Humans did NOT evolve from Apes...

miknik5 · Jul 21, 2017

See?

Here I will do the work and homework of pulling up the many posts which showed that you do not believe that this is THE WAY but have considered HIS laying down the flesh a religious error

It isn't

Here is the first post which began a series of questioning and providing to you the many scriptures which you, on another post, claimed to be unscriptural

I'll get those posts as well

Aman777 said:
False accusation since I post the agreement of Scripture with every discovery of mankind. Can you tell us the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is the power of God unto Salvation?

Aman777 said:
Amen, but we are given a better understanding if we seek the agreement of what mankind has discovered which agrees with God's Holy Word. This is based on what God told Daniel:

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

It's the way God hid His Truth from everyone except the people who live in the last days before Jesus returns at Armageddon. God told us His scientific Truth in Genesis and it agrees with the recently discovered Truths of mankind. ONLY God could hide His Truth in the future since only God can see the end from the beginning. He knew what the people of today are just now learning 3k years ago.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure:

*** In Genesis chapter 2, "day" is clearly not a 24 hour day, merely. Why would "day" be different in the 2nd chapter than in the first, and that's only one of several things to consider. More to the point is how we are not told how much time is passing between any two days.

The Days (Heb-yowm-periods of time) are Ages consisting of many Billions of years, in man's time. The evening and morning are the end and the beginning of these work periods. God has only 7 Days and the 7th is Eternity since it has no evening and no morning. We live today at the end of the present 6th Day of God's labor at Gen 1:27 since God is STILL creating Adam/mankind in Christ. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of events which happen AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon.

*** But please humbly may I ask you to refrain from asserting the first man was made on the 3rd day in Genesis 1, contradicting the text? After all, just look at verse 26.

Verse 26 is the account of the time when Adam and Eve were BOTH created in God's Image, which is in Christ Spiritually. Details of this event are told in Gen 5:1-2 which shows that A&E were born again Spiritually after Cain killed Abel.

Adam was first made a living soul on the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain. Gen 2:4-7 Trees, which GREW on the 3rd Day, Gen 1:12 were made AFTER Adam was made. Gen 2:8-9 This is confirmed in the following verse:

1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Adam was born again on the 6th Day. Gen 1:26 & Gen 5:1-2 He could NOT have been "created" by the Trinity, Eternally, until the 6th Day since Eve was not made until the 6th Day. Gen 2:22 Adam was first made a living soul when Jesus (Lord God) made him from the dust. We are His kinds. Gen 2:4-7 and the last Adam was made an eternal Spirit by the agreement of The Trinity (God). Today, Adam is Their kinds or the kinds created to live with Jesus forever in God's perfect 3rd Heaven. God Bless you

This conveniently removes the need for the ACTUAL "lLAST ADAM" CHRIST JESUS to have to first come into the world in the flesh in order to lay down the flesh so as to become for all the "first little unregenerated adams naturally born on the 6th day" to be reborn of CHRIST's (THE LAST ADAM) LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT

The first Adam became a living soul (that's 6th day unregenerated natural fleshly carnal man)

The LAST ADAM became a life-giving SPIRIT (that's THE LORD doing for natural carnal fleshly Adam what he could not do for himself by THE LORD's SPIRIT being poured out upon the unregenerated little fleshly adam (on an individual basis based on unregenerated little fleshly Adam believing in CHRIST's redemptive work) through faith in CHRIST's redemptive work which was laying down willingly and purposely the flesh so as to take it up again and so as to become for those little 6th day little fleshly carnal adams a LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT

Flesh came first....then spirit
All must be born again

Adam was not born again because the SPIRIT had not yet been poured out upon any because CHRIST JESUS had not yet entered into HIS GLORY

miknik5 · Jul 21, 2017

Oh and not only that you tried to imply that you had to "correct me" in my understanding that

CHRIST is not the second Adam when I NEVER said that

I said THE LAST ADAM.

More diversions and deceptions from debaters in the "art of debate"?

Aman777 · Jul 21, 2017

TBDude65 said:
Absence of evidence of a creator is why I object to it. Absence of evidence of sentient/conscious guidance to evolution is another reason I object to it. It is really that simple.

