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I am just wondering, are you bored with your marriage or is there another reason you want to get out of it?
But to answer your question, from what I have seen, most must accept moving substantially down the ladder of finances in order to achieve seperation from their spouse. I once lived in a lovely home with large yard, gardener, house keeper (I mean excluding my wife), fruit trees, all the amenities of a lovely married life. Now I rent as room (private entrance and bath room) for $600 a month here in the San Francisco Bay Area. I once had an Acura Integra, now I have Toyota Corolla. :sorry::sigh:
 
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I am just wondering, are you bored with your marriage or is there another reason you want to get out of it?
But to answer your question, from what I have seen, most must accept moving substantially down the ladder of finances in order to achieve seperation from their spouse. I once lived in a lovely home with large yard, gardener, house keeper (I mean excluding my wife), fruit trees, all the amenities of a lovely married life. Now I rent as room (private entrance and bath room) for $600 a month here in the San Francisco Bay Area. I once had an Acura Integra, now I have Toyota Corolla. :sorry::sigh:

Am I bored with me marriage? I wish I had a marriage to be bored with! I would love to be bored instead of feeling like a nothing 99% of the time. I'd love to be bored instead of being yelled at, put down, and belittled to the point of me not even caring about life anymore.

Bored? I wish.
 
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Am I bored with me marriage? I wish I had a marriage to be bored with! I would love to be bored instead of feeling like a nothing 99% of the time. I'd love to be bored instead of being yelled at, put down, and belittled to the point of me not even caring about life anymore.

Bored? I wish.
Have you and your husband tried Christian counselling? If he doesnt want to go, then perhaps if you went alone, and told him of the things you are learning about yourself, maybe he would become curious about going too. Iknow that a lot of problems come out of simple misunderstandings, underlying feelings and a lack of good comunication.
 
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No, it doesn't help. Nothing helps. He wouldn't believe anything that I said. He would tell me that I was just making it all up. He would tell me that I need more than just a marriage counselor, that I needed a shrink. And than he would slam out of the house and go wherever it is that he goes at night.
 
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No, it doesn't help. Nothing helps. He wouldn't believe anything that I said. He would tell me that I was just making it all up. He would tell me that I need more than just a marriage counselor, that I needed a shrink. And than he would slam out of the house and go wherever it is that he goes at night.
What is his reasoning? Have you told him how you feel? For his information, more often than not a marriage counselor is a therapist or even a psychiatrist. Where to you think he is going? Is he hanging out with his buddies or what?
 
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What is his reasoning? Have you told him how you feel? For his information, more often than not a marriage counselor is a therapist or even a psychiatrist. Where to you think he is going? Is he hanging out with his buddies or what?

His reasoning for not going to a marriage counselor is because he sees nothing wrong in the marriage. He has free well to do whatever he pleases, when he pleases, and has someone at home waiting for him when he decides to. He has someone to cook for him, clean for him, and take care of him, and give him love whenever he needs/wants it. (which by the way is maybe once every two weeks). His free time is exactly that....HIS FREE TIME! God forbid if I ask him to change a light bulb, or mow the yard on HIS FREE TIME! God forbid if he has to actually have a conversation with me on HIS FREE TIME!

I've been to a counselor, and he told me to leave him. I've talked to my pastor and he has told me to leave him. I did leave him for a year, but I couldn't take care of the children on my own. I ran up my credit cards in order to live. I feed them, and I went hungry. So I went back. And I've been back since. But I'm just a shadow of the person I once was. I don't even know the meaning of happiness anymore. I want out, but I'm afraid.
 
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His reasoning for not going to a marriage counselor is because he sees nothing wrong in the marriage. He has free well to do whatever he pleases, when he pleases, and has someone at home waiting for him when he decides to. He has someone to cook for him, clean for him, and take care of him, and give him love whenever he needs/wants it. (which by the way is maybe once every two weeks). His free time is exactly that....HIS FREE TIME! God forbid if I ask him to change a light bulb, or mow the yard on HIS FREE TIME! God forbid if he has to actually have a conversation with me on HIS FREE TIME!

