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BjBarnett

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The Lord's Envoy said:
I would not be to supportive of such a marriage personally. The faiths are diametrically opposed. Your kids would have to be raised Catholic no? I would also be strongly opposed there and I would reject infant baptism. This however doesnt mean that I would hate you or anything like that. That would be biblically wrong, but I would have stand up for what I thought. If I believed you were wrong, why would I allow my daughter, or her kids be raised in that.

Hopefully I never have to deal with this issue, however, I would have nipped it in the bud as a parent. I would have ended the relationship early on by saying "No." And thats because either dating carries the ultimate goal of marriage or something else.


How does she feel about these issues?

thank you for your reply TLE. it is a very honest answer and i appreciate it.

so basically what you are saying is you would end it before it got started it if it were your daughter? interesting.

also Crystal is for the idea of getting married in a Catholic church by a priest (actually she may want to get married outside which is fine by me ^_^). She is also fine with bringing the children up in the faith. like i said before she is on the road of conversion.
 
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Uncle Bud said:
I think that if we are going raise our kids to make informed decisions and they still choose to marry a catholic and raise the kids catholic then who am i to say otherwise? I may ask them some pointed questions, and would make sure they knew what they were doing, but in the end we have to trust that we taught them well enough.

Pollyanna I know...

I agree. once our kids are of the age of 18 we can only hope that we have taught them the right path and that they will use those teachings to make the right decisions.
 
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Uncle Bud said:
Oh sure that will work ;) How long has it been since you were a teen? My mom said don't do it, I did it. :)

I didnt become a Christian until i was 18. So I remember everything that I did to be sneaky sneaky. Thats why if you raise your kid to respect you, and they understand what the bible says about listening to your parents, well then it should work out.


Call me naive if you will, however if that be the case then due punishment is in order. :D :p
 
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BjBarnett said:
thank you for your reply TLE. it is a very honest answer and i appreciate it.

so basically what you are saying is you would end it before it got started it if it were your daughter? interesting.

also Crystal is for the idea of getting married in a Catholic church by a priest (actually she may want to get married outside which is fine by me ^_^). She is also fine with bringing the children up in the faith. like i said before she is on the road of conversion.

Your welcome. And yes thats what I am saying. Its the buisness of the parent to do what he/she feels is in the best interest of the child. In this case, as was pointed out earlier, that on either side the fullness of truth would be viewed as lacking. The first thing I'd want to know about this kid is if he's Christian. I'd sit down and have a talk with him, I would probe his understanding of the faith. The second thing I'd want to know is what denomination. If I dont like it, then he's gone. Plain and simple. I would make him understand it as well.

As a parent I think I would be irresponible not to.
 
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TLE,

just wondering but would it make a difference if your daughter married a pentecostal, luthern, methodist, or so forth? or is it just the differences between the Baptist and the Catholic's that would make you not approve of the marriage?
 
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The Lord's Envoy said:
I didnt become a Christian until i was 18. So I remember everything that I did to be sneaky sneaky. Thats why if you raise your kid to respect you, and they understand what the bible says about listening to your parents, well then it should work out.


Call me naive if you will, however if that be the case then due punishment is in order. :D :p
I think we as Christians can be glad that Karma is a horse hockey belief otherwise some of us would be getting our butts handed to us by our kids someday...LOL

I agree in a perfect world a kid would listen to the parent. And in some cases it does happen that a kid will listen to their parent. These kids usually get their lunch money stolen and are candidates for super wedgies, but they are around :)
 
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Uncle Bud said:
I think we as Christians can be glad that Karma is a horse hockey belief otherwise some of us would be getting our butts handed to us by our kids someday...LOL

I agree in a perfect world a kid would listen to the parent. And in some cases it does happen that a kid will listen to their parent. These kids usually get their lunch money stolen and are candidates for super wedgies, but they are around :)

Kids dont listen to your uncle, you can be cool and obeidiant too. Uncle Bud just has a fever right now :D ^_^
 
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The Lord's Envoy said:
Your welcome. And yes thats what I am saying. Its the buisness of the parent to do what he/she feels is in the best interest of the child. In this case, as was pointed out earlier, that on either side the fullness of truth would be viewed as lacking. The first thing I'd want to know about this kid is if he's Christian. I'd sit down and have a talk with him, I would probe his understanding of the faith. The second thing I'd want to know is what denomination. If I dont like it, then he's gone. Plain and simple. I would make him understand it as well.

