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Ask them. I mean actually look into women's concerns about it.
How so when it's for International Women's Day?
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Ask them. I mean actually look into women's concerns about it.How can they say anything if they have been erased?
How so when it's for International Women's Day?The person on the candy wrapper isn't representing women.
No, not that far.Still wondering what you mean with "trans stuff has to go".
Should all transsexuals be killed?
I am limited to the women I actually know, who have not expressed any concerns like yours. How did you find out about it?Ask them. I mean actually look into women's concerns about it.
Putting a trans woman on a candy bar wrapper for an International Women's Day promotional gimmick hardly "erases women."How so when it's for International Women's Day?
OK, so how would you deal with trans kids until they are 18? Pretend they don't exist? Try to bully them out of it?No, not that far.What I mean, is that just as the drinking age is 21+ (in the US), or the voting age is 18, then, the trans stuff should be only meant for those 18+ or 21+, whichever works the best.
I do think the US should lower the drinking age to 18 (though at 24, I do not drink, except for a sip once every few months with parents or friends), to make it equal to the voting age, but that is another topic.
Choosing not to look past your own nose doesn't put you in a position to discuss internal issues.I am limited to the women I actually know, who have not expressed any concerns like yours. How did you find out about it?
I get that you don't get it.Putting a trans woman on a candy bar wrapper for an International Women's Day promotional gimmick hardly "erases women."
Well, just not talking about it. Be friendly to them, but do not express support nor hatred towards them, in other words, remain neutral.OK, so how would you deal with trans kids until they are 18? Pretend they don't exist? Try to bully them out of it?
You start with the fact that all kids go through identity issues and phases.OK, so how would you deal with trans kids until they are 18? Pretend they don't exist? Try to bully them out of it?
Yes, the idea of asking actual women one knows about what they think of trans must seem strange to you and unlikely to produce the answers you require. I also know actual trans people who I talk to about these issues--which will definitely not produce the answers you require.Choosing not to look past your own nose doesn't put you in a position to discuss internal issues.
I don't get it and I don't want it.I get that you don't get it.
This is teachers were talking about right? What you are requiring is that teachers not explain to them what is happening to them and why, and not explain it to their classmates, either.Well, just not talking about it. Be friendly to them, but do not express support nor hatred towards them, in other words, remain neutral.
We're done here.This is teachers were talking about right? What you are requiring is that teachers not explain to them what is happening to them and why, and not explain it to their classmates, either.
Look up the term anecdotal evidence.Yes, the idea of asking actual women one knows about what they think of trans must seem strange to you and unlikely to produce the answers you require. I also know actual trans people who I talk to about these issues--which will definitely not produce the answers you require.
But on the whole I trust them more to tell me what they are really thinking than I do you.
No, what's advertised on the Planned Parenthood page I linked (it wasn't a news article, it was directly from their own website) is certainly not the norm for things beyond standard care.That’s literally a standard practice in clinic work. And what you are inferring from the meaning and application is entirely incorrect. This is not the gotcha you think it is, lol.
This isn't a "wind up the right" thing...there's a reason why the Scandinavian countries are pumping this brakes on this and have reverted back to a much more cautious approach. Unless you feel that they'd be considered "the right", or perhaps you think all of the researchers in those countries got it wrong, and the progressive idealists in the US got it right?No, what I’m describing is actually how things are reviewed. Not the “let’s wind up the right” targeted fear to drum up panic support version of version.
That's because, as noted, the local judge's job is to rule on the particular case at hand, not making more sweeping decisions about the topic as a whole.The concerns couldn’t have been too bad if they ended up ruling in support of the clinic, lol.
But the Planned Parenthood site (and the Boston Children's hospital and UCLA's clinic mentioned something similar), there's no referral needed.Wow! So 100% of the people referred to the gender clinic needed treatment related to the clinic’s express purpose? Shocking! LoL! Next you’re going to tell me that everybody I see waiting to go to the GI clinic is there as a suitable candidate for GI treatments. I have a cardiologist too and I have a sneaking suspicion that 100% of his patients are cardiac related too.
It’s almost as if there is some sort of referral-based setup where the only people who go to it are people who are deemed by other doctors as needing the services of the clinic. Or some sort of acronym-based triage and treatment standard-of-care system that emphasizes putting the right referral for the right place for the patient’s treatment. Weird.
Yes there would eyes on it....we know this, because it happened with the "pain management" clinics that used to operate. They were dispensing drugs and saying virtually everyone walking through the door were "good candidates" to receive them. And when there started to be a nasty uptick in painkiller addiction due to over prescribing, those pain management clinics started coming under intense scrutiny and rightfully started being labelled as "pill mills"No, there would not be.
But the information I provided was from the provider websites, themselves. This wasn't some random stuff I lifted off a right-wing news site.No, they aren’t. Somebody threw bait in the water to fish for you by triggering your righteous outrage over a non-problem and you took it. That doesn’t mean there’s a widespread issue. It means you got played by people who drum up blind support by scaring people.
It's better than the evidence you have, which seems to come from extremists on both sides of the issue.
It's trans + chocolate. Someone said trans wasn't in their hot chocolate. Knowing how ubiquitous trans has become, I was sure I could find a connection. And I did. Proving just how pervasive it is.You specifically went out looking for "trans chocolate". That's not even a phrase I'd think existed, let alone something I should Google and then complain about after finding it.
