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Hi All. I just wanted to say something I felt about God. In my life I have seen that the world is always doing one thing and people like us who may have problems with God are doing the other.

I am not saying that to offer a solution, but just an observation. I get that you might have a unique experience and God might have failed you, for sure that I understand because I too have been let down by God and questioned myself and asked what is it that I did wrong to deserve my fate.

Just to be clear though, God is to be treated a way, the world a way and us ourselves another completely different way. This is just unfinished business God is having and sometimes it helps to look at it that way.

I like to leave God alone and just do whatever the hell I want to do. Especially at the right time like when its night or when I know I have me time. I just go into a me me me mind set and just take care of my needs and not give two [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]s about God.

I've found that it helps. You don't fight with God or curse him out but you don't submit to him in that moment and then you can just take it easy and let life be what it is. You see God is God we are not and we should let that be true and not tamper with it.

If anything God becoming the source of your problems is what he expects. So just like any other tough guy or overseer you just have to overcome it. Not him, but it. Never blame God he honestly isn't mean he's just God and thats why we ought to be in awe of his majesty. He is GOD after all and we are just his people. The animals are his creation. The world is his creation. Everything belongs to him.

Just appreciate his majesty and take it one day at a time or one hour whatever you want to do. Free will got you to this point and free will is really what we ought to be mad at! haha
 
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God doesn't care though.
That is true.
He loves but he doesn't care.

If he cared well maybe he'd be like a real person human being.

He just takes on love and thats all we can deduce from him. Jesus knew that and thats why he gave himself up, out of love.

We can't stop a lion from killing, and we damn sure can't stop god from loving.

So it pains me to have to admit this, but just accept reality. I wish the best for all of you guys truly. I know life is not fair and stuff and that bad things are real and do happen.

Its just apart of life though and its true. Jesus is lord he knew it too. He loves us and I guess thats enough, right!?!

I love everyone here I do and I love myself and guess what I even love God with all my heart soul and my mind. HE IS AWESOME! LET HIM BE HIM AND JUST LOVE HIM DONT WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING!
 
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YOU GUYS TAKE CARE I LOVE YOU AND BE BLESSED GOD ISNT BAD MEAN OR EVIL HE WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU AND HE IS SO AMAZING I CAN SAY THAT WITH ALL MY LIFE HE IS NEVER MAD AT YOU GUYS HE IS JUST BEING GOD

so don't say to yourself god this god that

instead pray and worship and remember that he will never be who his haters say he is because that isn't what he made us to believe

GOD IS GOOD ALWAYS AND FOREVER AND HE WILL SURPRISE THOSE WHO NEED TO BE SURPRISED HAVE FAIIIITHHH
 
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Also praise the lord jesus.

Not because of personal reasons just out of worship. He died for y'all and for me. Many people who hate god can't come to grips with that. He was given up for us.

And he lives. he is alive. and he is our perfect priest. my god is alive today. and he will be alive forevermore.

just praise Jesus guys trust me I know in time you will understand. I pray your hearts change over and god encounters you and not only do I pray I know it will happen.

he won't forsake you and he only forsake his son, FOR YOU!!!
 
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I am saying all this to make it clear.

god works in his own time

so the world has no understanding on him

in all things just trust he is near and loves you and works on your behalf

the world isn't who we are rather we are of our Heavenly Father god almighty

let your hearts and minds be at peace with this message I know I am a random person but I believe you all will recover and come to fully know the love god has for you in store

JUST RECEIVE HIS GRACE

ITS GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING

I wouldn't say it if I was on the fence I have lived for 26 years on this planet now and no one has had my back like god lol
 
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I found 3 verses that bring down the “God loves everyone” theology down like a house of cards.
Malachi 1:2-3
I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, and I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons in the wilderness.

Romans 9:13
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
These verses imply that God does indeed hate some people. He likely hates me but I can’t do anything about it.

This phrase "Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated" is talking about how Jacob received the birthright even though Esau was the firstborn; God chose Jacob, and thus God's covenant promises are made with Jacob's children: Israel; rather than Esau's children: Edom.

Edom was an ancient nation, and their patriarch was believed to have been Esau. The Edomites were eventually absorbed into the Jewish nation during the Maccabean period through a forced conversion to Judaism. The Herodians (e.g. Herod the Great), for example, were Edomites (Idumeans).

It has nothing to do with God having antipathy against the individual Esau, or God having antipathy against every Edomite.

But Paul uses this: God's elective choice to make Jacob the chosen son rather than Esau, to illustrate his larger point. Paul is dealing with two things here:

1) How the majority of his Jewish kinsmen have not come to faith in the Messiah, but have rejected Him; and

2) God has opened up the gate for the Gentiles to enter into the Household through faith in the Messiah.

This is part of the larger theme of Romans, which can be found in Paul's thesis statement for the epistle: "I am not ashamed of the Gospel, for it is is the power of God to save all who believe, the Jew first and also the Greek; for by it the justice of God is revealed from faith to faith; just as it is written, 'The just shall live by faith.'" (Romans 1:16-17).

To that end, the Apostle weaves together two streams of thought: The universality of sin and death for both Jew and Gentile, and therefore also the universality of the Gospel for both Jew and Gentile, through faith in the Messiah.

