I do not fear God

[mnorian]

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[Spikey]

When I die I don't know where I'm going to go. I have recently asked to God to let me know him etc but I do not fear God.
I am very laid back when this is meant to be a serious matter. I don't know if this is because I believe I suffer from depression and so maybe I'm numb to any feelings. It's like I know I should be saved but I'm not that interested and don't have the desire to have a relationship with God or anyone. I can't control my feelings so what do I do?

Think about an eternity of existence, unbearable wherever you are and whatever you are doing. Think about not existing at all anymore, much more comfortable. Live life now, enjoy it, you are a long time dead.

 

[mnorian]

Excuse me!!! I am a christian!

A "Seeker" faith designation on CF is for Non-Christians and can't post on any "Christians Only" forums.

 

[AservantofGodandthelordJC]

When I die I don't know where I'm going to go. I have recently asked to God to let me know him etc but I do not fear God.
I am very laid back when this is meant to be a serious matter. I don't know if this is because I believe I suffer from depression and so maybe I'm numb to any feelings. It's like I know I should be saved but I'm not that interested and don't have the desire to have a relationship with God or anyone. I can't control my feelings so what do I do?

You do fear God, the issue is you arn't aware of it. When the bible says you should fear God, that's a given, everyone already does. What it means is you should be aware of why and where the fear is.

 

[W2L]

In a great many cases the biblical word that has been translated as "fear" should more properly be translated as "reverence" or "awe".

1 John 4: 18 --- There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

What about the scripture you just posted? Does fear mean reverence in that scripture too? Does that mean that perfect love casts our reverence?

 

[pantingdeer]

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[clayjars]

@Andrew98, Most of my young adulthood I thought to love God was to be afraid of Him & try to live "right" for Him. Unfortunately, I was a slave to my sins. I became very religious and tried hard to change, but I was messed up inside. I began to hate myself and hate God. It was when I hit very bottom when I realized what Ephesians 2:8 meant: "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God." God already loved me through Jesus, but I couldn't accept it. I felt I deserved to be punished, or at least clean up my act first. But God loved me because Jesus gave His life up for me when I was still a sinner. Accepting Jesus' perfect love for me when I felt undeserving was one of the hardest thing to do for me. But realizing His love released my heart from the grip of sin, from its guilt and shame. Jesus has been undoing the effects of sin in my life since that moment, walking with me, loving me, forgiving me... What all my efforts and religion couldn't do in my life, Jesus has been doing. Rom 8:37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.

I understand where you are at, Andrew. I'll be praying for you.

 

[DK7]

Nice reply "clayjars"! Thank God and Glory to God Almighty for removing the sins in your life. We all have some bad habits that are hard to break, but just like our Apostle Paul, he too struggled with sin, but he eventually overcame those sins, thank be to God! Once we are saved, once the Holy Spirit enters our body, we are sealed with that eternal salvation. Here is one of my favorite verses:
Ephesians 1:13 King James Version:
13. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
In the above verse, the word trusted is "Jesus". Trust in "HOW" Jesus died. Jesus died by shedding of His Blood. It is the shedding of his blood that we must trust because Jesus' blood covers our sins which allows us to be Holy and Blameless in the eyes of God.

Andrew, just trust in the Blood of Jesus Christ and believe that Jesus' blood covers your sins.
We are at the very last days. The world is living in Apostasy (falling away from the truth).
Jesus is coming very soon. We must be always watching for Jesus' return. To the saved, Jesus will not come like a thief in the night. Instead, to the saved, we will know the season of His return.
1Thessalonians 5: 4 - 8 King James Version:
4. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7. For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

Keep reading the King James Bible; read it daily to keep you strong in the Faith! God Bless You!!

 

[drich0150]

When I die I don't know where I'm going to go. I have recently asked to God to let me know him etc but I do not fear God.
I am very laid back when this is meant to be a serious matter. I don't know if this is because I believe I suffer from depression and so maybe I'm numb to any feelings. It's like I know I should be saved but I'm not that interested and don't have the desire to have a relationship with God or anyone. I can't control my feelings so what do I do?

You can not fear what you do not know to be fearful. Apparently your version of God is a someone you can from one degree or another control. because the absence of control is the beginning of fear.

