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yaqovzadeek · May 25, 2006

If you had really met a Christian woman you would have known, she would have refused you, no matter what your looks were cool dude boy. Give you a hint about woman: we don't really go by looks, very different from most men who see a pretty face and can't get past that to be just a friend. Shame on you too, but your sins have not yet been forgiven, unless you put your trust in Jesus (even though you have repented of your wicked ways).[/quote]

AlHannah said:
Yaqov. You boast about it and then you look on those women, well for all you know they may be Christians now or even Muslims. It is not right to judge them. It is unfair. You know I bet if you asked those women if they were Christians, you would probably find they weren't.

I think I made it clear that i am not boasting and blaming the womenI am blaming the western values and their false religions of lipservice, that have brainwashed these women into thinking their bodies are to be treated in this way. women are encouraged to bear all and have sex at very young ages.my point is not to judge and blame the women, as i always say those were my Bad boy days i acknowledge I was a bad boy i committed a lot of sin, But Islam came and rescued me, cleansed me of my sins because I repented and promised never to go back to those sins again.i have devoted my life to serving GOD. Again i make it clear that I don't judge them i wish i could meet them again and offer them Islam. Actually the first girlfriend I had was a chinese girl and I was happy about 10 years ago while on holiday to find out that she was now a devout muslim and had married a muslim man.I wished all the best.i nearly cried cos her dad was a 7 day adventist preacher.So i wish the same for all the other ladies that I have known that GOD guide them.i don't blame them but i blame the immoral society and their fasle religions they are born and raised in,or live in devoid of Islam.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
Aka james the Just

yaqovzadeek · May 25, 2006

AlHannah said:
If you had really met a Christian woman you would have known, she would have refused you, no matter what your looks were cool dude boy. Give you a hint about woman: we don't really go by looks, very different from most men who see a pretty face and can't get past that to be just a friend. Shame on you too, but your sins have not yet been forgiven, unless you put your trust in Jesus (even though you have repented of your wicked ways).

I had met loads of christian women during the three years I was in lourdes, I met many who were in church by day and we me in the bars and the rest by night.They were Christians.There were even Italian mothers who showed me phots of their daughters and offered me to come to Italy to work for them. They were christians yet they were in lourdes having sex with other men.i can tell you some were even married too.
peace
yaqovzadeek
Aka James the Just

little_wing · May 25, 2006

yaqovzadeek said:
They were Christians.There were even Italian mothers who showed me phots of their daughters and offered me to come to Italy to work for them. They were christians yet they were in lourdes having sex with other men.i can tell you some were even married too.So it shows you that christianity has no values.

Some people blew up some buildings in New York. Those people were Muslims. Just goes to show that Islam has no values.

Same logic as yours, no?

Both arguments are of course fallacious.

bunnysfriend · May 25, 2006

yaqovzadeek quote said:
I think I made it clear that i am not boasting and blaming the womenI am blaming the western values and their false religions of lipservice, that have brainwashed these women into thinking their bodies are to be treated in this way. women are encouraged to bear all and have sex at very young ages.my point is not to judge and blame the women, as i always say those were my Bad boy days i acknowledge I was a bad boy i committed a lot of sin, But Islam came and rescued me, cleansed me of my sins because I repented and promised never to go back to those sins again.i have devoted my life to serving GOD. Again i make it clear that I don't judge them i wish i could meet them again and offer them Islam. Actually the first girlfriend I had was a chinese girl and I was happy about 10 years ago while on holiday to find out that she was now a devout muslim and had married a muslim man.I wished all the best.i nearly cried cos her dad was a 7 day adventist preacher.So i wish the same for all the other ladies that I have known that GOD guide them.i don't blame them but i blame the immoral society and their fasle religions they are born and raised in,or live in devoid of Islam.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
Aka james the Just

i think it is you that has ben brain washed. ive grown up in a western society, been taught in a western school and i have never been " encouraged to bear all and have sex at very young age". where on earth are you getting this from?! its common knowledge that people who have multiple sex partners and parade their bodies around are not admired by most, there are a many derogatory names for them, a few starting with 's'.
you vew all christians in the same light as you do the people who you knew in your youth. thats not right. in school i had a muslim friend, who would go on and no about how she was muslim, yet she would roll up her skirt, "expose her (considerably large) breasts", with the purpose of attracting men. she would drink alchohol and go to night clubs and try to attract men. we were young at the time so i dont know how far she would go, but i know she kissed a guy. now i dont judge all muslim morals by what my friend did, why do you do the same to christians?
and FYI, some guys dont need Islam to stop them sleeping around with women, i know men that respect women and choose not to be like how you were, even though they have the chance, and they have no faith at all. its because from the start they respected themselves and women, and know that kind of behaviour is wrong. most people have good morals without Islam to guide them.

bunnysfriend · May 25, 2006

id like to give a big to everyone!!!

peaceinislam · May 25, 2006

i think it is you that has ben brain washed. ive grown up in a western society, been taught in a western school and i have never been " encouraged to bear all and have sex at very young age". where on earth are you getting this from?!

statistics. rape, teenage abortion etc.

Some people blew up some buildings in New York. Those people were Muslims. Just goes to show that Islam has no values.

Same logic as yours, no?

Both arguments are of course fallacious.

peaceinislam · May 25, 2006

Some people blew up some buildings in New York. Those people were Muslims. Just goes to show that Islam has no values.

