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JLR - that was a great post.

An other perspective I like to give in parallel with what you have said is what Paul talks about in Phil. He says that he would count all this law stuff as dung that he might know Christ. I noticed years ago that I could even get so involved in knowing Christian doctrine that I wasn't spending time knowing Christ. There is an intellectual knowing of Christian theology that while very good and beneficial isn't really a relationship with Christ. So I say study all those good Biblical ideas and know Christ personally as well.
 
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According to scripture he who falls back into iniquity after being saved are not saved any more unless they
repent but if a man repent 2x after receiving the faith he is hardened and it is unlikely for him to return!
Don't take it for granted
God will have to force you to repent through loss or pain in a way as to force you to feel guilty one way or another if not for your sin the for what your sin will do to others you love!
Pharos lost his son and he wasn't turned he was hardened!

some passages to read on this!


For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them
2 Peter‬ [bless and do not curse]2‬:[bless and do not curse]20-21‬ KJV


For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame
Hebrews‬ [bless and do not curse]6‬:[bless and do not curse]4-6‬ KJV



But jesus gives us the gift of faith through his word if we live in the word it will live in us to righteousness !

We had to repent / confess out sins for blood offerings in the OT the same is true now when we come to CHRIST and allow are sins to be washed in his blood.

For if they cover current or you're assuming to sin again " future sins the bible is the Made wrong

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God
Romans‬ [bless and do not curse]3‬:[bless and do not curse]25‬ KJV

If you don't read the entire passage you can't
Comment in any of it on OP

By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul

Hebrews‬ [bless and do not curse]10‬:[bless and do not curse]10, 14, 16-20, 22-23, 26-28, 38-39‬ KJV
 
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2 Peter 2 The Scriptures (ISR 1998)
18For speaking arrogant nonsense, they entice – through the lusts of the flesh, through indecencies – the ones who have indeed escaped from those living in delusion,

19promising them freedom, though themselves being slaves of corruption – for one is a slave to whatever overcomes him.

20For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of the Master and Saviour יהושע Messiah, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the first.

21For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the set-apart commanda delivered unto them.

22For them the proverb has proved true, “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “A washed sow returns to her rolling in the mud.”2 Peter 2 The Scriptures (ISR 1998)

Hebrews 6 The Scriptures (ISR 1998)
1Therefore, having left the word of the beginning of the Messiah, let us go on to perfection,a not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of belief toward Elohim,

2of the teaching of immersions, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of everlasting judgment.

3And this we shall do, if Elohim indeed permits.

4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Set-apart Spirit,

5and have tasted the good Word of Elohim and the powers of the age to come,

6and fall away, to renew them again to repentance – having impaled for themselves the Son of Elohim again, and put Him to open shame.a

Romans 3 The Scriptures (ISR 1998)
24being declared right, without paying, by His favour through the redemption which is in Messiah יהושע,

25whom Elohim set forth as an atonement, through belief in His blood, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His tolerance Elohim had passed over the sins that had taken place before,

26to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He is righteous and declares righteous the one who has belief in יהושע.

Hebrews 10 The Scriptures (ISR 1998)
10By that desire we have been set apart through the offering of the body of יהושע Messiah once for all.
 
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