If you want to fear the God of the bible, Cry out to the God of the bible to make you fear him as prescribed in the bible. just keep asking for this till it happens. before it is all over you will get to taste that fear one way or another.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Multitudes are fearful just because they are under the power of the god of this world,
even when they cannot express why they are so afraid, or what they are afraid of.
Depressed to. A common struggle in a perverse, guilty world.

You can not fear what you do not know to be fearful.

 

[Chinchilla]

When I die I don't know where I'm going to go. I have recently asked to God to let me know him etc but I do not fear God.
I am very laid back when this is meant to be a serious matter. I don't know if this is because I believe I suffer from depression and so maybe I'm numb to any feelings. It's like I know I should be saved but I'm not that interested and don't have the desire to have a relationship with God or anyone. I can't control my feelings so what do I do?

You need to be born again to enter Kingdom of God.

Basically it goes like this : preacher is preaching the gospel to you and you decide if you accept it or not .

1) Gospel is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

a)Christ died for your sins ( past , present , future )
b) was burried and rose again from the dead overcomming death
c) he fulfilled Scriptures , meaning everything what prophets over thousands of years said so he could prove that he is God . ( Read for example Isaiah 53 700 something year prophecy and see who is this talking about )

Salvation is free to anybody who desires read Ephesians 2:8-9 , Galatians 2:16 , it is free gift , underserved ( that's why it's called grace ) for anybody who wants .

If you call upon name of Jesus Christ you will be saved

Romans 10:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


because he finished paying for sins he can forgive you

11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

If you believed then you are sealed with Holy Spirit forever and will go to heaven when you die Ephesians 1:13-14 , if not then you are damned and will go to hell when you die , it's your choice to make .

John 3:18
“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

 

[drich0150]

Multitudes are fearful just because they are under the power of the god of this world,
even when they cannot express why they are so afraid, or what they are afraid of.
Depressed to. A common struggle in a perverse, guilty world.

Read the OP this person is NOT who you are describing. My advice was to him and his situation.

Is your need to be corrective so important you would brush aside Godly/biblical advice just to speak correctly in generalities? where is the love for the OP and his problem?

Wisdom without love amounts to a clanging symbol...

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Hey, how about that ! 'I hear' a clanging bell sound just before 10a.m. and didn't know where it came from..... Now I know...

I just re-read the op just in case I missed something. Nope. My earlier post(s) fits perfect what is revealed in the OP and in later posts.

 

[pantingdeer]

@Andrew98, Most of my young adulthood I thought to love God was to be afraid of Him & try to live "right" for Him. Unfortunately, I was a slave to my sins. I became very religious and tried hard to change, but I was messed up inside. I began to hate myself and hate God. It was when I hit very bottom when I realized what Ephesians 2:8 meant: "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God." God already loved me through Jesus, but I couldn't accept it. I felt I deserved to be punished, or at least clean up my act first. But God loved me because Jesus gave His life up for me when I was still a sinner. Accepting Jesus' perfect love for me when I felt undeserving was one of the hardest thing to do for me. But realizing His love released my heart from the grip of sin, from its guilt and shame. Jesus has been undoing the effects of sin in my life since that moment, walking with me, loving me, forgiving me... What all my efforts and religion couldn't do in my life, Jesus has been doing. Rom 8:37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.

I understand where you are at, Andrew. I'll be praying for you.

I haven't been online in a few weeks and just read this. Thank you for your reply. It described exactly how I felt. I feel like a disgusting piece of dirt who hates everyone, everything and myself. I need to realise that someone loves me.

 

[DK7]

Nice verses Chinchilla!

Hi Andrew, the fact that you are still here, means that God has a perfect plan for you.
Philippians 1:6 King James Bible:
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Life without Jesus Christ is all vanity.
King Solomon the wisest person that ever lived on this earth (aside of Jesus Christ) and the richest man that ever lived, said in Ecclesiastes:

Ecclesiastes 1:2 King James Bible:
2. Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
3. What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?
4. One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
5. The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
6. The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.
7. All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
8. All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
9. The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
11. There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.

