Human evolution

[RealityCheck01]

Only Trump and evolutionists insist that Humans are animals, which is impossible since Humans (Adam) were made long BEFORE any other living creature. ...

This is the making of the bible into an impossible fairy story that he has in the God's creation Timeline refutes evolution thread. Many ignorant fantasies. An insanely ignorant one is that he has an "Adam's Earth" and Adam before the Big Bang. But the Big Bang is the universe having no atoms at all and at immense temperatures. Thus my post
23 August 2018 Aman777: "The Big Bang of our Cosmos" murders the descendants of Adam and Eve (or just Adam) . Plus 8 questions and 41 items with fantasies, errors, lies and ignorance.

 

[Aman777]

Aman777 said: ↑
Only Trump and evolutionists insist that Humans are animals, which is impossible since Humans (Adam) were made long BEFORE any other living creature. ...

This is the making of the bible into an impossible fairy story that he has in the God's creation Timeline refutes evolution thread.

Thanks for the free advertisement from one who is obviously so frustrated.

Many ignorant fantasies.

Sure, and ALL of them are supported by the AGREEMENT of Scripture science and history. Evolutionists cannot refute (prove it wrong) in ANY way and get so terribly frustrated, just like you. My advice to you and them is to Lighten up.

An insanely ignorant one is that he has an "Adam's Earth" and Adam before the Big Bang.

Genesis 1:8 tells us God made Adam's firmament on the 2nd day.
Genesis 2:4 tells us that Lord God/Jesus made other firmaments/Heavens on the 3rd Day. Nothing insanely ignorant about that Biblical Fact except to those who want it to say something else, like there is only one Heaven, and it's the present one, and anything else is insane. What's insane is to deny God's Truth in Scripture.

But the Big Bang is the universe having no atoms at all and at immense temperatures.

Not so, since later discoveries have shown the big bang was more like a big cosmic inflation, like a sticky balloon with stars, expanding. https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/what-is-and-isnt-scientific-about-the-multiverse-507aea967db0 Looks like the immense temperatures cooled after the singularity in the multiverse.

Can you tell us Who or what caused the singularity/big bang? Or are we the product of a White Hole? Posting hateful replies will not change the facts which frustrate you so much.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I'd say they found this Ticktock in spite of science; not with respect to it.

You can say what you want, it won't change the facts of it being found by solid prediction based on evolution theory and evolutionary history.

For every "prediction" that comes true, they probably have a thousand that don't.

"probably", so you don't know.. You're just assuming it.
Off course, you need to tell yourself that, to protect your fundamentalist beliefs.
But once again, you are just fooling yourself.

And what does the Bible say?

Nothing that allows finding fossils like Tiktaalik by prediction.

If just ONE prophecy doesn't come true, it can take a hike.

Scientific prediction and religious prophecy, are not the same thing.
For one, scientific prediction actually works.

 

[DogmaHunter]

The problem is, AV, is that they don’t find truly out of place fossils . If they’re out of place at all is because they were moved after being fossilized. Paleontologists can tell because the original matrix is still surrounding the fossil. Please don’t bother with “ polystrate trees” as there are a lot of different reasons for trees to be found like that. Which is why mainstream scientists don’t use the term.

Abraxos doesn’t get it. Scientists found Tiktaalik were they predicted it would be . They didn’t know ahead of time where it would be. And by the way,finding fossils in this manner confirms that dating methods aren’t arbitrary either . This is probably the main reason that creationists reject it.

It's quite amazing, and very telling, the amount and nature of excuses creationists here are using, all just so they don't have to address the facts of the tiktaalik find.

It's a bit insane actually.... People have called it a lie that it was predicted ahead of time, others called it sheer luck, AV now is basically saying "i don't know how they managed to find it, but it sure wasn't because evolution is actually correct!!!" followed by some invention concerning statistics about "failed" predictions....

The length people go through in their psychological defense mechanisms, just so they can hold on to their unscientific, fly-in-the-face-of-evidence-based-reality, fundamentalist religious beliefs........


It's quite sad, actually.

 

[tas8831]

No, just an analyst. Care to show me some?

So you suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect. Got it.

 

[tas8831]

I don't think so... the interpretations of the fossils for the tikaalik as an example are merely based on nothing more than speculations from a very fragmented fossil that was absent of these supposed fin-feet.

So, you've not bothered to actually maybe use a search engine and find examples on your own? I found a bunch in like 15 seconds. Easier, I suppose, for the Dunning-Krugerite creationist to maintain an unwarranted air of certainty if they just refuse to look.

Look.

