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Umm yeah I have tried to commit suicide over 6 times and almost suceeded 5. I have had 19 boyfriends and all were Jerks. . . I have a partially abusive Father and My mom doesnt like me. . . she says im a worthless sl*t. They have locked me out of their house numerous times and sent me to Pshycyatrists because they say im abnormal and all my friends say my parents are the one that are screwed up. I dont make good grades and everytime i ask for a tutor they say tutors are for dumb people. I have been Raped and Harrased. I get beat up by a girl at school. My Friends say it will get better over time and it cant possibly get any worse. And every time they say that something bad happens. The only problem with my parents though is they only are mean to me when no ones watching. I dont know what to do my world is falling apart and i need help on trying to get everything together.
 
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Umm yeah I have tried to commit suicide over 6 times and almost suceeded 5. I have had 19 boyfriends and all were Jerks. . . I have a partially abusive Father and My mom doesnt like me. . . she says im a worthless sl*t. They have locked me out of their house numerous times and sent me to Pshycyatrists because they say im abnormal and all my friends say my parents are the one that are screwed up. I dont make good grades and everytime i ask for a tutor they say tutors are for dumb people. I have been Raped and Harrased. I get beat up by a girl at school. My Friends say it will get better over time and it cant possibly get any worse. And every time they say that something bad happens. The only problem with my parents though is they only are mean to me when no ones watching. I dont know what to do my world is falling apart and i need help on trying to get everything together.
PLZ I need Advice PLZ!!!
 
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hi kiddo,i see you have proclaimed that Christ does exist..i also see that your life is not what you would like it to be...perhaps you could try exploring what jesus said about the way that life can have more meaning and value.If you are unsure what its all about,there are bibles with red lettering for the words Jesus spoke.You might try starting with the book of Mathew and just reading the red letters.This is the bare bones version, and will give you a place to base furthur consideration/meditation.I have great hope for you as no one comes unto Jesus except that God will draw them to Him.There is a heavenly design that God has for your life and He will show you the way if you give Him the reins.My heart goes out to you,for 35 yrs i cared for a person who was mean to me in exactly the same way as you claim, so i know that it happens. You are not alone in suffering and for some things better only comes a little at a time as we gain knowledge and discernment.If you know He is there, the next thing to do is to try to contact Him.Reach out to Jesus and He will reach out to you.......itll surprise you...
 
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Virginiacowgirl09 said:
Umm yeah I have tried to commit suicide over 6 times and almost suceeded 5. I have had 19 boyfriends and all were Jerks. . . I have a partially abusive Father and My mom doesnt like me. . . she says im a worthless sl*t. They have locked me out of their house numerous times and sent me to Pshycyatrists because they say im abnormal and all my friends say my parents are the one that are screwed up. I dont make good grades and everytime i ask for a tutor they say tutors are for dumb people. I have been Raped and Harrased. I get beat up by a girl at school. My Friends say it will get better over time and it cant possibly get any worse. And every time they say that something bad happens. The only problem with my parents though is they only are mean to me when no ones watching. I dont know what to do my world is falling apart and i need help on trying to get everything together.
Hi Virginia, you have been through alot, I'm sorry. Thank you for sharing, I hope letting this out and talking will help. One thing without a doubt you are valued and loved in God eyes. He sees you as his precious child. Time is heading into eternity where life will be everything we want it to be, its just a matter of persevering in this world until the day the Lord calls us home. You've seen the worse in life but know God is by your side and he wants you to know him more and more. He will be the good nobody can take from you. Pour out your heart and problems and joys to God because he is real and he is listening. Talk to him about everything and pray for the situations in your life. We here will also pray for you. Read about Jesus in the bible, he truly knows the right path we should take and helps us to be a fulfilled human being, You are always welcome here, it can be alittle slow but I'm sure you will get a response, that's what this forum is about and if you like to respond to some of the other threads here, please feel free, God bless.
 
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Well I Feel Loved But Okay I Give Up
Virginia, never give up, let the Lord help you carry your cross, he will, he loves you and just take it one day at a time. Try not to get overburden, tell the Lord; Lord lets try to get through this day, help me in all situations that this day might bring. If your getting harassed at school, perhaps telling a school official, that just doesn't seem right. Anybody that hurts other people have big problems and definitely are not happy human beings, I'll pray for the situation. If a person keeps hurting people in life, like this person at school they really are endanger of hardening their hearts, where God's voice cannot penetrate, we don't want that to happen so we ask God to forgive us when we hurt others, pray she will see the light ,can't hurt.
 
