Husband no longer believes in God, Should I divorce him?

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In what ways does he make you unhappy?
I am saying, if I can't find ways to love him again, I will continue to be unhappy. I have spoken to my husband about christian marriage counseling, but he doesn't want to go.

I guess at the end of the day love is not everything in a marriage...
 
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I am saying, if I can't find ways to love him again, I will continue to be unhappy. I have spoken to my husband about christian marriage counseling, but he doesn't want to go.

I guess at the end of the day love is not everything in a marriage...

May I ask 'why' he doesn't want to go to counseling? And what particular issues are causing your husband to 'feel' that Christianity if false?
 
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If things do not change, It just seems so hard to be unhappy for the rest of my life. Is that all my life will be? Unhappiness to make sure my husband is happy?
Some times. But there are moments of happiness. There is Christ. That is how I experience it. And even if things are not 100% great. There's still little things. Giving him a hug, going out for a coffee date, watching TV. Little things. He's like a little child who needs someone big and brave and loving to take his hand, and lead him home. You're that someone. God loves you, dear. And He loves your husband, too.
 
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If things do not change, It just seems so hard to be unhappy for the rest of my life. Is that all my life will be? Unhappiness to make sure my husband is happy?
You are only age 25 and you have not been married that long yet. Give it some time before you get overly discouraged. Things could get better.
 
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May I ask 'why' he doesn't want to go to counseling? And what particular issues are causing your husband to 'feel' that Christianity if false?

He believes that It's false because we don't have free thinking, it's just the way we were brought up and we never questioned it. He'll say things like "If you weren't raised christian, you would have never been christian in the first place". When I come from church and explained how a part of the sermon touched my spirit, he doesn't believe me, and believes that when people get happy in church and cry, that they are "putting on for other people" because that's what we think we are supposed to do. He also believes that portions of The Bible are too absurd and crazy to be true, and technically can't be real because they don't make sense. He also no longer believes in having faith in something that he can't physically see to be real.

He said that going to christian counseling isn't going to change his way of thinking because that's what they are supposed to do, try to persuade you to thinking the way they do, and believes that it would be biased for us to go because I also am a christian like the counselor.
 
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BACKSTORY: I have grown up Christian and in the church all of my life so has my husband. We met in high school and he has been the only person I ever dated. Ever. I began to have feelings of doubt. I wasn’t sure if I was still in love with him and I wanted to explore on my own, and figure out who I was as a person individually because I was in college at the time. I pushed it aside because even though I wasn’t happy, I didn’t want to hurt his feelings because I knew how much he loved and cared for me.We had been together since we were 15 and at this point I was 21. I ended up pregnant and felt that I had no choice but to be with him then because I wanted our daughter to grow up the way I did, in a 2 parent home. Shortly after, he proposed and I said yes as to not disappoint our families and him. During our engagement period I cried, a lot . I wasn’t happy and wanted out of the engagement. I kept telling myself this is what God wants for me and to suck it up. We got married, and I have tried to suck it up because my husband is an awesome husband and an amazing father.

Now:About 2 months after getting married, my husband tells me that he no longer believes in Jesus and The Bible, and is really questioning Christianity and God as a whole. We are trying to work through this but he is very condescending when I try to offer solutions to help us. He says he is confused and lost, and doesn’t know what is right and what is wrong.

This is actually a case that I think could go both directions.

1) I agree with the others that posted the don't divorce him stuff from the Bible etc.

2) But in talking about this issue with a friend I have some other insight on the positive side of divorce.

A) One issue is the well being of your child and any children born in your family. The husbands condescension etc. can be bad for them and their faith.

B) I spoke to my friend about the Canon laws of his Church justifying divorce. They have 7 reasons that justify it, one of those that I think might apply to you is essentially a spiritual form of fraud. In looking at your back story it seems to me highly likely that your husband hid his doubts from you prior to getting hitched if he this is true then that would constitute fraud, because you entered into this covenant in bad faith on his part, not knowing the true situation of things.
 
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When I come from church and explained how a part of the sermon touched my spirit, he doesn't believe me, and believes that when people get happy in church and cry, that they are "putting on for other people" because that's what we think we are supposed to do. He also believes that portions of The Bible are too absurd and crazy to be true, and technically can't be real because they don't make sense. He also no longer believes in having faith in something that he can't physically see to be real.

He said that going to christian counseling isn't going to change his way of thinking because that's what they are supposed to do, try to persuade you to thinking the way they do, and believes that it would be biased for us to go because I also am a christian like the counselor.

So you've self justified your desires? When God asked Eve about the fruit he said it was Eve's fault. Mankind has been doing it ever since.
 
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He believes that It's false because we don't have free thinking, it's just the way we were brought up and we never questioned it.
Well.............in some churches there is a limit on just how 'free' one is to explore or question the existing articulation of biblical interpretation. So, in that regard, your husband may be at least partially correct, but it wouldn't by necessity imply that your church is at fault in placing unnecessary limitations upon how we each approach and apply our faith in Christ.