It's because you have rejected Scripture which tells us of recently discovered Scientific Facts, more than 3k years ago. It's proof of God since no man of the time could have told us of the events which are just now being discovered. So get ready for God is pouring out His Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, through Science in these last days before Jesus returns. God Bless you

miknik5 · Jul 21, 2017

AMAN..,
Shall I continue piling all your posts to see that you are indeed providing "another way" based on you think supposed intelligence from god

(Which is not from GOD)

miknik5 · Jul 21, 2017

Aman777 said:
It's because you have rejected Scripture which tells us of recently discovered Scientific Facts, more than 3k years ago. It's proof of God since no man of the time could have told us of the events which are just now being discovered. So get ready for God is pouring out His Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, through Science in these last days before Jesus returns. God Bless you

You have rejected scripture because the temple worship and practices are hidden from you and you can't see that they were shadows of all that is found in CHRIST

Sacrifices and burnt offerings you did not desire

HE didn't
When GOD told Abraham to sacrifice his promised son, it was GOD's way of showing limited man who ever and always needs signs and lower representations to understand HIS HIGHER HIDDEN TRUTHS, HE was pointing to THE SACRIFICE OF THE PROMISED SON which GOD from the beginning spoke of and would alone provide

For HE alone is the ONE who opened the TRUE MATRIX

THAT FIRMAMENT
Between heaven and earth

By, through and in HIS BODY
THE TRUE VEIL which is between GOD and men

AS THE ONE AND ONLY WAY BACK TO THE FATHER

THE ONLY WAY

For no man can come to THE FATHER except through HIM

Subduction Zone · Jul 21, 2017

Aman777 said:
Telling falsehoods is not allowed. Please post "evidence" of your assertion. I know you cannot, but now everyone will see your deceptive ways, which were first demonstrated by your father. God Bless you

I did. When someone posts something you can either respond to the evidence in it, but it is extremely dishonest to edit out the parts of a post that you do not like.

Subduction Zone · Jul 21, 2017

Aman777 said:
Show us your most simple explanation for the process by which God's superior intelligence, which is like God's, Gen 3:22 got inside prehistoric people. You cannot unless you give up your rejection of God's Truth. Also, History AGREES with God's Truth and refutes (proves wrong) the ToE. Want "evidence"? God Bless you

Sorry, not possible since it appears that your God does not exist in the first place.

If you want to claim that a God exists the burden of proof is upon you. I can't otherwise respond to your illogical demand.

TBDude65 · Jul 21, 2017

Aman777 said:
It's because you have rejected Scripture which tells us of recently discovered Scientific Facts, more than 3k years ago. It's proof of God since no man of the time could have told us of the events which are just now being discovered. So get ready for God is pouring out His Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, through Science in these last days before Jesus returns. God Bless you

I don't accept scripture as true because I have never found anything to corroborate scripture's claims as being true. It is the exact same reason I imagine you don't accept claims from other holy books

miknik5 · Jul 21, 2017

TBDude65 said:
I don't accept scripture as true because I have never found anything to corroborate scripture's claims as being true. It is the exact same reason I imagine you don't accept claims from other holy books

Accept THE HOLY BIBLE to be TRUE

And the TESTIMONY of JESUS
I pray for you that you become a Berean and search THE SCRIPTURE for yourself

May GOD bless your heart that HE may open (the eyes and ears of) your heart to THE TRUTH of THE REVELATION of JESUS CHRIST as SAVIOR and LORD

TBDude65 · Jul 21, 2017

miknik5 said:
Accept THE HOLY BIBLE to be TRUE

And the TESTIMONY of JESUS
I pray for you that you become a Berean and search THE SCRIPTURE for yourself

May GOD bless your heart that HE may open (the eyes and ears of) your heart to THE TRUTH of THE REVELATION of JESUS CHRIST as SAVIOR and LORD

Replies like this don't add anything to the discussion nor do they convince me of anything.

miknik5 · Jul 21, 2017

TBDude65 said:
Replies like this don't add anything to the discussion nor do they convince me of anything.

Okay..dude

miknik5 · Jul 21, 2017

I can't do anything more but suggest you seek to know HIM for yourself

TBDude65 · Jul 21, 2017

miknik5 said:
I can't do anything more but suggest you seek to know HIM for yourself

I didn't ask you to do anything, and I certainly didn't ask you to preach to me about my former religion.

miknik5 · Jul 21, 2017

I'm sorry about that

Was it a former religion you left
Or was it divorce?