I've been to a counselor, and he told me to leave him. I've talked to my pastor and he has told me to leave him. I did leave him for a year, but I couldn't take care of the children on my own. I ran up my credit cards in order to live. I feed them, and I went hungry. So I went back. And I've been back since. But I'm just a shadow of the person I once was. I don't even know the meaning of happiness anymore. I want out, but I'm afraid.
Do you have a job outside your home? If not, since your children are no longer with you, maybe you should try to get one so you will have an income of your own. How did your leaving your husband react when you left the first time? Did you get a legal seperation and/or divorce? It might be favorable to go on strike in an effort to save your marriage.
 
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It wasn't a legal seperation. I just left, and no, he didn't care. He said "if that's what you want to do, do it". So I did. He never once sent us any money. Only called maybe every other week to talk to his daughter. When I went back I went back to a marriage that was so far into debt because of his drinking and extra curricular activities that it took me over a year to get everything back under control. And that was only his bills. It took me a lot longer to get mine under control.

I do have a job, but it doesn't pay much. After my car payment (which is a very old car by the way), insurance, rent payment, and all the other things that come with living on your own, there won't be anything left over for food. In fact, I would have to find a place right near work because I wouldn't even be able to afford gas. But that would save on a car payment wouldn't it? (ha ha. I'm trying to find some humor in this)

Since you know that my daughter's are no longer with me, I guess you've read my profile. But you what you don't know is that my youngest daughter is living with his oldest daughter right now. If I left him I would never see my baby again, and I love her more than anything. Sending her away bout killed me. It really would kill me if I was never to see her again. And he won't let me bring her back home.

Bottom line? That's what's bugging me today. The fact that they have my daughter, and he is allowing them to turn her against me, and I can't get her back. I can't leave because I would be leaving her, and he won't let her come back. Instead he just allows his daughters to fill her mind with lies. He allows them to continuelly put me down to her, and worse yet, he agrees with everything they say about me. Never once has he come to my rescue with them. Never once has he taken up for me, and told them that their opinion of me is wrong. And now they've got my daughter. MY DAUGHTER, and I want her back! I want her back before I lose her too! But I can't leave until I get her back. I have to get my daughter back!
 
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It wasn't a legal seperation. I just left, and no, he didn't care. He said "if that's what you want to do, do it". So I did. He never once sent us any money. Only called maybe every other week to talk to his daughter. When I went back I went back to a marriage that was so far into debt because of his drinking and extra curricular activities that it took me over a year to get everything back under control. And that was only his bills. It took me a lot longer to get mine under control.

I do have a job, but it doesn't pay much. After my car payment (which is a very old car by the way), insurance, rent payment, and all the other things that come with living on your own, there won't be anything left over for food. In fact, I would have to find a place right near work because I wouldn't even be able to afford gas. But that would save on a car payment wouldn't it? (ha ha. I'm trying to find some humor in this)

Since you know that my daughter's are no longer with me, I guess you've read my profile. But you what you don't know is that my youngest daughter is living with his oldest daughter right now. If I left him I would never see my baby again, and I love her more than anything. Sending her away bout killed me. It really would kill me if I was never to see her again. And he won't let me bring her back home.

Bottom line? That's what's bugging me today. The fact that they have my daughter, and he is allowing them to turn her against me, and I can't get her back. I can't leave because I would be leaving her, and he won't let her come back. Instead he just allows his daughters to fill her mind with lies. He allows them to continuelly put me down to her, and worse yet, he agrees with everything they say about me. Never once has he come to my rescue with them. Never once has he taken up for me, and told them that their opinion of me is wrong. And now they've got my daughter. MY DAUGHTER, and I want her back! I want her back before I lose her too! But I can't leave until I get her back. I have to get my daughter back!
Ok, then, it's really got to do with your daughter as opposed to finances? Is she your daughter? Then what is preventing you from seeing her or having her move back home? Why did she go away in the first place? If she is your daughter, no one can legally stop you from seeing her or even from having her move back home. What kind of lies are they telling her? Is she old enough to know better? I mean if she has lived with you all her life, then she would tend to know better wouldnt she? Is she in her teens?
 
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Hey c1ners.

It's tough, ain't it? If yer anything like me, you just want to be appreciated and know what love is from yer partner, the kind of love that you have no problem giving and showing, but don't seem to ever get it back? Well, that's me anyways.

