Humans did NOT evolve from Apes...

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Aman777 said:
Read the following and then prepare your apology to the Holy Spirit for slandering His Holy Word:

Gen 1:6 ¶ And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

Where was Adam's firmament placed? In the midst or middle of Water with water above and below it. With your great understanding of Scripture tell us what this verse is saying. It is speaking of the Scoffers of the last days:

2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

Please tell us HOW Adam's Earth could be in the water and out of the water at the SAME time.....Waiting...

It was never adams firmament or adams earth

It was always GOD's

And it didn't matter where GOD placed the man

Whether on top of a mountain or at the bottom of Lake Van turkey

It wasn't where the man physically was that dictated his innocence or goodness

Adam wasn't born again and never had that opportunity

He is included in the generation prior to CHRIST physically entering through the firmament and coming into the world born in the natural pattern of a man so as to redeem all flesh who would believe in HIM as the LAST ADAM and the VERY WAY (hidden until the fullness of time) back into the GARDEN and PRESENCE of THE FATHER

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Aman777 said:
I can only deal with comedic posts a little at a time. Here is the account of Adam's Firmament:

Gen 1:6 ¶ And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

Can you understand that when the solid firmament or boundary of Adam's world was made, it was place in the midst of WATER? Is that too hard to understand?

Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

See? The firmament divided the water under the firmament from the water above the firmament. IOW, it was totally surrounded by WATER. Amen?

Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

God called Adam's firmament Heaven, the first Heaven. On the NEXT Day Lord God/Jesus made other HeavenS (plural). He made the 2nd Heaven (the present Cosmos) and He made the THIRD Heaven of ll Corinthians 12:2. Is that too much for you to understand?

*** Funny Noah sent out birds and later animals to repopulate the world then eh? Funny the bird brought a fresh leaf of a tree on the world then, eh?

Absolutely since Olive Trees don't germinate in the mud, grow limbs and leaves in ONLY 7 Days between the time when the Dove first went out. Gen 8:10 FYI, there were millions of birds, animals and prehistoric people on planet Earth when the Ark arrived 11,000 years ago. God Bless you

The firmament was a dividing line. A "membrane" which separates one area of water from another area of water

The firmament was not an expanse which supported an life in it. It was just a dividing line

The water above that firmament was called the heavens

The firmament itself was not called an additional Heaven

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Try taking a large container of water containing living organisms and sea creatures of various kinds

Now take a water resistant board that can span the length of the area of the container so that if you take the board and lay it horizontally so that the water in the container is displaced so that there is water above the board and living organisms also contained in that water and water below that board and living organisms also contained in that water

That board is a firmament
Nothing is living in the firmament
Rather the living organism is sbove and below that firmament

That is a simple explanation of a firmament drawn between waters

The firmament which GOD created to separate the waters was so that below the dome of that firmament GOD created a world where all living organisms could survive:the water creatures, the creatures of the air, and the beasts which live upon the dry land and mankind which lives upon the dry land

The water below that firmament, GOD gathered in areas so that dry land could appear

There is no and was no living environment existing in the firmament

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Colter said:
You can believe anything, but that doesn't change the facts revealed in the archeological layers.

The creation story in Genesis was the creation of man using ancient fragments of Adam and Eve arriving on a preveously fallen earth. It's a human and factually inaccurate story written for spiritual instruction.

Just like John the Baptist erroneously warned of the "wrath to come", anti scientist confuse scoffers at faith with Gods evolutionary technique of creation.

Erroneously warned of the wrath to come?

Is this your thinking
Or are you referring to the "scoffers"

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

I'm on page 4 I have read up to post #62

All I can say is
Wow
Wow
Wow

Colter · Jul 20, 2017

miknik5 said:
Erroneously warned of the wrath to come?

Is this your thinking
Or are you referring to the "scoffers"

No wrath came, just a Loving Son of God who's gospel the Jews rejected. He went back home.

xianghua · Jul 20, 2017

Motherofkittens said:
DNA for one.

can you give an example to how DNA prove evolution?

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Colter said:
No wrath came, just a Loving Son of God who's gospel the Jews rejected. He went back home.

The scoffers question and deny CHRIST's second coming (as the LION of the tribe of judah)

Do you also reject that HE will come again and this time not as the LAMB?

You said John erroneously warned of the wrath to come

Is it johns error?

Or your own?

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Colter said:
You can believe anything, but that doesn't change the facts revealed in the archeological layers.

The creation story in Genesis was the creation of man using ancient fragments of Adam and Eve arriving on a preveously fallen earth. It's a human and factually inaccurate story written for spiritual instruction.

Just like John the Baptist erroneously warned of the "wrath to come", anti scientist confuse scoffers at faith with Gods evolutionary technique of creation.

In the above highlighted paragraph, both of these thoughts are your own opinions

The first thought regarding John "erroneously" warning about the wrath to come stems from your lack of understanding

The second thought regarding scoffers scoffing about :your input- " faith in god's evolutionary technique of creation" is based on your distorting what is truly written of as the true reason for why these scoffers scoff
Remember?
As it is written:
(Where is this coming?)