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Hi Virginiacowgirl09,

I was at a bible study group today.. and we talked about the word believe...
Being a Christian simply is believing God and taking Him at His word.. Meaning we choose to believe in what He says.. We read what He says.. and follow it..

You have gone through so much in your young life.. But Praise God there is hope for you!!
Everything in the bible is truth... and if you follow the bible.. You can trust in it.. It will change your life.. and help guide you forward..

God is love ..... and ..... love never fails.. those are two promises that God gives us in His Word..
But there are so many more then that!!

In the bible we can read about so many lives completely transformed by believing in God and following Him.

But also here at CF you can read many many testimonies where God has changed people's lives!!
I would encouage you to search on here for the testimony section and read it!! There are many stories there of people and what they have come through.. both men and women.. young and old.. Many who might have been through some of what you have gone through!! There might be other sections where you can find them..

http://www.christianforums.com/f222-testimonies.html

To recieve help right now... wherever you are.. just look up and believe or pray.. You can use my words below.. but really anything you want to say.. from your heart to God is fine!!

Say God here I am.. You know everything about me.. You know how unhappy I am and how lost I feel.. I need You.. I want to believe in You... Help me right now to believe in You.. Help me in my situation.. in my life right where I am... I need hope.. and I want to believe that in You there is found hope.. I want to find You God.. Help me to find You.. amen

Then I encouage you... to get hold of a bible and start reading it whenever you can... daily is good.. the gospels are good.. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John... But as you read.. look up.. or pray... or talk to God.. and say.. Please help me to understand this Your word.. so that I might find all the answers I need for my life.. amen..

When You seek for God you will find Him.. and He will give you everything you need.. and most of all give you peace.. and joy... and help you to find your way forward.. Here are some precious promises that are 100% truth for you!!

Matthew 11:28
"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.


Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.


God bless you.. if you ever want to PM me and talk some you are most welcome..
 
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Dear Virginiacowgirl09,

My analysis and advice is as follows:

I. Analysis

I gather from your post that you are under the age of 18. Otherwise, if you were an adult, you would be living on your own away from your parents; and doubtfully, given the facts you have present, you would be in college, thus you would have no need for a tutor. (The "09" in your handle makes me think that you are a freshman in high school who will graduate in 2009; however this is simply speculation.)

If indeed, you are under 18, then the facts you have presented all the more demonstrate the urgent nature of your situation. For if you have, in fact, had 19 different boyfriends, then you have been desperately seeking love since a very early age.

Although I am not a psychologist, common sense and experience demonstrates that when a young girl (such as yourself) lacks positive reassurance from your earthly father, such a girl will look for it elsewhere. The fact that you have looked for 19 (as opposed to, say, three) boyfriends in such a short time indicates that you are extemely desperate for the love that your father has not provided.

Now, in fairness to your father, he may be trying to love you the best way he can. You say that he is "partially abusive;" this implies that he is also "partially not-abusive." To the degree, therefore, that he does not abuse you (and that degree may be minimal), he may actually love you; however, he may not know how to show you in a proper way. Regardless, either (a) he loves you and he does not know how to show you in a way by which you will understand, or (b) he doesn't love you. Although it is probably (a), either way this lack of communication creates a gap in your life.

This gap in your life was like a small snowball; the subsequent rejection that you have experienced from your "boyfriends" is like a much larger snowball.

Its a vicious cycle. Dad rejects you, so you go to Bobby (carrying the pain of rejection from Dad); because you so desperately want Bobby to love you, you try to please him in every way you can--but then he rejects you. So you go to Danny (this time with rejection from both Dad and Bobby) and you try even harder to please him--but he rejects you too. And so the cycle repeats itself over and over again.

Finally, you give up... you think that no one will ever love you, so you decide attempt suicide. Fortunately it fails.... but the shame that comes from a failed suicide attempt is a heavy burden. So now you are in even more pain.

Nevertheless, you are an intelligent girl. You are a Republican. (Note: I am not implying that Democrats are not intelligent; I am simply noting that for a girl your age to have formed any political opinion giving the nature of your situation is remarkable.) Oh no, you may not have good grades; given what you are going through, its amazing you have any grades! However, you are smart--you are smart enough (a) to ask for help, and (b) to come here for help.

Now that we have identified your problem, may we find the solution?

II. Solution

We shall examine the Biblical passage concerning the "First Tempation of Christ"

Matthew 4:1-10
1. Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.

2. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.

3. The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread."

4. Jesus answered, "It is written: ‘Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’ "

5. Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.

6. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: ‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’ "

7. Jesus answered him, "It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’ "

8. Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

9. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."

10. Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’ "


Notice the order of temptations in this passage:

1. First he is tempted to turn a stone to bread.
2. Then he is tempted to jump off the temple.
3. Then he is tempted to worship the devil.

In your situation, the only two temptations that are relevant are numbers 1 and 2.

For "forty days and forty nights" (which is a Jewish expression for a really, really long time), Jesus was alone in the wilderness. He had not eaten anything, and for this entire time, he was isolated from friends and family. Although a crowd of people had heard God speak from the sky and proclaim that Jesus was God's son (See Matthew 3), none of those people were there to remind Jesus of this fact. Therefore, not only was he lacking food, he was lacking reassurance--he was lacking the love of his peers.

Satan tempts him to turn a stone to bread, saying, "If you are the Son of God..." In addition to meeting his physical need for food, by turning the stone to bread, Jesus might get some reassurance from Satan concerning who he was. Both the need for food and reasurance made this a tempting offer.

Now, you will notice that nowhere in the Bible is there a prohibition against turning stones to bread. So even if Jesus had done this, He would not have sinned. So why did He instead respond with "Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God"?

Because He knew that if He gave Satan an inch, he would take a mile. At the end of the day, Jesus knew that the only validation that was worth anything was the validation that comes from God, not man (or in this case, Satan).

OK then, Satan bumped up the temptation a notch. He took him to the top of the temple--the holiest site in the whole country--and tempted him to jump, reminding him that the angels would catch him. If he did that, the scores of people down below would see this sight, drop to their knees, worship him, crown Him King, and he would never have to suffer again because they would never, ever crucify him after seeing such proof that he was the Son of God.

Now if Jesus had turned the stone to bread, he might have entertained the offer. If he couldn't handle the pain of isolation, how could he ever handle the pain of large-scale humiliation and rejection (i.e crucifixion)? However, by saying no to the bread of a stone, and instead saying yes to the Bread that came from God (i.e the word of God), Jesus had the strength of character to say no to Satan's offer.

Back to you.... In your case, for "forty days and forty nights" you have been without the love of a father. You have done everything in your power to turn a stone to bread (19 different boyfriends). To the extent that is has worked---to the extent that you have found some sense of affirmation--it has been short lived (because they turned out to be jerks). So now, you find yourself wanting a larger scale affirmation. So you have attempted suicide on multiple occasions--not so much because you really want to die, but because you wanted to get Mom and Dad's attention. You have never wanted to die; instead, you have been desperately wanting to live.

I believe that God has an important task for you to perform in your life. A big task. How do I know this? Because he has entrusted you with great suffering. There is something inside you that God wants to bring out--something unique about your character that must be brought forth in order to make a difference in this world. Will it hurt? Like you have never felt before. Will it get worse? In the short term, yes... But in the long term you will have something much more valuable. You will have the strength of character to lead.

Earlier this week, I had the chance to meet John Ashcroft, the former attorney general under President Bush. He spoke to my class at law school, and told us that a life without consequences is a life without meaning.

I think what he says is appropriate to you. Right now you think that your life is of no consequence. Therefore, you have no sense of meaning, of purpose.

However, when you find that meaning and purpose in the plan that God has for you, then you will understand the consequences of your actions (both good and bad) and you will have the strength of character to act accordingly.

Just look at the life of Abraham Lincoln. He lost his mother at a young age. Grew up dirt poor. Fell in love with a girl, who later died. Married a crazy woman who beat him senseless. (Yes, Lincoln was a battered husband.) Lost all but one of his children to disease. Failed at business. Yet he became President, and he led our nation through its most difficult hour.

In short, you need to embrace the isolation you now feel. Because it is in this period of isolation that God will speak things into your heart that will direct your steps for the rest of your life.

III. Prayer

Dear Lord, please reveal your love to this precious girl. Guard her heart and mind in your love, and protect her from the attacks of Satan. Give her insight into the plan and purpose for her life. And never let her go. Forgive her sins, and wash her in your blood. Teach her how to forgive, to let go of the past, and to grab hold of the future you have in store.