Here is King Solomon with all the riches of the world, yet, in the end he said it is all worthless. Life without God, life without Jesus Christ, is all a waste. Our life on earth is so short and quick, like the wind that comes and goes.

Andrew, just ask God, pray to him, ask Him to Save you. Your prayer can sound like the following:

"Dear Heavenly Father, God in Heaven, please Save me from this world, please save me from my sins. I believe in your Son, Jesus Christ, that He died on the cross and shed His Blood for me, so that I all my sins are forgiven, forever. And that Jesus was buried and rose again after three days and ascended to Heaven who is now seated on the right hand of God. With the Blood of Jesus, God you see me as Holy and without blame. I accept Jesus Christ as my Saviour and trust only in Jesus Christ to get to Heaven.
Thank you for your Grace and for giving me the Faith to believe in the one and only Saviour, Jesus Christ. In the name of Jesus Christ I pray, Amen".

God Bless You Andrew!!

 

[Steven Wood]

When I die I don't know where I'm going to go. I have recently asked to God to let me know him etc but I do not fear God.
I am very laid back when this is meant to be a serious matter. I don't know if this is because I believe I suffer from depression and so maybe I'm numb to any feelings. It's like I know I should be saved but I'm not that interested and don't have the desire to have a relationship with God or anyone. I can't control my feelings so what do I do?

I actually have the same problem that you seem to have. it isn't really as much depression for me as it is having bad things in my past dictate how i look at society. I can tell you what my opinion is but you have to start this journey for your own reasons and come to your own opinions. I will say this and pray that it may help you in at least a small way. A relationship with the Lord is not based on fear or blind faith, its not even like any relationship you may have with any person. The word fear is not like what we use it as but more a deep respect and trust that whatever God tells us, its in our best interest and his selfless love for us. Even though GOD's ways are a mystery to us,ours are not to him through his son Jesus. He not only knows that man is not capable of trusting or respecting what we do not know, he never asks us to. It's through prayer and study. Not only study of his word, but study of science and history that will lead you to a conclusion. I do know that as long as you continue to think that a relationship with God has to be only one certain way, if you go into it thinking that you have to fall on your face,tremble, and automatically love God right away, and if you base what you think a right relationship is, on what you've heard and seen from other so-called "christians", you limit God, yourself, and any beliefs that you may come to have. I really pray that this may help.I am truly sorry for the lack and misuse of punctuation.

 

[LightLoveHope]

I haven't been online in a few weeks and just read this. Thank you for your reply. It described exactly how I felt. I feel like a disgusting piece of dirt who hates everyone, everything and myself. I need to realise that someone loves me.

I love you. I love you because I know you have an open door and are seeking Jesus to minister to your heart.

Depression is a strange word. Cut off from feeling so one just hurts is a better description.
It occurs because the competing emotions cannot resolve, so repression is the only answer.

When anyone says "I do not fear God" they are saying God is not part of their decision making priorities.

This verse applies
The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God.
All have turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.
Psalm 14:1-3

There is no fear of God before his eyes.
For in his own eyes he flatters himself too much to detect or hate his sin.
The words of his mouth are wicked and deceitful; he has ceased to be wise and to do good.
Psalm 36:1-3

If one hates ones own sin, and is aware of ones failing, there is fear of God within,
whether it is felt or not.

I fear God, because He is a blazing fire on a Holy mountain where I cannot go.
Only in Jesus have I a hope, to enter in and stand before my King, a servant,
redeemed and made whole, full of love that He planted, recipient of forgiveness
of my failure and joy in my heart that He is the source of life itself.

Knowledge of these realities takes time, a walk, cleansing, healing, redemption,
the Holy Spirit. But it is possible for anyone who is willing to listen and follow.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

When I die I don't know where I'm going to go. I have recently asked to God to let me know him etc but I do not fear God.
I am very laid back when this is meant to be a serious matter. I don't know if this is because I believe I suffer from depression and so maybe I'm numb to any feelings. It's like I know I should be saved but I'm not that interested and don't have the desire to have a relationship with God or anyone. I can't control my feelings so what do I do?

I know this is an old post but in case you are still reading it here you go...
"seek and you shall find" God may not let you know so best to seek Him first. This way He knows that you consider Him worthy. Also, fear does not mean scared it means respect.