He'll say things like "If you weren't raised christian, you would have never been christian in the first place".
He is correct that this can be the case. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a total argument and it doesn't apply, by far, to all Christians everywhere. There are people who have lived in certain cultural conditions not favorable to gaining Christian faith (such as in a Muslim culture), but they have become Christians nevertheless. There are also other considerations that mediate the totality of this half-truth that your husband presently believes.

When I come from church and explained how a part of the sermon touched my spirit, he doesn't believe me, and believes that when people get happy in church and cry, that they are "putting on for other people" because that's what we think we are supposed to do.
That's another half-truth on his part. Some people are hypocrites; but some Christians do genuinely become touched and express their emotions in church. So, he doesn't get to pontificate any finality on that issue either.

He also believes that portions of The Bible are too absurd and crazy to be true, and technically can't be real because they don't make sense.
He needs to admit that not all Christians----not even all conservative Christians----interpret the bible in the same way or assume that what it says is precisely only what it could "mean" in some instances. He really needs to increase his academic integrity in this regard, because if this is what he is thinking, it means he hasn't actually delved into the full weight of all of the academic issues involved. And some of them get pretty deep and heavy and the typical skeptics and atheists, despite their claims, don't always delve into the issues as honestly and as precisely as they like to claim they do.

He also no longer believes in having faith in something that he can't physically see to be real.
Well then, I guess he can't believe in the Higgs Boson either, since no one can actually "see" them.

He said that going to christian counseling isn't going to change his way of thinking because that's what they are supposed to do, try to persuade you to thinking the way they do, and believes that it would be biased for us to go because I also am a christian like the counselor.
In this case, he would be half right (again). But this doesn't squelch the other part of reality that some of the counselors can apply methods of modern counseling and psychology to try to help the two of you to build a new form of relationship together.

With all of this said, I would first encourage your husband to expand his academic integrity beyond his present lines of perceptual and cognitive delineation and perhaps at least try to understand the Christian faith through other avenues besides just the one at the local church. Try to hang in there for a while with him. I may still be a bit early to throw in the towel.

What we need to find out is that his 'disbelief' really is coming about because he has honest doubts and not because he's lying and really trying to cover over some situation like being addicted to porn or having another women on the side somewhere.

To what extent do you think you're willing to 'wait' on him to explore other avenues of the Christian faith and perhaps grow? Would you be willing to remain with him if he could become a Christian again, even if of another denominational stripe?
 
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This is actually a case that I think could go both directions.

1) I agree with the others that posted the don't divorce him stuff from the Bible etc.

2) But in talking about this issue with a friend I have some other insight on the positive side of divorce.

A) One issue is the well being of your child and any children born in your family. The husbands condescension etc. can be bad for them and their faith.

B) I spoke to my friend about the Canon laws of his Church justifying divorce. They have 7 reasons that justify it, one of those that I think might apply to you is essentially a spiritual form of fraud. In looking at your back story it seems to me highly likely that your husband hid his doubts from you prior to getting hitched if he this is true then that would constitute fraud, because you entered into this covenant in bad faith on his part, not knowing the true situation of things.
It is also true that some people can loose faith, doubt things, and have a change of heart for the worse, theologically, over the course of their adult lives. It is very tough, but I still don't see this as a valid reason for divorce. There is no physical abuse, cruelty, or adultery. Just a husband who seems to have given up, but can still be saved. I would hang in there. I won't pretend that's an easy option, but God does give us strength, help, grace, and moments of joy, even in a difficult marriage.
 
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He believes that It's false because we don't have free thinking, it's just the way we were brought up and we never questioned it. He'll say things like "If you weren't raised christian, you would have never been christian in the first place". When I come from church and explained how a part of the sermon touched my spirit, he doesn't believe me, and believes that when people get happy in church and cry, that they are "putting on for other people" because that's what we think we are supposed to do. He also believes that portions of The Bible are too absurd and crazy to be true, and technically can't be real because they don't make sense. He also no longer believes in having faith in something that he can't physically see to be real.

He said that going to christian counseling isn't going to change his way of thinking because that's what they are supposed to do, try to persuade you to thinking the way they do, and believes that it would be biased for us to go because I also am a christian like the counselor.

And this statement really add to the fraud end of it. How a person can shift this much and that fast without a person realizing it. It's classic bait and switch. All done so the person can be unequally yoked because the husband knew deep down that was a deal breaker.
 
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It is also true that some people can loose faith, doubt things, and have a change of heart for the worse, theologically, over the course of their adult lives. It is very tough, but I still don't see this as a valid reason for divorce. There is no physical abuse, cruelty, or adultery. Just a husband who seems to have given up, but can still be saved. I would hang in there. I won't pretend that's an easy option, but God does give us strength, help, grace, and moments of joy, even in a difficult marriage.

But the husbands behavior towards his wife can fit into abuse depending on the level of severity. Abuse can be psychological, besides being physical.


I will add that much of the teaching in the NT on divorce is against the backdrop of what was going on in second temple Judaism where the rabbis suggested that men could divorce their wives for anything they did that displeased them!
 