Same logic as yours, no?

Both arguments are of course fallacious.

bad things. but again statistics. the history of the western world is filled with massive violence, wars, civil wars etc. - right up into the 20th century. the muslim world has no tradition of genocide. thats gotta count for something.

warghaha · May 25, 2006

bunnysfriend said:
id like to give a big to everyone!!!

Noooo! Not by a bunny. Your ears freaks me out.

full_of_faith · May 25, 2006

LightOfEyes said:
Then no wonder bela hemar that most of christians are adulterers. That's due to your limited understanding of Islam.

Where is your proof? Do you have statistics or some type of study and/or documentation to back up your statement?

Futuwwa · May 26, 2006

peaceinislam said:
the muslim world has no tradition of genocide. thats gotta count for something.

Tell that to the Armenians who attempted secession from the Ottoman Empire during WWI.

Having a rosy-eyed view of one's history is no good, and it certainly impresses nobody in an argument.

little_wing · May 26, 2006

peaceinislam said:
bad things. but again statistics. the history of the western world is filled with massive violence, wars, civil wars etc. - right up into the 20th century. the muslim world has no tradition of genocide. thats gotta count for something.

Please. Human history is a long sordid tale of war and suffering. Don't even begin to pretend that Islamic people are any different.

Yusuf Evans · May 26, 2006

Janissary said:
Tell that to the Armenians who attempted secession from the Ottoman Empire during WWI.

Having a rosy-eyed view of one's history is no good, and it certainly impresses nobody in an argument.

Bingo . Imagine if the U.S. didn't learn from the Civil War the horrors of slavery, or the Germans didn't stop their relentless assault on the world.

MercuryAndy · May 26, 2006

Janissary said:
Tell that to the Armenians who attempted secession from the Ottoman Empire during WWI.

Having a rosy-eyed view of one's history is no good, and it certainly impresses nobody in an argument.

Political opposition is no reason to commit genocide. That is what hitler done to the communists. You dont want to be like hitler... Do you?

LightOfEyes · May 26, 2006

AlHannah said:
What is it with you LightofEyes? The book is about imagery and typology! It is full of symbolism. For further study read The Song of Songs by Watchman Nee. This book will give you some spiritual insight to what it is really saying.
Salaam.

Salam sister ALHannah,

before that I'd like to offer you to read what the Quran said when it orders Muslims to not commit nor even approach to the fornication, its great meaning not by mention sex stories in shamfull words. like in the bible. Then you compare it with the song of song and see the difference. thats proves that the bible has been corrupted.
Peace.

Exegete12 · May 26, 2006

One point here: do you want to live under a religion of grace or a religion of law?

Muslim woman caught in adultery = stoning
Christian woman caught in adultery = forgiveness

Christianity gives grace to people who may fall into sin.

The New Covenant represents a shift in focus within God's dealings with the human race. It is called the Dispensation of Grace, and it is a radical change from the Old Testament's Dispensation of Law (Judaism and Islam).

Under the Dispensation of Grace, complete obedience to a set of religious laws and regulations is not required as a means of securing a degree of righteousness that will please God.

Having faith to believe that Jesus completely fulfilled all of the laws of God on behalf of all who would put their trust in Him bestows the gift of righteousness to Christians. Selah.

little_wing · May 26, 2006

MercuryAndy said:
Political opposition is no reason to commit genocide. That is what hitler done to the communists. You dont want to be like hitler... Do you?

Mate...what are you talking about? No-one claimed any justification for genocide. In any case, Hitler did not commit genocide against communists, because communists aren't a race. Killing communists is just plain old murder, genocide is the murder of a specific racial or cultural group.

yaqovzadeek · May 26, 2006

little_wing said:
Mate...what are you talking about? No-one claimed any justification for genocide....................... genocide is the murder of a specific racial or cultural group.

Yeah like the Bosnians and chechnians and the Palestians of Sabra and Shatilla Massacred in the millions.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
aka James the Just

little_wing · May 26, 2006

yaqovzadeek said:
Yeah like the Bosnians and chechnians and the Palestians of Sabra and Shatilla Massacred in the millions.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
aka James the Just

Bah this partisan stuff is boring. Genocide isn't a religious thing, guys. Get over it.

MercuryAndy · May 26, 2006

yaqovzadeek said:
Yeah like the Bosnians and chechnians and the Palestians of Sabra and Shatilla Massacred in the millions.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
aka James the Just

But our christian soldires were there to protect the muslems. Ha i win =)

Catherineanne · May 26, 2006

yaqovzadeek said:
Islam gives you the choice of Good and bad , Allah in the quran points it out clearly. The ones who chooose the right path will be rewarded with Good, and those who choose the wrong path will be punished. they are muslims who have chosen the wrong path, In Islam allah is merciful he accepts repentance for those who decide to abandon the wrong path and choose the right.There are muslims who have chosen the wrong path too that is up to them.

No it doesn't. Countries which operate strict Islamic law take away freedom of behaviour, and impose strict behavioural laws from the outside.

I have a Moslem relation who was one day sitting in a public hotel lobby in a Moslem country, talking with her brother. She was called to the desk and asked to provide proof that they both had the same parents. What is this all about? This is, imo, indicative of an appalling infringement of basic human rights. Fortunately for them both, they were brother and sister, and could prove it from their passports.

This kind of paranoia does not say much for cultural presuppositions about the heart of the average Moslem, does it?

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