As a parent I think I would be irresponible not to.

i agree with you to an extent. I probably wouldnt let my son/daughter date a non-christian. thanks again for your answer. I hope my future inlaws dont take that approach though lol ^_^
 
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Uncle Bud said:
hahaha...

You have no proof that being obedient is cool because there is no such thing as an obedient teenager. It is an oxymoron

:eek: grumble grumble grumble.
:eek: grumble grumble grumble.
:eek: grumble grumble grumble.
:eek: grumble grumble grumble.

Bro. Mark
 
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I have a question, and I would ask it just this way if I were the parent of the Baptist daughter. If the Lord put you two together how did you together, come to the conclusion to convert the Baptist to Catholic, and not to the conclusion to convert the Catholic to Baptist? I would facilitate a conversation between the two of them on this issue. I would see that discussion as important.
 
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BjBarnett said:
Hello everyone!

I have a question. this may seem like an odd question but never the less its one id like to have your opinions on :D

anyway how would you (as Baptist) feel about a Catholic (like me ^_^) marrying into a entirely Baptist family? If you were apart of this family (who is entirely Baptist) what would your feelings be about this? How would you feel about your child (or cousin or niece) marrying in a Catholic church by a Catholic priest? any input here would be greatly appreciated :) thanks in advanced.

I think it would depend on how devout you are. If you constantly went around telling us all that catholicism is superior or the only way and trying to convert us, that would be annoying and hard to take over the long run. But if you are willing to accept our differences and love us anyway, I think it would be okay.

Having been born of a catholic/presbyterian marriage, they can work, but they are harder because both people aren't on the same spiritual path so to speak. If one is receiving grace through sacrements and sacrementals and the other one doesn't want to deal with all that because they believe in grace by faith alone, it can create a lot of friction that marital love cannot overcome. My parents dealt with it by committing themselves to one faith and to raising us children in that faith. It was hard for my dad, but the fact that my mother was also a born-again believer who trusted in salvation through faith in Christ alone made it somewhat better. He sacrificed a lot spiritually, to maintain his commitment to my mom, and I don't think he ever regretted it, but I know after my mom died, he went back to the church where he grew up and felt he belonged.

Neither family completely rejected the other person, but neither fully accepted the other either.

It is better to marry someone on the same spiritual path as you are, because no marriage can be successful if you aren't walking together in the same direction!
 
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eldermike said:
I have a question, and I would ask it just this way if I were the parent of the Baptist daughter. If the Lord put you two together how did you together, come to the conclusion to convert the Baptist to Catholic, and not to the conclusion to convert the Catholic to Baptist? I would facilitate a conversation between the two of them on this issue. I would see that discussion as important.

do you want me to answer that? or is that just what you would do?
 
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lambslove said:
I think it would depend on how devout you are. If you constantly went around telling us all that catholicism is superior or the only way and trying to convert us, that would be annoying and hard to take over the long run. But if you are willing to accept our differences and love us anyway, I think it would be okay.

Having been born of a catholic/presbyterian marriage, they can work, but they are harder because both people aren't on the same spiritual path so to speak. If one is receiving grace through sacrements and sacrementals and the other one doesn't want to deal with all that because they believe in grace by faith alone, it can create a lot of friction that marital love cannot overcome. My parents dealt with it by committing themselves to one faith and to raising us children in that faith. It was hard for my dad, but the fact that my mother was also a born-again believer who trusted in salvation through faith in Christ alone made it somewhat better. He sacrificed a lot spiritually, to maintain his commitment to my mom, and I don't think he ever regretted it, but I know after my mom died, he went back to the church where he grew up and felt he belonged.

