Hunting Dinosaurs

JohnEmmett · Jul 16, 2022

I mean the CIA was interested and knows

https://www.cia.gov/

This should give you pause

Bungle_Bear · Jul 16, 2022

JohnEmmett said:
I mean the CIA was interested and knows

https://www.cia.gov/

This should give you pause

Mars Attacks!

JohnEmmett · Jul 16, 2022

Bungle_Bear said:
Mars Attacks!

youtube.com/watch?v=s6fWUA6_odc&t=188s

Mars in a Past Life

Bradskii · Jul 16, 2022

To maintain my tenuous grip on reality, I am unsubscribing from this thread.

JohnEmmett · Jul 16, 2022

Bradskii said:
To maintain my tenuous grip on reality, I am unsubscribing from this thread.

I understand

jayem · Jul 16, 2022

Lost4words said:
I used to believe in an old earth. I dont now.

As a 6 year old, I believed Bible stories. As a 12 year old, I began to realize they were fairy tales. Now 50+ years later, and I’m more convinced of this than ever.

Though I agree with one thing Paul wrote: When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child. But when I became a man, I put away childish things.

JohnEmmett · Jul 16, 2022

jayem said:
I believed Bible stories … I began to realize they were fairy tales.

Fairy tales are about a realm of existence called Fairy

JohnEmmett · Jul 16, 2022

The Thirty-one Planes of Existence

(6) Devas of the Four Great Kings

JohnEmmett · Jul 16, 2022

Fairy is above the human realm

Ghost realm is below

jayem · Jul 17, 2022

JohnEmmett said:
Fairy tales are about a realm of existence called Fairy

I’d call it fantasyland.

JohnEmmett · Jul 17, 2022

jayem said:
I’d call it fantasyland.

Fantasy lands are about Fairy

JohnEmmett · Jul 21, 2022

“One of our dinosaurs is definitely missing!”

“Am I supposed to accept that my eyes deceived me, or this enormous dinosaur was a figment of my imagination?”

JohnEmmett · Jul 21, 2022

“I remember a huge dinosaur standing in the entrance to the natural history section. One day I went in and it was no longer there.”

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news

Bungle_Bear · Jul 22, 2022

JohnEmmett said:
“I remember a huge dinosaur standing in the entrance to the natural history section. One day I went in and it was no longer there.”

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news

"On further questioning, several people realised they had confused us with other museums."

Simple explanation.

JohnEmmett · Jul 22, 2022

Bungle_Bear said:
Simple explanation.

I think it’s more complex

JohnEmmett · Jul 22, 2022

Bungle_Bear said:
Simple explanation.

In 1992, around 40 Bolton Evening News readers rang in with their recollections following an appeal by museum bosses for information.

But no evidence of the dinosaur having existed emerged from their appeal.

theboltonnews.co.uk

Astrophile · Jul 24, 2022

Lost4words said:
We never find human bones with dino bones though. All other animals yes. But never dino bones!

Unless of course you go on youtube!

Geologists don't find human bones with the bones of labyrinthodonts, synapsids (e.g. Dimetrodon), pterosaurs, ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs, mosasaurs, multituberculates, Hippotherium or even Dryopithecus.

JohnEmmett · Jul 24, 2022

Astrophile said:
Geologists don't find human bones with the bones of labyrinthodonts, synapsids (e.g. Dimetrodon), pterosaurs, ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs, mosasaurs, multituberculates, Hippotherium or even Dryopithecus.

This is probably wrong.

Michael Cremo has evidence…

Gene2memE · Jul 24, 2022

JohnEmmett said:
This is probably wrong.

Michael Cremo has evidence…

Nah, he has amateur paleontology from 18th and early 19th century with near zero documentation about the particulars of each find, and selective quoting/reporting of professional paleontology from the mid 1920s onwards.

Take his account of the Laetoli footprints. These are sets of about 70 hominin footprints found in 1976/1977 in an ash layer that dates to 3.66 million years and provide the earliest evidence of human bipedalism. According to Cremo, these are evidence Homo sapiens existed 3.6 million years ago.

There was indeed some initial speculation/argument in the scientific literature that the footprints were homo sapiens - it would have been a HUGE deal if they were. Cremo provides lots of sources from the early to mid 1980s to back this up, even some quotes from the early 1990s.

Yet, he completely fails to report that from the late 1970s/early 1980s onwards, the strong majority opinion was that the tracks were made by Australopithecus afarensis or potentially an undiscovered early Homo species.

Worse still, he also fails to report the analyses done on the biomechanics of the gait and stride length in the late 1980s which ruled out modern Homo sapiens as having made the trackways. Unless whoever made them was doing some kind of weird bent at the knee duck walk and had undergone some mild toe mutilation, the tracks don't resemble what a modern human would have left behind.

He also omits the fact that Australopithecus afarensis fossils were discovered in the same area in the same 3.66 million year ash layer.

When you actually take time out to read the literature, Cremo's evidence deflates like an underdone souffle. But, when he wrote the book in the early 1990s, very few people had access to scientific journals, and fewer still had the means to cross check his sources.

JohnEmmett · Jul 24, 2022

Gene2memE said:
Nah

Take his account of the Laetoli footprints.

The majority opinion is not surprising

Due to belief in evolution

Do you not believe in evolution?

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