I can't do this anymore

[Mrs. Luther073082]

I speak from experience when I say that no, sometimes, God can't bring you closer to Him without doing it the hard way.




"Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our spirits and live! Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in his holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it." --Hebrews 12:7-11

"And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you." -- 1 Peter 5:10

 

[dvd_holc]

But can't God bring you closer to him without ruining your life first? I mean I guess I've just never understood why he can't just send a sign, like in a dream or something to make us turn to him. It's a lot simpler and it probably makes the relationship in the long run right?

God can do many things. Tell me with your knowledge of predestination, what is the purpose of God? Is there responsiblity of individuals? And what do you do with this knowledge of his involvment in your life?

 

[hoplessss]

God can do many things. Tell me with your knowledge of predestination, what is the purpose of God? Is there responsiblity of individuals? And what do you do with this knowledge of his involvment in your life?

The purpose of God is really just the fact that he created us for his own entertainment. He just likes to look down from his throne and pick and choose his favorites randomly based on their looks and the brains hes given them. Like I said, people are just here for God's on personal entertainment so theres really no purpose unless you are one of the chosen ones. But since I am not a chosen one and since I have aquired the knowledge of the fact that I am predestined to a bad life and hell, I actualy feel a sense of relaxation because I don't have to worry about what I eat (I eat junkfood all the time) and healthcare and other things since I have no point and theres nothing I can do to change my destiny. The only let down is that I'll never get married or have any guys like me which is something I've always wanted, but thats the consequence of not being chosen.

And I know no one will want to agree with me, but you have to admit there is at least some, if not alot, of truth in what I'm trying to explain. And I dont necissarily think its defined in any religion...It's just something I figured out based on the things that have happened and what I've seen happen to others.

 

[inHisgripkim]

But can't God bring you closer to him without ruining your life first? I mean I guess I've just never understood why he can't just send a sign, like in a dream or something to make us turn to him. It's a lot simpler and it probably makes the relationship in the long run right?

Dear Earth Angel:

Here is my testimony and I pray that it helps. We love you.

The Sparrow



"Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows." Matthew 10: 29-31

Several years ago I was raped for the third time in my life. I had already accepted Jesus into my heart as my Lord and Savior and was a very young Christian prior to that last assault. I hit a low point after the assault, becoming severely depressed and dysfunctional. I flew out to Houston and was baptized. When I returned from Houston, I found a church and started attending bible study. We were studying The Gospel of Mathew when I was home alone and in an emotional slump. I was on my belly crying out to Jesus (cathartic sobbing). I told Jesus that I wasn't getting Him the way I should and I could feel the separation. I pleaded with Jesus to send me a sign or open my eyes and ears that I may receive His message to me. The very next day, I was pulling out of a store parking lot and a Sparrow fell out of a tree. I stopped the car and went to the Sparrow that was flapping around, unable to fly. I scooped the little bird in my hands and watched this precious creature from God take its last breath. I cried for a moment until I remembered the verses in Mathew that I had just learned in bible study about our value in God's eyes. I suddenly realized that was God's message to me.

After that experience, I started seeking the Lord in prayer, scripture, worship, and music. I looked for the Lord everywhere and in everything. About two weeks after the fall of the Sparrow, I was jogging and listening to a song "Praise to You." I started thinking back to that fallen Sparrow. As soon as I did, I felt something beneath my feet and I knew what it was before even looking down. When I did look down I witnessed my second fallen Sparrow.

Christmas was drawing near and I was watching a documentary on Jesus. I had learned that Jesus was born during the lambing season and not December 25th. When I went to bible study several days later, I opened my bible at random and started reading about the cleansing of Solomon's temple. King Ahaz had turned away from God and started worshipping other Gods and idols. Ahaz had boarded up the temple. When his son Hezekiah became king, he cleansed the Temple and made many cleansing sacrifices. When Pastor walked into the Sanctuary, I told him what I had learned about Jesus being born during the lambing season. Pastor said that was accurate but it made sense to celebrate His birth on December 25th because that's when Judah Maccabee recaptures Jerusalem and restores the Temple. I thought it was odd that I had just read about one cleansing of the Temple and Pastor mentioned a significant other. I felt again God was talking to me.

