Hyper-grace: then and now

[tonychanyt]

Today, we have Christians who teach hyper-grace:

The term hyper-grace has been used to describe a new wave of teaching that emphasizes the grace of God to the exclusion of other vital teachings such as repentance and confession of sin. Hyper-grace teachers maintain that all sin, past, present, and future, has already been forgiven, so there is no need for a believer to ever confess it. Hyper-grace teaching says that, when God looks at us, He sees only a holy and righteous people. The conclusion of hyper-grace teaching is that we are not bound by Jesus’ teaching, even as we are not under the Law; that believers are not responsible for their sin; and that anyone who disagrees is a pharisaical legalist.

The idea is not new. Back in the days of Paul, Romans 3:

8 Why not say, as some slanderously claim that we say, "Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is deserved!

Romans 6:

1 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?

Jude 4:

4 For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Hyper-grace teaches that all sin has already been forgiven, eliminating the need for confession or repentance. This view contradicts biblical teachings, which emphasize repentance as a continual process and warn against using grace as a license to sin (Romans 6:1-2; Jude 4). Repenting is not a one-time event but an ongoing practice that aligns believers with God's will and reflects the transformative power of His grace.

 

[Hoping2]

Today, we have Christians who teach hyper-grace:


The idea is not new. Back in the days of Paul, Romans 3:


Romans 6:


Jude 4:


Hyper-grace teaches that all sin has already been forgiven, eliminating the need for confession or repentance. This view contradicts biblical teachings, which emphasize repentance as a continual process and warn against using grace as a license to sin (Romans 6:1-2; Jude 4). Repenting is not a one-time event but an ongoing practice that aligns believers with God's will and reflects the transformative power of His grace.

Perhaps you can illustrate how repentance is anything like a continuous process ?
If one repents of, say, smoking or lying, they don't smoke or lie anymore !

 

[BelieveItOarKnot]

Today, we have Christians who teach hyper-grace:


The idea is not new. Back in the days of Paul, Romans 3:


Romans 6:


Jude 4:


Hyper-grace teaches that all sin has already been forgiven, eliminating the need for confession or repentance. This view contradicts biblical teachings, which emphasize repentance as a continual process and warn against using grace as a license to sin (Romans 6:1-2; Jude 4). Repenting is not a one-time event but an ongoing practice that aligns believers with God's will and reflects the transformative power of His grace.

Let's face it. Paul taught it both ways.

For example, in 2 Cor. 5:19 he states that God is "not counting" people's sins against them. Seems like the board is swept clean on this count.

Yet, among other citings, Paul claims to be the chief of sinners using the present tense term "I am" in 1 Tim. 1:15. Paul also claimed evil was present with him, in his own mind, and that he was never ridden of it. Romans 7:7-13, Romans 7:17-21.

So we do have a couple of positions to juggle on this subject with Paul, such as:

Is it possible to be entirely forgiven (ritualistic exercises notwithstanding) and be the chief of sinners, present tense?

I'd suggest very strongly that answer is yes. It's beyond any doubt to me after more than 4 decades of believing.

Where everyone stumbles on this subject is by only seeing themselves in the equation as individuals.. The fact of the matter is, we are always engaged in a wrestling match with the tempter (and or his own) internally. So there is a whole nother side to the equation.

People are entirely forgiven and always have been.

For the devil and his messengers, not so much at all. In fact the exact opposite.

The basic lesson here is that 2 truths, diametrically opposite and opposed to each other does exist in the scriptures.

Spinning it on only 1 side of the equation never will pan out or yield the truth of the matters

All the confession, repentance/contrition and communion in the world will never get the tempter, the evil present within us, off the hook, ever. Thinking it's so means we are simply deceived on the subject matter. Doesn't mean those who are deceived go to hell either. They have just been typically waylaid by our adversary. It's quite easy to wipe away that fact simply because we never see what hits us. We falsely think the whole enchilada is good when it never was to start with.

 

[timf]

Perhaps some clarity might be helpful. For example, if you were to argue against Catholicism, you perhaps should identify what type of Catholicism you are arguing against, Latin mass, charismatic, people's liberation, or traditional.

"Hyper-grace" is not a term one would expect from those who believe that God's grace is sufficient.

One would not expect to be seen themselves by God as guilt free except that as we are in Christ God sees the innocence of Christ having been placed in Christ.

Seeing a gospel of the kingdom as for the nation of Israel distinct from the gospel of individual salvation for the gentiles is a biblical position.

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

Those who position themselves in hostility against those they call "hyper" often claim that the teachings of Jesus are disregarded. However, it is more accurate to say that what Jesus told those in Israel about their expected earthly kingdom does not bear directly on us today.

The idea of perpetual confession and repentance to achieve salvation is a position in contrast to the once saved always saved. position. It also introduces a component of works to salvation.