Neither family completely rejected the other person, but neither fully accepted the other either.

It is better to marry someone on the same spiritual path as you are, because no marriage can be successful if you aren't walking together in the same direction!

well crystal and i are walking on the same spirtual path because she is converting to Catholicism. the problem really lies with the family on the matter.
 
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BjBarnett said:
well crystal and i are walking on the same spirtual path because she is converting to Catholicism. the problem really lies with the family on the matter.

I would have a heart-to-heart talk with my daughter and ask her why she wanted to convert, and if it was merely so she could marry a catholic man, then I would encourage her to wait to marry until she is more mature. Changing religions merely to please some man is immature and dangerous. If he requires you to convert to his religion or he won't marry you, then he will demand other concessions at some time or another, too. If he is willing to force you to bend to his will on something important like religion, then he will probably dominate the relationship in all sorts of ways.

But if she was converting because after thorough research she feels that it is the correct view of salvation, and she can support that in terms I can understand, and not just something like, "The mass is so beautiful, that's why I want to be catholic," then I would step back and let her go.

Either way, I would love my daughter very much and never allow anything to come between us. And either way, once she was married, I would do everything to support that marriage.
 
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BjBarnett said:
Hello everyone!

I have a question. this may seem like an odd question but never the less its one id like to have your opinions on :D

anyway how would you (as Baptist) feel about a Catholic (like me ^_^) marrying into a entirely Baptist family? If you were apart of this family (who is entirely Baptist) what would your feelings be about this? How would you feel about your child (or cousin or niece) marrying in a Catholic church by a Catholic priest? any input here would be greatly appreciated :) thanks in advanced.

Well I can tell you how I feel, because I am Baptist, my oldest daughter married a Catholic.

I was devestated at first till I went to a Catholic service. I found that the Gospel of Jesus Christ was being proclaimed there. What else could I ask for?
 
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The man is suppose to be the spiritual leader of the home. If the husband and wife have different faiths where the doctrine is really different as in Catholic/Baptist how is the husband going to help her grow in her faith and beliefs? IMO a husband and wife should be of the same faith/doctrinal beliefs. Marriage can be hard enough without having "bigger issues" to constantly deal with.
As for the family part I know my parents would not be happy if I married someone who was outside of my faith and doctrinal beliefs. Even when a couple shares the same doctrinal beliefs but a different denomination can cause problems. My dad grew up in a Missionary Alliance church but became a Baptist in his 20's he met my mom in a Baptist church his mom wasn't too happy about it either and gave her opinion over it even though there really isn't any doctrinal differences.
You need to look at it from the parent's point of view too. You are taking their daughter who has been raised to believe doctrine totally different than what you do. I am sure you're aware what most Baptists believes about the Catholic church and it's doctrine. If Crystal is fine with what you believe and the Catholic church and you are both going to share your faith together and you know totally that it's God's will for you to be together then go for it. The Bible does talk about the husband/wife cleaving to each other and leaving their father/mother. That's not to say you totally cut them off either when you marry someone you're not only marrying them but the family as well in a sense.
 
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I haven't read the entire thread yet, since I prefer to address the original question before perusing opinions and answers LOL

I am baptist...My family is baptist, my sister is anglican, she married an anglican who's shortly to be ordained as a priest.

Religion is just that religion. The only thing that would matter to me (if this were my daughter) is how is his relationship with Jesus Christ? Is his faith grounded in the traditions of the church, or in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ? Does he seek God's will for his life, or does he go after his "own understanding"? A church is a church, it's wood, brick, mortar...It's the matter of his salvation that would matter to me.

Other things I would address would be about family structure. Will you honour my daughter in your marriage. Will you treat her as your own flesh? How will you teach my grandchildren? Will they be taught the gospel? Will there be daily family devotionals? As a father will you teach them the love and judgement of Jesus Christ. Will you see to it that their faith is scriptural?

But I also admit to be an overprotective mom. ;)
 
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