Well lets see. There's a new thread about it every few days. It's all over the news all the time. And basically viral throughout social media. Rather than cut myself off form the world around me and go live in a cave, I think I'll just continue to sit back and observe the weirdness of it all.If you practice a bit better quality control of what you allow into your life by your own actions, then you'll probably find that it's not as "everywhere" as your fears have primed you to think it is.
Heck, I come from the place that to most of your is synonymous with Sodom (California) -- and a staunchly liberal part of it, too -- and I can count the number of trans people I personally know on one hand. I don't mean that as some kind of brag ("Look how not-connected I am!"), but only to point out that it seems that this LGBT stuff is 'everywhere' relative to how much you (the 'general you') personally obsess over it. So if you want to see less of it, it would be in your best interest to stop interacting with content that prominently features that.
I'm in my early/mid 40s. Of the identity issues and phases I've been through, none of them included feeling like the gender I was physiologically didn't match the gender I am internally. Even when I felt completely out-of-control of my body, my basic gender identity remained constant. For most people, it's hardly "a phase," and for those who make it all the way to eligibility for surgery, they're there because they have proven it is absolutely not a phase.You start with the fact that all kids go through identity issues and phases.
This is word salad.No, what's advertised on the Planned Parenthood page I linked (it wasn't a news article, it was directly from their own website) is certainly not the norm for things beyond standard care.
Again, word salad. And a deliberate misrepresentation of what the site says.We're not talking about getting antibiotics for an ear infection, we're talking about dispensing drugs with side effects and risks that go beyond the threshold of "getting them on your first visit without a referral" (as the PP website advertises)
This is a "wind up the right" thing, and they're hardly "pumping the brakes" so much as they're outlining a standard of reporting and care after the procedure so they can learn long-term effects.This isn't a "wind up the right" thing...there's a reason why the Scandinavian countries are pumping this brakes on this and have reverted back to a much more cautious approach. Unless you feel that they'd be considered "the right", or perhaps you think all of the researchers in those countries got it wrong, and the progressive idealists in the US got it right?
Uh... Well, that's not true. LoL! A judge decides on a case which creates precedents that are applied by other judges and sought by other litigants. They don't issue rulings in a vacuum.That's because, as noted, the local judge's job is to rule on the particular case at hand, not making more sweeping decisions about the topic as a whole.
A medical procedure is sought out and occurs with consent. How does that have anything in common with the use-of-force in an authoritative scenario, which occurs without consent?For instance, if there was a police officer who had a long history of using force, and one particular case went to court. If the judge says "Well, in this particular case, the use of force happened to be justified, but I find it concerning that over the past 5 years, you've felt the need to use force in 100% of your traffic stops"
Yes, there is. It's literally at the bottom of that site you linked, lol.But the Planned Parenthood site (and the Boston Children's hospital and UCLA's clinic mentioned something similar), there's no referral needed.
You can keep arguing about it, but you're flat out wrong. They're not responsible for your misreading their website.All had statements to the similar effect as the PP website. (Boston adjusted theirs after getting some backlash, but the wayback machine still has the cached version from 2 years ago)
"In most cases you can receive a prescription for hormones on your first visit"
"No referral from a healthcare provider is required"
"Most visits can be completed in 45 minutes"
Thanks to the gaslighting and hysteria you're exhibiting, I am barely holding onto the interest to read this thread. I'm certainly not going to another thread where you're doing it there.I provided more detailed information in other threads on the matter
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While I enjoy the mansplaining of the industry I know more about than you do, that's not exactly how that happened, but Ok.Yes there would eyes on it....we know this, because it happened with the "pain management" clinics that used to operate. They were dispensing drugs and saying virtually everyone walking through the door were "good candidates" to receive them. And when there started to be a nasty uptick in painkiller addiction due to over prescribing, those pain management clinics started coming under intense scrutiny and rightfully started being labelled as "pill mills"
If you're being referred to any department with "surgeon" in the title, you're absolutely going to get evaluated for surgery. And because that's all they do, yes, an overwhelming number of them get surgery. Your whole "it's only a last resort" rationalization is your lack of understanding of the industry, not how it actually works, lol. If I'm calling for a referral with a surgeon with a patient that I didn't actually intend for surgery, I'm wasting everybody's time.And with regards to the comparison I made to orthopedic surgeons, despite getting lots of people referred to them, they still do surgery only as a last resort. It's not as if every GP referral to a neurosurgeon ends up yielding an actual surgery.
I'm saying that you're so keen to be wound up about this that you're looking for reasons to be upset, then when you're told that you're extrapolating something that isn't there, you resort to gaslighting. As somebody with direct knowledge on how this all works, I know for 100% fact, you're wrong. But even if I wasn't in the medical industry for a decade or reliant or constant-mid level care for ongoing care which requires a higher than average level of supervision, based off of what you've given me, I can still see that's just not how what you're talking about works.But the information I provided was from the provider websites, themselves. This wasn't some random stuff I lifted off a right-wing news site.
So you're saying Planned Parenthood, Boston Children's hospital, and the Gender Clinic at UCLA are "throwing bait in the water" to trigger outrage about the service they, themselves, provide?
mansplaining
Here's the full contents of the page I linked (did you perhaps go to one of the other links somewhere else on the site that says something different?):Yes, there is. It's literally at the bottom of that site you linked, lol.
There are other who also think it is too simplistic.I'm also not fixated on a simplistic left vs right dichotomy
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