In Jesus name
 
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Virginiacowgirl09 said:
Umm yeah I have tried to commit suicide over 6 times and almost suceeded 5. I have had 19 boyfriends and all were Jerks. . . I have a partially abusive Father and My mom doesnt like me. . . she says im a worthless sl*t. They have locked me out of their house numerous times and sent me to Pshycyatrists because they say im abnormal and all my friends say my parents are the one that are screwed up. I dont make good grades and everytime i ask for a tutor they say tutors are for dumb people. I have been Raped and Harrased. I get beat up by a girl at school. My Friends say it will get better over time and it cant possibly get any worse. And every time they say that something bad happens. The only problem with my parents though is they only are mean to me when no ones watching. I dont know what to do my world is falling apart and i need help on trying to get everything together.

This testimony of yours is going to have the CF members soaking their keyboards as they weep while they type. There are a lot of good people here...Listen to their advice but hold a New Testament with one hand and make that your absolute rule and charter of liberty. Many of these members here have already been through their "hells" and are currently singing with joy in their hearts unto the Lord and you can too. Never doubt that. Your testimony sounds like something that an old Jew, (who was held captive as a slave in Egypt,) might have said just before Moses showed up with a, "Let My People Go!" command for all of God's enemies. He can get you off the hook from your present dilemma but you must both ask Him to help you and do it with such a heart and intention as though there was no other place to go. For our present perishing Earth, this is literally true. All of us really have only one hope, but that one hope of Christ is infinitely sufficient and cannot possibly fail us if we are careful to "Read the Instructions!" and those are found in the New Testament. I myself was saved out of an occult background and could tell you, but won't, stories that you wouldn't believe. He can do it for you. Hang unto that hope and don't let go for anything.
 
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Hi friend-
You've been getting lots of good advice here.

The biggest help will be trusting in Christ to pay for all your sins and trusting Him to get you to Heaven one day. Without relying on any good works or promises. Then you are eternally saved, and will have the Holy Spirit inside you to guide and comfort you. If you are not ready to make that decision, we would be glad to answer your questions.

Also, I'd like to deal with the suicide issue:
First of all, I am no professional – just one friend talking to another.



Hold on, friend. The Lord has plans for you, to give you hope and a future. (Jer. 29:11) All you have to do is sincerely seek Him. If you persevere, you will have those things. It’s His promise.


I am going to suggest various things that I KNOW will help. They don't need to be done all at once - just step by step, inch by inch.

If you feel like committing suicide again, please pray for help; then call 911 and they can connect you with the suicide prevention center. They can talk you through it.

There might also be something helpful on this site: http://depression.about.com.od/suicideprevent/

I have seen many, many people in similar situations as I lead Christian recovery groups. It is amazing what they can accomplish with God's help. That's why I recommend Christian counseling and recovery groups.

Please see a Christian counselor right away if you are not yet doing so. Large churches usually have someone, for example, and provide a sliding scale if finances are a problem. They will probably think you need medication for a time - be sure to tell them that you are having suicidal thoughts, as some medicines can cause problems. A church that believes the Bible is without error and is inspired by God is the best place to call - a conservative denomination.

And large churches also often have a Christian support group, which is free. This is very important - you need to be around others who have been where you are, and who are in some stage of Christian recovery. They can tell you what worked for them, and they base it all on the Bible. This is unbelievably helpful. It is very practical. You will see that you are just one of many - that you have reacted normally to the dysfunctional surroundings you experienced. (This is not blame-shifting, just history.)

Similarly, the Recovery forum at www.christianforums.com will be helpful for you, rooms such as General Struggles or Depression, and whatever else applies.

There is a bonus to all this pain, friend. As you recover, you will find that eventually you will be able to minister more deeply and widely than others who have not been through so much. See Isaiah 61, first half. You will have a ready-made ministry waiting right here for you at CF, unless the Lord leads you to a different one.

But right now you need to be healed. I want to also address the issue of feeling unworthy. If you are like most people who have been through things like you have, you probably have that problem. I felt that way until I was 42 - I felt guilty for breathing. Thank God I persevered - when I got the help I have been telling you about, things started to turn around right away.

I did not feel loved or accepted as a child. As a result, I became a people pleaser, trying desperately to be loved and accepted by others. Fortunately, it didn't work. I was saved at the age of 30, and then God began working on me, especially through Scripture, to undo the harm, and then to build me up. But I thought I had to do all the changing in my own strength, so I had a lot of failures. You can find out a lot more specifics, and I think it would help, if you read "Personal Testimony" in my website. The whole site is designed to help people like you, friend. Once I learned how to rely on God for my strength and needs, I have had victory over the past.

God, who is powerful enough to raise the dead, has the same power to keep you persevering. Ask Him to do it.

Please let me know if I can help, friend. I have been through many of the same things. God bless you and keep you.

Aloha in Jesus
 
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