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But the husbands behavior towards his wife can fit into abuse depending on the level of severity. Abuse can be psychological, besides being physical.


I will add that much of the teaching in the NT on divorce is against the backdrop of what was going on in second temple Judaism where the rabbis suggested that men could divorce their wives for anything they did that displeased them!
I don't see his behavior as abusive. At all. Which is a term, frankly, that I find is grossly overused these days. Anything and everything that one finds unpleasant, difficult, or counter to one's will / wishes is now supposed to be abuse. I don't buy that. And see it as an excuse to skip out of marriages which are not, at all, actually abusive.
 
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I will add that much of the teaching in the NT on divorce is against the backdrop of what was going on in second temple Judaism where the rabbis suggested that men could divorce their wives for anything they did that displeased them!
Trying to reduce Christ's commandments to cultural relativism is a bad idea.
 
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Hello all! This is my first post as I have been searching for advice from people who do not personally know me, so that I can see things from a different perspective.Please help me as I have a lot of inner turmoil going on and my spirit is very chaotic right now.

BACKSTORY: I have grown up Christian and in the church all of my life so has my husband. We met in high school and he has been the only person I ever dated. Ever. I began to have feelings of doubt. I wasn’t sure if I was still in love with him and I wanted to explore on my own, and figure out who I was as a person individually because I was in college at the time. I pushed it aside because even though I wasn’t happy, I didn’t want to hurt his feelings because I knew how much he loved and cared for me.We had been together since we were 15 and at this point I was 21. I ended up pregnant and felt that I had no choice but to be with him then because I wanted our daughter to grow up the way I did, in a 2 parent home. Shortly after, he proposed and I said yes as to not disappoint our families and him. During our engagement period I cried, a lot . I wasn’t happy and wanted out of the engagement. I kept telling myself this is what God wants for me and to suck it up. We got married, and I have tried to suck it up because my husband is an awesome husband and an amazing father.

Now:About 2 months after getting married, my husband tells me that he no longer believes in Jesus and The Bible, and is really questioning Christianity and God as a whole. We are trying to work through this but he is very condescending when I try to offer solutions to help us. He says he is confused and lost, and doesn’t know what is right and what is wrong.

I know this sounds cruel, but I want to use this as an excuse to divorce and no longer be married to him. I’ve wanted to leave since I was 21, but I didn’t want to hurt his feelings and he was all I’ve ever known, I have become comfortable with him.I was afraid of something new and I was afraid of change. I believe I grew up so early and did not get a chance to truly live my life as a young adult. Does this make me a selfish & unchristian person? Do I stay and accept my decisions ? I am 25 by the way.
“They would say,” he answered, “that you do not fail in obedience through lack of love, but have lost love because you never attempted obedience” - CS Lewis That Hideous Strength
 
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you have no biblical grounds to divorce your husband and are bound to him until death.

no one can stop you from doing what you choose to do, but if you're looking for some kind of biblical justification for severing the marriage, there is none.
 
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my mother and father have been married over 30 years, and she tells me she regrets not living her life before getting married. (She got married and became a mother right after high school) She has always been a housewife and never worked and has always depended on my father. And she never wanted that for me. She always would tell me to go to college, have fun, get a good job and be an independent woman before settling down and having children. I clearly didn't listen to her until I got into college, but it was too late as that was when I found out I was pregnant.

Of course, I want what is best for my daughter but Maybe it's not even that I want to be committed to other people, I just want to have independence and control over my life. I want to be happy and experience life like a 25 year old. I don't want regrets like my mother.

Your mother's regrets are her choice. You don't have to regret if you don't want to. Independent women are not necessarily happy, and if anything it Scripture calls on us to be independent I'm certainly not aware of it. Actually they're not that independent either. There are always going to be demands on you whether they come from a husband or a boss. I think you're romanticizing single life. It's not glamorous as you think. Especially when you have a child to take care of.
 
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I just want to have independence and control over my life.
What would you do with it?

He believes that It's false because we don't have free thinking, it's just the way we were brought up and we never questioned it. He'll say things like "If you weren't raised christian, you would have never been christian in the first place".
He fails to consider those who convert. Furthermore, this has no bearing on whether or not Christianity is true.

When I come from church and explained how a part of the sermon touched my spirit, he doesn't believe me, and believes that when people get happy in church and cry, that they are "putting on for other people" because that's what we think we are supposed to do.
Some will do that, but you know and I know that doesn't explain everybody who is emotionally impacted in church.

He also believes that portions of The Bible are too absurd and crazy to be true, and technically can't be real because they don't make sense. He also no longer believes in having faith in something that he can't physically see to be real.
Not everything that is true will make sense to everyday people. Furthermore, there is much that is real that he cannot physically see. For instance, he can't physically see the basis for discounting what he cannot physically see, it's a logical principle. Yet he seems to have a lot of faith in it.

He said that going to christian counseling isn't going to change his way of thinking because that's what they are supposed to do, try to persuade you to thinking the way they do, and believes that it would be biased for us to go because I also am a christian like the counselor.
Well, there's always a bias with marital counseling. The counselor will be either male or female.
 
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