I can't offer any advice or hope, my wife left me with 4 kids and I'm about to go on benefits while she is in a flat nearby so she can see the kids dinnertimes.

I feel for you, girl. but maybe you can find some peace. The truth is that our children belong to God. When we give them to God, God will give us what is good for us and them. A bit philosophical? Sorry, I dont mean to be glib, this is just a reality I'm having to face and live. It works for me.

If I'm honest, I found Gimpys responces a bit harsh, but then he could just be a problem-solver and so it is just his way. No offence, Gimpy, cos you seem cool in other threads, aight?

Question: how did you end up without your daughter? I mean, my own ex wanted freedom, what is your story?
 
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Hey c1ners.

It's tough, ain't it? If yer anything like me, you just want to be appreciated and know what love is from yer partner, the kind of love that you have no problem giving and showing, but don't seem to ever get it back? Well, that's me anyways.

I can't offer any advice or hope, my wife left me with 4 kids and I'm about to go on benefits while she is in a flat nearby so she can see the kids dinnertimes.

I feel for you, girl. but maybe you can find some peace. The truth is that our children belong to God. When we give them to God, God will give us what is good for us and them. A bit philosophical? Sorry, I dont mean to be glib, this is just a reality I'm having to face and live. It works for me.

If I'm honest, I found Gimpys responces a bit harsh, but then he could just be a problem-solver and so it is just his way. No offence, Gimpy, cos you seem cool in other threads, aight?

Question: how did you end up without your daughter? I mean, my own ex wanted freedom, what is your story?
No problem. I have explained myself to C1ers and believe she understands where I am coming from. ( I hope so anyway.) I am only trying to get a clear understanding of where she is. I truely feel for her. And I think I explained that to her also.
 
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You guys are funny, and you've BOTH been so helpful. Thank you very much. :hug:

I'm sorry that I just left this thread yesterday. I really couldn't write anymore. I worked myself into a frenzy, and needed time to calm down before I posted anything else. But I'm a little calmer today, so maybe I can go on.

You asked about my daughter and how I've become astringed from her. I'll start off with that this morning. (I do have a meeting soon, so I may not be able to get through it all) My daughter (both of them) has always been a very good girl. Very much on fire for God. Very loving, and very sensitive. They've both always longed for a more meaningful relationship with my husband, just like I have. She's never really gotten along with the other kids from church. She's always been pulled towards the underdogs. She would take her bible to school in order to witness to these people. I always thought that her calling might be to go into ministry. The three of us have always been very close. I've tried my hardest to make up for the lack of attention they got from their dad. Because of this lack of attention on my part I sort of made them my number one priority. My girls are my life, and I love them so very much.

Anyhow, when my daughter entered High School she got into the wrong crowd. She was tired of being so unpopular, and always being picked on by the other kids. She met this boy and started becoming very close to him. He was bad. Very very bad. She lost her virginity to this boy because she wanted so badly to be loved by him. He's the type of boy that thinks of sex as a hand shake. It's very common for him to do it with someone, but it doesn't mean a thing. Her grades started dropping, she started cutting school. She even started not wanting to go to church anymore. It got to the point that I hardly knew her. She became angry, sick, and lazy. Numerous times she tried breaking up with this boy, but for some reason, she always came back. Once she broke up with him and he threatened to come to our house and kill her. Not only her, but me along with her, because I'm the one who was trying to keep them apart. Yes, I called the police. They brushed it off as a teenger in love. But she went back, and things went from bad to worse. I tried desperately to get my husband involved, but he didn't want to bother. Instead he would tell me what to do, and have me punish her. Of course because I had to do the punishing, recent for me grew to the point where she almost hated me. In fact, I was reading some of her stuff one day, and that's what they were filled with. Hatred towards me, and how she was planning on running away with this boy. Talking to his parents didn't help. Talking to the police didn't help. At this time I didn't know she was having sex with him.

