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Yea, but it's not some rule where if you break it you go to hell. If you forget to pray tomorrow, what are the consequences? Have you forsaken god? Of course you haven't, you simply go back to praying the day after and it's as if nothing happened. So what's the difference if it's aday or a year? It's not going to matter to god...he's "timeless" after all, right?
Because my life wasn't very good before I started going to Church. There is a God sized hole without him and other believers.
That's not really the same.
Sadly, this is an example of the modern message of the gospel, the one that has been so watered down and compromised, comprised only of "God loves you and as a wonderful plan for your life. Come to Jesus and He will give you peace, joy and happiness" has literally led millions into a false conversion. The whole counsel of God - His holiness, His righteousness, His justice, His wrath against all sin on Judgment Day and the reality of hell - has been abandoned by the preaching of the modern gospel message of life enhancement. Now God is only seen as some benevolent Divine Butler, who is there in the Heavens to appease us and wait upon us hand and foot. In effect, they have committed idolatry and created a false god to suit their sins. And it is this false gospel that has been preached from behind so many pulpits that has resulted in what we now call ex-Christians. But according to Scripture, there really isn't such a person in the first place. A true and genuine Christian will never turn away from the faith and forsake God, only the false convert would do that. And that is biblical to its very core.
Another poster on this forum made a similar thread where he challenged all non-believers to attend church one Sunday.
A couple of hours one Sunday, and 8,760 hours, as in one year, does not strike me as being altogether on a par.
Without a very serious financial inducement, I find it difficult to imagine why I would spend a whole year doing anything I wouldn't otherwise do.
Sadly, this is an example of the modern message of the gospel, the one that has been so watered down and compromised, comprised only of "God loves you and as a wonderful plan for your life. Come to Jesus and He will give you peace, joy and happiness" has literally led millions into a false conversion. The whole counsel of God - His holiness, His righteousness, His justice, His wrath against all sin on Judgment Day and the reality of hell - has been abandoned by the preaching of the modern gospel message of life enhancement. Now God is only seen as some benevolent Divine Butler, who is there in the Heavens to appease us and wait upon us hand and foot. In effect, they have committed idolatry and created a false god to suit their sins. And it is this false gospel that has been preached from behind so many pulpits that has resulted in what we now call ex-Christians. But according to Scripture, there really isn't such a person in the first place. A true and genuine Christian will never turn away from the faith and forsake God, only the false convert would do that. And that is biblical to its very core.
Rubbish.
The intent of that post is not to accuse non-believers of being close minded, it is to encourage all people to make use of what already is. To have courage to express the truth. To speak openly and honestly. Not be afraid.
Sadly, this is an example of the modern message of the gospel, the one that has been so watered down and compromised, comprised only of "God loves you and as a wonderful plan for your life. Come to Jesus and He will give you peace, joy and happiness" has literally led millions into a false conversion. The whole counsel of God - His holiness, His righteousness, His justice, His wrath against all sin on Judgment Day and the reality of hell - has been abandoned by the preaching of the modern gospel message of life enhancement. Now God is only seen as some benevolent Divine Butler, who is there in the Heavens to appease us and wait upon us hand and foot. In effect, they have committed idolatry and created a false god to suit their sins. And it is this false gospel that has been preached from behind so many pulpits that has resulted in what we now call ex-Christians. But according to Scripture, there really isn't such a person in the first place. A true and genuine Christian will never turn away from the faith and forsake God, only the false convert would do that. And that is biblical to its very core.
First of all, no one can really know the spiritual state of a person, whether or not he /she is saved. We can pass a judgment on actions and be time wasting "fruit inpsectors", but that isn't productive.
A few more things. Who are these "millions" who have been led into "false conversions"? Can you provide that data?
Lastly, sure, a real Christian can abandon the faith and still be saved, because that is God's grace. And real Christians abandon the faith all the time, for a few months, sometimes for years. This doesn't mean they weren't real converts. It just means they're searching for answers to hard questions or they are simply doing what they want to do. In either case, this doesn't mean false convert. We shouldn't pass judgment on their standing with God.
You're implying that certain teachings / preachers are responsbile for millions on false converts, but you would have to be God to know who is a false convert and who is not.
What upsets me is that a suffering brother came to this thread and stated he wants to come back to the faith, and you implied that his reasons for wanting to return to the faith are invalid!
Since when do people fear the consequences of what they say online?
The good thing about Christians is, that they actually care for one another and don't pretend to be wise in their own eyes.
That's a rather vague statement. How do you know if your life deteriorated because you stopped going to church or if you stopped going to church because your life deteriorated?
ah, it warms the cockles of my heart to see such a kindly atheist expressing such tender concern. NAAAWWT
The good thing about Christians is, that they actually care for one another and don't pretend to be wise in their own eyes.
And there ya have it, the creedo of an atheist. This is a grand look into philosophy ...
Out of the 6 billion + people living on this planet, how many of them care about you and your problems? Not the ones that just pretend to care (like on the internet) but actually care?
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