These scoffers are rejecting CHRIST's second coming

Which appears to be what you also reject

Because if you didn't you would have understood what john was warning people about

Colter · Jul 20, 2017

miknik5 said:
In the above highlighted paragraph, both of these thoughts are your own opinions

The first thought regarding John "erroneously" warning about the wrath to come stems from your lack of understanding

The second thought regarding scoffers scoffing about faith is god's evolutionary technique of creation is based on your distorting what is truly written of as the reason for why these scoffers scoff

And that is their rejecting CHRIST's second coming

Which appears to be what you also reject

Because if you did, you would have understood what john was warning people about

John thought Jesus would bring wrath, he was wrong.

Bible worshipers are too proud to admit errors in the Bible so the "spin" excuses endlessly.

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Colter said:
John thought Jesus would bring wrath, he was wrong.

Bible worshipers are too proud to admit errors in the Bible so the "spin" excuses endlessly.

John knew who had sent him to baptize and the REASON why he was sent to baptize

He understood that this was the LAMB OF GOD WHO TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD

Thst was not a ministry of wrath...yet

John knew that a separation was already occurring because THE BRIDEGROOM had come and he know that HIS winnowing fork is in HIS HAND

But John also knew that the chaff would not be burned up in the fire until the end of this present and still ongoing ministry of reconciliation

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Colter said:
John thought Jesus would bring wrath, he was wrong.

Bible worshipers are too proud to admit errors in the Bible so the "spin" excuses endlessly.

Bible worshippers?

Do you think those to whom THE SPIRIT has come, need to carry around their bibles?

GOD did what HE said HE would do

HE moved HIS infallible word inwardly upon our hearts and in our minds

HIS WORD is not in contradiction to HIS VOICE/SPIRIT

And never will be
And neither are in error

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Aman777 said:
Doesn't work with me since I am a fundamentalist, Bible believing, born again Spiritually, Christian, who shows the AGREEMENT of Genesis, science and history. Those who had rather promote their own religious view, with no evidence, is the reason for the more than 33k denominations.

I hope that ALL Christians will wake up and realize that we live today in the last days before Jesus returns. It's time to reveal ALL of God's Truth to the world, since evolutionists, scientists and other unbelievers MUST be told the testable Truth before Jesus returns to rule and reign on planet Earth for a thousand years.

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh:

God's Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, not a denominational view. I believe the ONLY way to proclaim His Truth to ALL flesh, is to show the agreement of Scripture with every other discovered Truth of mankind. Can anyone tell us another way? If not, then please post, Amen. God Bless you

I don't
I believe that preaching the ETERNAL GOSPEL to all that is perishable is sufficient

I believe that once 2 Thessalonians 2 happens all that is perishable will be shaken

And all those long held "theories of truth" which those outside THE ETERNAL TRUTH have clung to, will no longer hold

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Halbhh said:
If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.

Love is patient and kind. It does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

Love never fails -- But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

Knowledge will pass away. (only Christ's words will endure)

For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.

This is exactly what we are to remember when darkness comes

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Aman777 said:
Amen, but I think one should listen when another Christian shows them Scripturally that Genesis science and history AGREE in every way. Some run away and refuse to discuss the matter and some stick their head in the sand, but the confirmation of Genesis is being discovered by science daily. Soon, ALL flesh will realize that God told us of the scientific discoveries which will happen in the last days, thousands of years ago. It's God's Truth which will soon be shown to ALL flesh. Joe 2:28 Act 2:17

No. In fact the opposite will occur

The things that long held by GODS everyday grace upon all men (believer and unbeliever alike) will no longer hold
"When HE who holds all things back is taken out of the way"

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

Aman777 said:
False, since Adam, who was made with an intelligence like God's Gen 3:22 was made long BEFORE the common ancestor of Apes. Adam was made the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 and L.U.C.A. didn't appear in the water until the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 Unless you can convince us that you know more than the Holy Spirit. God Bless you

If Adam already had the "intelligence of GOD", there would have been no reason for GOD to withhold from Adam the tree of knowledge of good and evil

It was after Adam disobeyed GOD and are from that tree which was forbidden him to eat, that GOD said behold the man has become like us knowing good from evil and now lest he reach out and take from the tree of life and live forever that was when THE WAY back to that perfect home was blocked and Adam was driven out

Adam did not have the "intelligence of GOD"
Prior to his disobedience he was innocent as a child knowing nothing but good

Once his eyes were opened and his conscience was made aware of guilt...(something he knew nothing of before in his pure and innocent state prior to his fall) he was changed and so with that change became aware of his flesh and the relationship between him
and GOD changed

And he hid himself and his flesh from GOD

HitchSlap · Jul 20, 2017

xianghua said:
can you give an example to how DNA prove evolution?

The same way you can prove who your father is.

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

HitchSlap said:
The same way you can prove who your father is.

Is our DNA effected (but not necessarily manifested) by disease

Colter · Jul 20, 2017

miknik5 said:
Bible worshippers?

Do you think those to whom THE SPIRIT has come, need to carry around their bibles?

GOD did what HE said HE would do

HE moved HIS infallible word inwardly upon our hearts and in our minds

HIS WORD is not in contradiction to HIS VOICE/SPIRIT

And never will be
And neither are in error

It was believed that the Messiah would usher in a new age,fight off Israel's enemies establish a material kingdom and sit on David's throne. They were confused miss led by claims in the Bible. Jesus wasn't the Jewish Messiah is they conceived of him to be ,he left and went back home. He didn't destroy anything is John thought he would because John was wrong John was just human he had his own beliefs.

miknik5 · Jul 20, 2017

What I mean is cancer cells and other disorders may be present in our genes but that does not necessarily mean that we will acquire the sickness

Correct?

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