How would a nuclear war between Russia and the US affect you?

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You do realize that not everybody is obsessed with the American culture war issues right? Many European countries restrict abortion and disallow same-sex marriage. As a matter of fact, on the books at least, Russia is less restrictive in abortion than several US states. There are many many other human rights violations Russia is guilty of.
Is same sex marriage a human right?
 
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Not under European law, though many do allow it. But honestly, when it comes to Russia's human rights violations, outlawing SSM is near the bottom of the list.
You avoid a direct response why?

Is same sex marriage a human right in "your" opinion and belief?
 
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You avoid a direct response why?

Is same sex marriage a human right in "your" opinion and belief?
My opinion and belief doesn't matter since the topic of conversation is European values and how Russia doesn't adhere to them.
 
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Not under European law, though many do allow it. But honestly, when it comes to Russia's human rights violations, outlawing SSM is near the bottom of the list.
Outlawing same sex marriage is at the top of Russias list, it's enshrined in Russias constitution that marriage is between male/female, your claim is "False"
 
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My opinion and belief doesn't matter since the topic of conversation is European values and how Russia doesn't adhere to them.
The topic is Russia/USA Nuclear war

I have nothing to hide, same sex marriage is an abomination before the Lord God Jesus Christ, do you believe its a human right?
 
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Is a woman's choice to kill the innocent unborn (Abortion) a human right?

Is same sex marriage a human right?
It is a human right to be protected by the state, and not poisoned (as Nawalniy), shot (as Nemtsov), imprisoned for purely political reasons (no criminal act) or violated in another way.
 
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Outlawing same sex marriage is at the top of Russias list, it's enshrined in Russias constitution that marriage is between male/female, your claim is "False"
No my claim isn't false since that's not what I'm claiming. When I'm talking about bottom of the list, I'm not talking about how important the issue is or is not to Russia. I'm talking about how little it matters compared to other things Russia has done or allowed when it comes to human rights.
The topic is Russia/USA Nuclear war
Yes it is, but the post of mine that you started this was a response to somebody suggesting that Russia be part of the EU and various other agencies and me pointing out that Russia doesn't embrace European values. Abortion and LGBT+ rights might be included in that, but it's not a central issue.
I have nothing to hide, same sex marriage is an abomination before the Lord God Jesus Christ, do you believe its a human right?
I'm not going to answer that.
 
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The topic is Russia/USA Nuclear war

I have nothing to hide, same sex marriage is an abomination before the Lord God Jesus Christ, do you believe its a human right?

Murder is an abomination before the Lord, so much so that it's in the ten commandments. Russian soldiers, at Putin's order, are murdering Ukrainian civilians. Putin needs to repent!
 
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I think it will be the return of Jesus / it will affect us all one way or another
When Jesus returns it will be fire in final judgment, up in smoke (The End)!

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
 
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When Jesus returns it will be fire in final judgment, up in smoke (The End)!
According to the Bible, this end will happen about 1000 years after His return, see Rev 20:1-10.

Maybe the 1,000 is a symbolic number - but there will be some time between the return of Christ and the very end.
 
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My daughter-in-law is a Russian immigrant with her family of origin back in Russia. How would it affect me? If I survived, I would grieve for the suffering of humanity. Last year I visited Hiroshima. We should never stand still for this happening again.
 
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According to the Bible, this end will happen about 1000 years after His return, see Rev 20:1-10.

Maybe the 1,000 is a symbolic number - but there will be some time between the return of Christ and the very end.
Jesus returns in fire and final judgement (The End)

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 
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Jesus returns in fire and final judgement (The End)

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ
And how do you substantiate this claim?
2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
In the OT, you can see that the prophets do not distinguish between the first and second coming of Jesus. In Daniel 7, you see the four empires which were there before/at the time of Jesus' birth. So it is not unreasonable that Peter does not differentiate between the second coming of Jesus and the very end.
Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. …
This is after the 1,000 years mentioned a chapter before!

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
This will happen, but this is (according to revelation) not the destruction and the very end.
Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
The comparison is the judgement of God - not the details.
Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
You are not honest.
Rev 20:7-9 KJV And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

I can't imagine that you overlooked this,

Just piling verses which are irrelevant at a closer look may be excusable, but citing a verse out of context in the hope I will not know the context of the passage says the contrary than you want to demonstrate by it - this is not a way to convince me of of anything.
 
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You are not honest.
Rev 20:7-9 KJV And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

I can't imagine that you overlooked this,

Just piling verses which are irrelevant at a closer look may be excusable, but citing a verse out of context in the hope I will not know the context of the passage says the contrary than you want to demonstrate by it - this is not a way to convince me of of anything.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​


Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 
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