Word and God. If you have to go find another job to keep a relationship with you and God, do it.
 
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What do you really know about her? I mean, what do you know about her past? And how did she get that position?
She sounds like a Narcissist to me. I pray I am wrong. Because, if I am right, drinking her sweet poison will make you get PTSD one day. Been there, done that. No judgement here.
Very few people could resist a Narc and their seduction.
I will pray for you.
 
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A word of professional advice since I was a scientist and a professional engineer for more than 30 years.

Professional engineers CANNOT be dishonest or corrupt. And for that matter, promiscuous is a very bad idea as well. If you want to "kiss your job goodbye", get mixed up with dishonest and corrupt people.

Otherwise, STAY AWAY from this person as far as possible. This behavior never pays, and your company will spot it very fast. If she becomes your supervisor, transfer to another group ... PRONTO!!

The advice that God gives you in the Bible is 100% correct. Stick to it.

And BTW, when you go to Energy Conferences, try to learn important things from what is being said. The 'technical stuff' is why you are there, not the running-around-and-socializing. and nobody should be jumping into bed with a GF at an engineering
conference ... your job will be vaporized.
Blessings!!
 
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Hi Michael, first off, Swords & Sunflowers has given you the very best advice possible, IMHO .. "RUN".

If that's not possible right now, then do EVERYTHING you can to protect yourself, both at work and personally (which, considering what you said about being infatuated with her, absolutely includes not being alone with her again .. EVER). She is trouble you do not need .. Proverbs 15:22, 1 Corinthians 15:33.

Yours and His,
David
p.s. - is there anyway to request a transfer to another department where you work?

2 Corinthians 6
14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?
15 What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever?

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So me going to summer camp and chatting with others there in my younger years, was sin?
 
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So me going to summer camp and chatting with others there in my younger years, was sin?
Why did you ask this question? Which part of my post caused you to ask it?

Thanks!

--David
 
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You reminded me of a situation in my life-I used to chat with unbelievers at summer camp.
Since we are called to witness to the unbelieving world, I would hardly call that a sin. What would give you the idea that talking to someone is the same thing as being "yoked" to them is? (I'm assuming your question is in reference to the passage from 2 Cor 6, yes?)
 
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Since we are called to witness to the unbelieving world, I would hardly call that a sin. What would give you the idea that talking to someone is the same thing as being "yoked" to them is? (I'm assuming your question is in reference to the passage from 2 Cor 6, yes?)

I didnt witness in my discussions with them.
 
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My two cents;

Be polite, but professional.

Avoid spending too much time around her.

Don't rat her out.

No more drinks with her, if at all possible.

Don't even consider dating her.

She's a bright, troubled, Godless, lonely, manipulative, horny, claw-your-way-to-the-top, immature young woman. Please stay away.

Pray for her, from a very, very, very professional distance.
 
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I spent the last week at an annual Energy Conference with one of my co-workers and I am at a loss as to how I should feel about her, how I should interact with her or do about her behavior. I am so confused because she is all at the same time one of the most corrupt, dishonest, promiscuous, yet must intelligent, beautiful, and sweetest young women I have ever met.

Devil in a dress, mate. Keep your distance.
 
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I didnt witness in my discussions with them.
You don't enter into a relationship where you would be considered to be "yoked together" with someone simply by having casual conversations with them, so no, talking to unbelievers is not considered a sinful thing to do (normally). It is, in fact, encouraged by God .. cf Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:15; Acts 1:8. (well, establishing friendships/trust with the hope of at least someday sharing the Gospel with them certainly is anyway).

Again, and just to be clear, the command is to not be "unequally yoked".

Yours and His,
David

Romans 10
13 “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”
14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?

15 How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, “HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!
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I agree with everyone else who tells you about staying away from her.

Just because you get strong feelings for her and feel a sense of attraction toward her doesn't mean that it is based out of love. It could also be more foundated in lust which can easily be mixed up with love.

Also that you have already gotten into starting to get inappropriate thoughts about her is a warning sign which should tell you to put down secure limits before you!

It is better to continue being single and staying faithful to God than to enter into a wrong and possibly damaging relationship.
 
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And I am being honest, I do feel a strong infatuation with her and I find my self wondering what it would be like to date her.
She's looking for fun-sex or hedonism, worldly pride and riches.(MATTHEW.4:8, 1JOHN.2:16) What are you looking for in a relationship with her.?

She's capable and outgoing, and has come to defend your weaker personality and lower office-position, likely, in order to buy your vote(= in office politics). It's a quid pro quo for her = like a vote-pandering politician, she is not being sweet to you for nothing.
 
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Pray for wisdom ... and find a nice christian girl who will really appreciate you ...

P. S. Google sucubus
I do see wisdom in everybody's warning bit to try to date her. And I did Google succbus, in my opinion that does seem a bit harsh as we are all imperfect people. I think it is a bit harsh to call her that despite her imperfections especially since Mary Magdalen was a prostitute and Paul (Saul) was a corrupt tax collector. And FWIW the good Christian women I have met at church are the ones who seem to just look right past me.
 
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I do see wisdom in everybody's warning bit to try to date her. And I did Google succbus, in my opinion that does seem a bit harsh as we are all imperfect people. I think it is a bit harsh to call her that despite her imperfections especially since Mary Magdalen was a prostitute and Paul (Saul) was a corrupt tax collector. And FWIW the good Christian women I have met at church are the ones who seem to just look right past me.

I didn't say that she was a sucubus (though your descriptions of her eating and drinking concerned me), ... but just wanted to warn you about the dangers to your soul ... from increased association with such a woman as you describe.

Perhaps your situation is more analogous to the christian young woman who, in desperation, falls victim to the charms of a "bad boy", who, really is only using her to get what they want.

Recall that Mary Magdelen was repentant ... and had become a follower of Jesus. Also Saul/Paul was a Pharisee, not a tax collector, though Jesus' disciple Matthew had been, and, of course, Zacheaus was, as well.

The point is that all of these had been changed by Christ ... and set upon a better path in life. Unless this tyoung woman goes through a similar transformation, she really remains off-limits to you. Your becoming more involved with her ... can only lead to disaster for you.

Again, I would suggest looking for someone who has principles more in line with yours. You might want to get involved with groups who share interests with you ... where you might meet someone more suitable for you.
 
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And FWIW the good Christian women I have met at church are the ones who seem to just look right past me.

Not all women are meant for you, nor will you be the one who fits for all of them. ;)

When God brings you together with the right one, she will have only eyes for you. She will look up to you, the way she is meant to as your chosen wife.

If you are meant to marry. Something you should ask and tell God about this part. He knows about your true heart's desires, and what is best for you. :) Pray about this, with a honest heart before God.
 
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