TBDude65 said:
I didn't ask you to do anything, and I certainly didn't ask you to preach to me about my former religion.

Aman777 · Jul 21, 2017

miknik5 said:
See?

Here I will do the work and homework of pulling up the many posts which showed that you do not believe that this is THE WAY but have considered HIS laying down the flesh a religious error

It isn't

Here is the first post which began a series of questioning and providing to you the many scriptures which you, on another post, claimed to be unscriptural

I'll get those posts as well

This conveniently removes the need for the ACTUAL "lLAST ADAM" CHRIST JESUS to have to first come into the world in the flesh in order to lay down the flesh so as to become for all the "first little unregenerated adams naturally born on the 6th day" to be reborn of CHRIST's (THE LAST ADAM) LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT

Why? What you have dreamed up in your own mind is that I don't believe that Jesus came in the flesh. That's ridiculous and is NOT what I post.

*** The first Adam became a living soul (that's 6th day unregenerated natural fleshly carnal man)

Correction. Adam was made the 3rd Day before the plants herbs and trees. Gen 2:4-9 I notice that you never seem to acknowledge Scripture which refutes your ancient view.

*** The LAST ADAM became a life-giving SPIRIT (that's THE LORD doing for natural carnal fleshly Adam what he could not do for himself by THE LORD's SPIRIT being poured out upon the unregenerated little fleshly adam (on an individual basis based on unregenerated little fleshly Adam believing in CHRIST's redemptive work) through faith in CHRIST's redemptive work which was laying down willingly and purposely the flesh so as to take it up again and so as to become for those little 6th day little fleshly carnal adams a LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT

Amen. You have not understood what I have posted or you would have known I believe the same.

*** Flesh came first....then spirit
All must be born again

Adam was not born again because the SPIRIT had not yet been poured out upon any because CHRIST JESUS had not yet entered into HIS GLORY<<<

Totally and completely wrong since Christ was crucified before the foundation of the world. Rev 13:8 Also read Genesis 1:26 and see that it takes the TRINITY go create an eternal being. Let US make man (Adam) in OUR Image) God said. It takes the AGREEMENT of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to "create" a New creature in Christ.

IOW, Christ was there in the physical world, BEFORE Cain killed Abel, since Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2 It's your ancient religious view which needs to be updated. Jesus IS the Light of the first Day. Gen 1:3 That's God's Truth which no man can refute. God Bless you

HitchSlap · Jul 21, 2017

miknik5 said:
I can't do anything more but suggest you seek to know HIM for yourself

Then I guess your job here is done.

Subduction Zone · Jul 21, 2017

Aman777 said:
Satan teaches worldly "evidence" which is all you've got. In the end, it will burn.

2Pe 3:10 ¶ But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Only those who have made it to the 3rd Heaven will escape the flames. Amen?

Sorry, but "Satan" is another concept that you need to prove. And your verse out of context does not support you at all.

Aman777 · Jul 21, 2017

Subduction Zone said:
I did. When someone posts something you can either respond to the evidence in it, but it is extremely dishonest to edit out the parts of a post that you do not like.

Thanks for confirming that you cannot show ANY evidence that you have refuted me either Scripturally scientifically nor historically at ANY time. Just wanted to get you on record once again bluffing and blustering instead of posting facts. God Bless you

Aman777 · Jul 21, 2017

Subduction Zone said:
Sorry, not possible since it appears that your God does not exist in the first place.

If you want to claim that a God exists the burden of proof is upon you. I can't otherwise respond to your illogical demand.

Thanks again for demonstrating that like Trump, no one should believe a single thing you post since you NEVER post "evidence" for your own opinion. God Bless you

Subduction Zone · Jul 21, 2017

Aman777 said:
Thanks for confirming that you cannot show ANY evidence that you have refuted me either Scripturally scientifically nor historically at ANY time. Just wanted to get you on record once again bluffing and blustering instead of posting facts. God Bless you

But I did. Your inability to understand a refutation does not mean that it did not occur.

You should not tell false stories about others. That is a breaking of the Ninth Commandment.

The mere fact that you can't support any of your claims scientifically refutes them alone. When it comes to science you refute yourself. And you take verses from the Bible out of context and use wild reinterpretations that you cannot support. Once again, you refute yourself.

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