Now how about some evidence for Noah's Ark? No bible verses, no wishful thinking, no speculation, no embellishments, etc.

 

[tas8831]

This is a raw skeletal image. Its not a drawing. High definition scales right there in the bottom left picture.

http://www.pnas.org/content/111/3/893

Look in this link above at figure 2, also a high definition image, no drawings. He has 4 different angles in high definition photograph of the acetabulum, ilium, and pubis.

And in figure 3.

Here again ^, hit the reply button if you cant see the image. You can clearly see the scales along its back, its flat head, you can see the unfused skull, you can see the large pectoral girdles

So fragmentary, so much speculation.

There is TONS more better evidence for dust being converted directly into a fully formed adult human male!

 

[Brightmoon]

So fragmentary, so much speculation.

There is TONS more better evidence for dust being converted directly into a fully formed adult human male!

.

Yeah right! Sure, Uh huh! No.

And this gets better . Fish have 2 skulls the inner one which covers the brain and the outer one which pretty much forms a fishes face. We’ve retained both . The inner skull is derived from cartilage based bone and is found only at the top of the spinal column in humans . The outer skull ( more properly the skullroof,) is the basis of our skull. Fish have 4 bones in the occipital region we have one but it has 4 bone generating spots during fetal development.

There’s a reason why tetrapod bones are given the same names as other in vertebrates . In fish the scapula is attached to the skull roof . In tetrapod vertebrates it’s completely separate and as you can see that took a few million years

 

[Aman777]

Now how about some evidence for Noah's Ark? No bible verses, no wishful thinking, no speculation, no embellishments, etc.

Sure, but don't tell anyone since Adam's firmament, which contained the Ark and protected Adam's Earth from the water which surrounded it, Genesis 1:6-7 is tangible, testable, proof of life from beyond our cosmos. It's the most valuable Treasure on planet Earth since it is also proof of God. It lies under 11k years of volcanic debris in Lake Van, Turkey, in the mountains of Ararat. It will soon be discovered.

 

[DogmaHunter]

It lies under 11k years of volcanic debris in Lake Van, Turkey, in the mountains of Ararat. It will soon be discovered.

Right, right.... ANY DAY NOW!!!

Don't forget to poke us on this forum when it happens.

 

[Aman777]

Right, right.... ANY DAY NOW!!!

Don't forget to poke us on this forum when it happens.

It all depends on which greedy explorer finds the firmament first. Either a fame loving scientist or a T.V. preacher will become the richest man on Earth, when it's discovered. Everyone will know since it will be broadcast over the entire world. They will be so rich, they can surpass Trump's net worth, and won't have to steal it from the people, like Trump does.

 

[Brightmoon]

Well ok I agreed with part of that . Not the pseudo history but the comment about 45.

 

[Brightmoon]

Aman , take your hand and run it up and down your spine and your ribs . Only vertebrates have ribs and a spinal column. Vertebrates are animals! You’re an animal , humans are animals! Wake up and smell the coffee!

 

[DogmaHunter]

It all depends on which greedy explorer finds the firmament first. Either a fame loving scientist or a T.V. preacher will become the richest man on Earth, when it's discovered. Everyone will know since it will be broadcast over the entire world. They will be so rich, they can surpass Trump's net worth, and won't have to steal it from the people, like Trump does.

Uhu, uhu.

 

[AV1611VET]

You can say what you want, it won't change the facts of it being found by solid prediction based on evolution theory and evolutionary history.

After how many tries?

For one, scientific prediction actually works.

And for every one that actually works, how many do not?

 

[Brightmoon]

After how many tries?And for every one that actually works, how many do not?

actually a lot don’t work . Failed predictions teach scientists that something’s wrong or that something is missing. Just as you learned in school that 2+2 is not 5 . You just knew next time that this wasn’t the answer. Scientists learn from wrong answers . Obviously creationists dont

 

[AV1611VET]

actually a lot don’t work . Failed predictions teach scientists that something’s wrong or that something is missing. Just as you learned in school that 2+2 is not 5 . You just knew next time that this wasn’t the answer. Scientists learn from wrong answers . Obviously creationists dont

Perhaps you can explain how my eye doctor, a YEC, got his practice sans macroevolution?

 

[HitchSlap]

Perhaps you can explain how my eye doctor, a YEC, got his practice sans macroevolution?

This needs to be explained to you? Really?

 

[AV1611VET]

This needs to be explained to you? Really?

He needs to explain it to himself.

 

[HitchSlap]

He needs to explain it to himself.

Ask him if there were any questions on his state licensing exam re macro evolution.