Every summer she goes out of state to spend a month or so with her sisters. My husbands older daughters from his previous marriage. After she left is when I started going through her things and found out she had been having sex with this boy, and of how much she hated me. I also found beer cans in her bedroom, and her window screen under her bed. I had to do something. I love her so much that I couldn't just sit there and allow her to ruin her life over this boy. So I told her she couldn't come back home. That decision killed me. It was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. It wasn't done out of anger, or because I don't love her. But instead it was done out of LOVE. But because I've had to make this decision, I've been told by his children what an awful mother I am. That because I sent her away that I must not love her. My husband even tells me that I was the one who sent her away, so I have no say so in anything else. He's even told me that I'm not to call her and bother her. That if she wants to talk to me, she'll call me. It's killing me inside to think that she is being told that I don't love her. That I'm not a good mom. I want so bad to get her back. I want so bad for her to love me again. But how can she when everyone she is close to tells her that I'm the bad one? She'll call now and talk to her dad. That's good in a way, because she's getting closer to him, but it's also breaking my heart that's she's getting more distant from me. Life isn't fair. My girls were my life. I gave them every ounce of love I had within me. My oldest daughter married and moved out of the country in June. The following week I had to send my youngest away. Within a week I lost both my girls. And now I have no one. I come home at night and sit alone. Even when my husband is home, I still sit alone. He doesn't talk to me. He doesn't take me out. He doesn't care about how bad I'm hurting inside. All he cares about is himself.

Yesterday I got some pretty hateful emails from one of his daughters. I printed them, and gave them to my husband last night. They've always tried to split us up. They tell him things that are so unreal that I can't believe he actually believes them, but he does. So I gave him the emails last night, and what does he do? He starts yelling at me because I must have done something to them again to deserve it. He gets mad because he thinks I'm always trying to come between them, and that's just not true! All I want is for him to see that it isn't me who is the one being mean. That I'm not the big bad step mother that I've always been described as. I want him to be on my side for a change. For him to hold me, and tell me that he believes I'm not bad. I don't know why he even stays married to me if he thinks that I'm such a monster. I just don't understand!

Can't write anymore. Sorry.
 
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C1ners, I know where you are coming from. Night before last I spent all night in the emrgency room because my daughter sliced up her legs because her boyfriend broke up with her. I can't tell her dad because he will blame it on me. She has done this before and it was my fault then, so I'm sure it would be my fault this time too.
 
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C1ners, I know where you are coming from. Night before last I spent all night in the emrgency room because my daughter sliced up her legs because her boyfriend broke up with her. I can't tell her dad because he will blame it on me. She has done this before and it was my fault then, so I'm sure it would be my fault this time too.

But why? Why does it always have to be our faults? Why when something happens do I always get blamed for it? I'm not a bad person. I'm not, but sometimes I think that maybe they're right. Maybe it is me. Maybe I'm doing something or not doing something that makes me out to be bad. When people who are soposed to love you tell you bad things about yourself over and over again, you eventually start believing them. If it were everyone, I might believe it, but it's only them. It's only my husband and his children. Even still, it's gotten to the point were I'm afraid to do anything in fear that it's going to be wrong, and I'm going to either get yelled at for it, or be made fun of for it. My only excape is my job. I know people here respect me. Here I'm told that I'm smart, and I'm beautiful. But once I get home I get told of all my many flaws. I'm not a good enough house keeper (even though I do everything around the house), I'm not smart enough for him to talk to me. The shows I like to watch on TV are stupid, so they get changed right in the middle. I'm not pretty. He has no desire for me. His children are smarted than me. His ex wife gets more attention than me. The list goes on and on. The only thing that I haven't been through is physical abuse. Once he put his hands around my throat. Just once. But he dropped them as soon as he realized what he was doing. They didn't even tighten. And that's within 15 years of being married. Besides that one event, no physical violence has occured. So because of that I feel like I should stay, but I'm losing myself. I'm honestly losing myself. Not only myself, but my faith in God. I pray to him. I ask him to guide me. I ask him to help me be the wife and mother he wants me to be. I ask him to give me answers in what to do, but I don't feel anything. Only emptiness. Only lonliness. I feel like he's here for other people, but he's forgotten about me and Jacqui.
 
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There is so much here, it is difficult for me to read because it saddens me so much. You seem so boxed in other than work. It seems you have no support. Maybe I missed this somewhere, but do you have anyone close to you, like a brother or sister you can relate to, maybe a parent? Do you have a close friend you can lean on?
 
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