So, for example, in the first chapter of Romans Paul speaks about the "obvious sin" of the Gentiles, about how even though God's power and wisdom is on display in creation, the Gentiles instead took to worshiping the creation rather than the Creator, falling into idolatry and all manner of sin. Paul is, in a sense, leading here, he is leading so that his readers (especially his Jewish Christian readers) all nod their heads in agreement showing their own prejudice and hypocrisy. Paul immediately flips the script, and points out that his readers are just as guilty, "For you do the very same things". Why does Paul do this? Because Paul is leading up to the fact that everyone, regardless of whether they are a devout Torah-observant Jew or a heathen Pagan, is condemned and guilty under the Law--"All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:21)

Paul then guides his readers to recognize this universal condemnation of sin under the Law, and why therefore the Law cannot justify anyone; and so Paul actually goes to the time before the giving of the Torah to Abraham, and speaks of how Abraham was justified by faith, "Abraham had faith and it was reckoned to him as righteousness" (Romans 4:3).

So how is the sinner (and we have established that all are sinners), then, justified before God? Paul answers this by pointing to Christ, and to faith in Christ. It is through faith in God's Messiah that the sinner is justified. See the entirety of Romans chapter 5. Paul then addresses how through our baptism we have been united to Christ in His death and resurrection (Romans 6:3-4), and therefore are to now see ourselves dead to sin and alive to God (Romans 6:11); we are to struggle against the old man who is put to death and walk in new obedience. In Romans 7 Paul talks about this struggle more emphatically. How we wrestle against the law of sin and death that remains in our bodily members, even as we desire to do good; and as wretches we can give thanks to Christ alone who has saved us (Romans 7:24-25). This leads to Romans 8, where Paul announces how in Jesus we are not condemned, we who have died to sin who though continued to wrestle and struggle against the sin of our flesh, by God's grace, are not condemned--but are predestined in Christ to the glorious hope which we now have: Just as God raised Jesus from the dead, so God is going to do the same for us (Romans 8:11), in fact God is going to do this for all creation, for all creation itself suffers under sin an death and groans in labor pains for the freedom of new creation.

Now Romans 9. About how not all who are Israel by blood are Israel by faith, about how God chose Jacob rather than Esau. Is this an indication of injustice on God's part, or is God being inconsistent? No, Paul says, as he points to where God says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy" (keep this in mind).

Turn to Romans 10 and 11, the Apostle speaks about how ALL who call on the name of the Lord will be saved, how none shall be put to shame if they have faith in the Messiah. Through the preaching of the Gospel God works and creates faith (Romans 10:17), and the unbelief of the unbelieving Jews while cutting them off from God's covenant promises in the Messiah, also means that God can show forth His power by calling the Gentiles. Some natural branches have been pruned from the olive tree, and wild ones grafted on.

Now to how Paul brings it all together:

"Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,

'The Deliverer will come from Zion, He will banish the ungodliness from Jacob';
'and this will be My covenant with them when I take away their sins.'

As regards the Gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, so they too now have been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy. For God has consigned all to disobedience, that He may have mercy on all.

Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and how inscrutable His ways!

'For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been His counselor?'
'Or who has given a gift to Him that He might be repaid?'

For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be glory forever. Amen.
" - Romans 11:25-36

See then this: For God chose Jacob and not Esau. Israel, not the Gentiles. And here, though Jacob has stumbled, and the Gentiles are brought in, it does not mean God is faithless to Jacob. Rather here God fulfills all His faithfulness: For the Gospel goes forth to Israel, to Edom, to the Greeks, to the Scythians, the Romans, the barbarians, to all: Circumcised and uncircumcised, Jew and Greek, slave and free, male and female.

God will reconcile all people. The nations shall come to Mt. Zion (Isaiah 2:2-4). God declared in ancient times that Egypt and Assyria would be His, with Israel (Isaiah 19:24-25).

God fulfills His promise, through Jesus the Messiah, so that Jew and Gentile, and indeed the whole world of lost sinners, are the objects of His affection.

He has had mercy on you, therefore He will have mercy on all.

For Christ who has died died for all, tasting the death of everyone (Hebrews 2:9), for His atoning death is not for us who believe only, but for the whole world (1 John 2:2).

Romans 9:13 does not mean God doesn't love everyone; just the opposite.

God loves everyone, and this is made evident in the fact that He loves you, yes even you, O wretch and sinner. It is the love with which He loves you that shows forth His mercy upon all wretches, all sinners, on all of us. Without exception. Because you were Esau, and so am I. For He has mercy on Jacob and Esau.

Christ died for you.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Hey I’ve been gone for a while I have some good news! Early last month I found a gospel tract on the floor at my job and later last month a man asked me if I knew Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior I said “no, but I’m beginning to see a light”. He replied “ do it this week, we don’t know how much time we have left.” Tomorrow is never promised, not even another moment.
 
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Hey I’ve been gone for a while I have some good news! Early last month I found a gospel tract on the floor at my job and later last month a man asked me if I knew Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior I said “no, but I’m beginning to see a light”. He replied “ do it this week, we don’t know how much time we have left.” Tomorrow is never promised, not even another moment.

That's good, and absolutely right.

Does this mean that you now don't believe that God hates you?
 
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I found 3 verses that bring down the “God loves everyone” theology down like a house of cards.
Malachi 1:2-3
I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, and I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons in the wilderness.

Romans 9:13
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
These verses imply that God does indeed hate some people. He likely hates me but I can’t do anything about it.
Actually, God hates sin.
If you read the story of Jacob and Esau it's about the character of each of the brothers.
Esau sold his birthright to his brother for one meal.

Here's the story in summary:
 
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