http://gaychristian.net/

[BlueAfgani]

That's like saying someone is a dog and cat at he same time.

There's a lot more to concervatism than hating gays.

Matter of fact, hating gays has nothing to do with real concervative principles like personal responsibility, small government, low taxes, and lots of freedom.

 

[ReformedChapin]

I need to provide evidence that gay conservatives or even pro-gay conservatives exist, when the population of the United States ALONE is millions and millions of people. There is at least ONE person out there who is a gay conservative who's beliefs are similar to yours. There's no PROVE IT about it. What, you want me to go out and interview people just to get your evidence?

Supporting gay marriage isn't a "liberal" characteristic. There is no where in any liberal description that says "you must support gays" just like there's nothing in the conservative description that say "you can't support gays".

If it makes you feel better, there are liberals who are against gays. Also, thank you for acknowledging that gay's can be Christian.

Yes, it is. Again, we are talking about theology not politics you need to learn to differentiate.

 

[ReformedChapin]

There's a lot more to concervatism than hating gays.

Matter of fact, hating gays has nothing to do with real concervative principles like personal responsibility, small government, low taxes, and lots of freedom.

Please stop with the useless rhetoric...thanks.

 

[BlueAfgani]

Tell me how many gays you find in the Conservative Christian forums congregation. Alright...Good Luck.

That's because many of those Christians are just a different level of big brother liberal. The only difference is that instead of controlling your wallet, they want to control your behavior.

I'm quite conservative myself, in the issues that matter, and you wouldn't find me in there, either.

 

[ReformedChapin]

That's because many of those Christians are just a different level of big brother liberal. The only difference is that instead of controlling your wallet, they want to control your behavior.

I'm quite conservative myself, in the issues that matter, and you wouldn't find me in there, either.

Again, we are talking about theology since we are in the theology forum.

 

[BlueAfgani]

Please stop with the useless rhetoric...thanks.

This post is useless rhetoric since you found the content of my post to difficult to address.

 

[ReformedChapin]

This post is useless rhetoric since you found the content of my post to difficult to address.

There is no content to address more of the "cry cry" liberal talk. Stick to a debate subject.

 

[BlueAfgani]

The reason why they are restrictive is because of the relativistic nature of this website. That includes gays who claim to be conservative but cannot be because of their view of theology.

When are you going to stop confusing political terms with religious ones?

Sorry but relativism isn't a valid argument.

That was actually just common sence...but ok.

 

[BlueAfgani]

There is no content to address more of the "cry cry" liberal talk. Stick to a debate subject.

I did, now perhaps you could give it a try, or would you rather just keep mocking me as a supposed liberal?

 

[Ohioprof]

There is no content to address more of the "cry cry" liberal talk. Stick to a debate subject.

Are you having a bad day? Your recent posts seem particularly dismissive of and disrespectful toward others for some reason. You writing has more impact when you are not so dismissive, I think.

On the subject at hand, I think you are right that there is a distinction to be made between a theological conservative and a political conservative. There is often overlap between the two, but not always. Mr. Conservative himself, Barry Goldwater, decried the religious right and declared that they were "ruining our party," meaning the Republican Party. Goldwater was the classic example of a political conservative who was not a theological conservative.

I do think we need to be careful about throwing labels around willy nilly without carefully explaining what we mean. There has been talk recently of theological conservatives embracing environmental activism, which has long been considered a "liberal" cause. I think we can also find examples of theological conservatives and theological liberals in some cases working together in common cause. You can find that among people working to end poverty, for example.

There may be more common ground between theological conservatives and theological liberals than most of us realize.

 

[ReformedChapin]

Are you having a bad day? Your recent posts seem particularly dismissive of and disrespectful toward others for some reason. You writing has more impact when you are not so dismissive, I think.

On the subject at hand, I think you are right that there is a distinction to be made between a theological conservative and a political conservative. There is often overlap between the two, but not always. Mr. Conservative himself, Barry Goldwater, decried the religious right and declared that they were "ruining our party," meaning the Republican Party. Goldwater was the classic example of a political conservative who was not a theological conservative.

I do think we need to be careful about throwing labels around willy nilly without carefully explaining what we mean. There has been talk recently of theological conservatives embracing environmental activism, which has long been considered a "liberal" cause. I think we can also find examples of theological conservatives and theological liberals in some cases working together in common cause. You can find that among people working to end poverty, for example.

There may be more common ground between theological conservatives and theological liberals than most of us realize.

First of all, all theological conseravtives embrace environmental activism although we don't always make a priority. We must do so since God gave us this world and we must take care of it.

Second, because political conservatism overlaps in some issues, that doesn't mean anything torts theology.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Ohioprof,

I am gay.

and I am Christian.

I do not identify myself according to my "sexual desires." Being gay for me is about much more than "sexual desires." It's about whom I love and want to form a relationship with.

thats your definition, the gay definition. I have also given the Christian definition, when in Christ all are one.

 

[David Brider]

Again...I said theologically.

A gay "conservative" is no different than a atheist that is conservative.

The gayconservatives.net website appears to be using conservative in its (US) political sense rather than in its theological sense.

David.