Christmas morning I spent gift exchange at my sisters. I went to the back bedroom for a short nap because I had to work that night. I was dreaming about this huge temple where people were singing praise. The temple was like the size of a residential block. I was awakened from the dream by one of my sisters who was cleaning (vacuuming/cleansing). I got up and went into the living room where my other sister was watching a documentary about Jesus. I sat down and tuned into the program at the very moment the program was giving a historical account of Solomon's temple. There on the TV was the remains of the Temple steps. I was floored. Temples at bible study, in my dream, and now at my sister's house Christmas morning. I felt compelled to read the bible so I went to my car to fetch mine. I sat out under the porch and read about Hezekiah again. While I was reading about the cleansing, I heard this bang against the window of the house. I looked over and there on the ground was a stunned Sparrow. I prayed at that moment to let that Sparrow live. I sat still and that Sparrow did not move for about five minutes. It then turned its head so its eye was on me. I sat still for about another five minutes. Family started calling me in for gift exchange. I stood up slowly and as I did, the Sparrow rose again and flew away.

I have chills when I recite this story. Pastor said that God is making me holy and that three Sparrows is a holy number. He felt God would not send any more. Jesus rose again in three days. "Oh Immanuel, God is with us."

May I encourage all to seek God in every breath and heartbeat, for this is when we hear God communicate to us. Don't let this world distract you from the Kingdom of Heaven and keep you separated from God. Stay connected to God and blessings unfold.

Amen
InHisgripKim

Three Rapes and then three Sparrows.
From bad to good.
From death to life.
From a wound to a pearl.

 

[dvd_holc]

The purpose of God is really just the fact that he created us for his own entertainment. He just likes to look down from his throne and pick and choose his favorites randomly based on their looks and the brains hes given them. Like I said, people are just here for God's on personal entertainment so theres really no purpose unless you are one of the chosen ones. But since I am not a chosen one and since I have aquired the knowledge of the fact that I am predestined to a bad life and hell, I actualy feel a sense of relaxation because I don't have to worry about what I eat (I eat junkfood all the time) and healthcare and other things since I have no point and theres nothing I can do to change my destiny. The only let down is that I'll never get married or have any guys like me which is something I've always wanted, but thats the consequence of not being chosen.

And I know no one will want to agree with me, but you have to admit there is at least some, if not alot, of truth in what I'm trying to explain. And I dont necissarily think its defined in any religion...It's just something I figured out based on the things that have happened and what I've seen happen to others.

For a person who believes the above statements...you seem to have a strong belief otherwise...

No, I don't find truth in your statements. I don't find it biblical, nor does it reflect the story of Jesus. You say God only has a purpose for chosen...but then you say that God has a purpose for the Devil...so which is it?

If God is about sitting on his throne and laughing at us...why send Jesus? Since Jesus is God, why die on a cross? Since Jesus is God and He said:
28“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”, why do you continue to belief that God is otherwise?

Have you actually discovered God or The Acusser?

I don't worship your god. I worship the God who holds every part of creation together, wants it to flow in his harmony, and has give us the responsiblity to spread his harmony to the creation. Humans are a reflection of his being in that we have a certain range of effective will. We can do with it as we choose....but you hate God because what humans have done with the talents he first gave them to use for harmony.

 

[allen_the_music_man]

but what if the devil is only tempting me because God sold my soul to him because he dislikes me sooo much...

Oh no! God has a love for you that no one on this earth can give! He has unconditional compassion and love for you! He'd NEVER sell your soul to Satan!

 

[FallingWaters]

But can't God bring you closer to him without ruining your life first? I mean I guess I've just never understood why he can't just send a sign, like in a dream or something to make us turn to him. It's a lot simpler and it probably makes the relationship in the long run right?

Well, it would be nice, wouldn't it.

We can't tell God what to do. He's God and we're not. This is the way He has designed it to work. When everything is going our way, we think we don't need God.

 

[FallingWaters]

Three Rapes and then three Sparrows.

definitely FallingWaters now

 

[dvd_holc]

definitely FallingWaters now

I agree.

 

[FallingWaters]

If God is about sitting on his throne and laughing at us...why send Jesus? Since Jesus is God, why die on a cross? Since Jesus is God and He said:
28“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”, why do you continue to believe that God is otherwise?

That makes a lot of sense.


Hoplessss,

Sometimes we keep wanting our own way so badly, that we just don't want to give it up. I guarantee you will be thankful for the day when you finally give up and let God have His way in your life.

You can have peace that surpasses all understanding, and joy that is unspeakable, and enjoy His beauty that is beyond description, but not until you humble yourself before Him.

Give up trying to control everything, and having everything your way. God has not predestined you to hell. I'm sure of it... so you better start eating right