How will you react if Trump wins electorally but is declared unfit to be president?

[FaithT]

"if Trump wins electorally but is declared unfit to be president?"​

If this were to happen, it would be the end of the United States as it would set off an armed civil war.

Riots? yes. Civil war? No.

 

[FaithT]

That's not Harris's position on abortion and Trump did not claim he wished to marry Palmer.

You don’t need to marry to be a deviant.

 

[Aldebaran]

I’ll vote for whom I think will be the best choice for our country. Trump had his opportunity, he failed and then lost. Now I’m willing to give Kamala a chance.
And It is a bit funny how for months Kamala didnt fight back. She just took all the vitriol Trump spewed out and nobody else said a word. At first I admired her for taking the high road but then even I got sick of it and wanted her to toughen up. Trump is like the bully on the playground where the teacher just looks the other way until someone gives him a taste of his own medicine and then they BOTH get in trouble.

She didn't fight back for months? She only became the nominee on August 5th, and then not only didn't "fight back", she didn't do ANYthing but read prepared scripts at campaign rallies. It's only very recently she even started responding to questions (notice how I didn't say she answered any). Since then, she's been losing support because she's showing how she has no real solutions to anything other than to hate Trump.

Seriously, while Trump is visiting with and talking to us common folks, Harris is busy with her rich celebrity friends. Are rich celebrities the kind of people you can identify with the most?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

I early voted today so I am done thinking about it, deciding and trying to persuade others. A lot of my words have been external processing..
Now I am done and will try to let it go. Imagine life without all this political B.S.

 

[FaithT]

She didn't fight back for months? She only became the nominee on August 5th, and then not only didn't "fight back", she didn't do ANYthing but read prepared scripts at campaign rallies. It's only very recently she even started responding to questions (notice how I didn't say she answered any). Since then, she's been losing support because she's showing how she has no real solutions to anything other than to hate Trump.

Seriously, while Trump is visiting with and talking to us common folks, Harris is busy with her rich celebrity friends. Are rich celebrities the kind of people you can identify with the most?

Give me a break!

 

[Aldebaran]

Give me a break!

Since you didn't have anything to challenge what I said, I'll grant you a break.

 

[stevevw]

I could be wrong, but I have a feeling in the next few weeks and months, we're going to find out just how power-hungry and un-principled the Left really is.

Whenever they are gaining power they are "saving democracy"
Whenever they are losing power or being challenged on power then "democracy is under attack"

That's basically what their entire moral framework boils down to.

When they saw BLM marching through the streets and threatening people to 'raise their fists in solidarity or else'... or taking over police stations and burning down city blocks... when people lived in terror... that was ultimately okay because it was 'for the cause of democracy'

On the other hand, when some windows got broken on J6, it was democracy on the brink.

So, as to the OP. It seems to me that anything they try to do (whether it is "lawfare" or organized/encouraged political violence), it will be viewed as a necessity for essentially stopping the return of Hitler, which is how they talk about Trump every day.

Yes and Harris was at the forefront of persuing the J6 participants relentlessly while seeking pardons for the BLM rioters. The same mentality that allows Queers for Palestine to side with Hamas even though Islamist will throw them off buildings and jail them for being LGBTIQ.

Rather than side with the very free society that allowed them to protest and make these rediculous claims in the first place. Its the oppressed victim mentality that claims all the west and whites are oppressive and all victims can be lumped in the same pot. No critical thought or logic.

 

[RDKirk]

Yes and Harris was at the forefront of persuing the J6 participants relentlessly while seeking pardons for the BLM rioters. The same mentality that allows Queers for Palestine to side with Hamas even though Islamist will throw them off buildings and jail them for being LGBTIQ.

Rather than side with the very free society that allowed them to protest and make these rediculous claims in the first place. Its the oppressed victim mentality that claims all the west and whites are oppressive and all victims can be lumped in the same pot. No critical thought or logic.

This is an aspect of Critical Theory, in which all conflict is a matter of class warfare. In the case of Queers for Palestine, the particular Critical Theory ideology they're following has divided the world into class warfare between the Colonizers and the Colonized. The Israelis have been branded as the "Colonizer" in this conflict and therefore "right-thinking" people oppose them, regardless of any other factors.

 

[stevevw]

This is an aspect of Critical Theory, in which all conflict is a matter of class warfare. In the case of Queers for Palestine, the particular Critical Theory ideology they're following has divided the world into class warfare between the Colonizers and the Colonized. The Israelis have been branded as the "Colonizer" in this conflict and therefore "right-thinking" people oppose them, regardless of any other factors.

Yes if you dig a little behind most of these protestors you begin to see the bigger picture. No matter if its about Isreal Palestine conflict, racial issues, gender identity, you will find a Marxist basis. But not in the traditional sense of class but of culture across identity lines such as race, sex and gender.

Instead of the private owners controlling the working class its the white colonisers and western imperialists who are forcing their white supremecy and gender norms on the minority class of blacks, gays and queers.

Same ideology though. The view that all differences and outcomes are the result of power differences. So when a white succeeds its priviledge and when a black fails its white oppression. All else, the individual aspects, merit, talent, upbringing and conditioning are irrelevant. Its a very narrow and negative view of hujman relations and only leads to antagonism and division between people as we are seeing in society.

The extreme end results are stuff like antisemetism coming back into mainstream society and the winding back of long held rights like free speech, womens and religious rights and freedoms. It actually undermines the very foundation that free nations were built on.

 

[RDKirk]

Yes if you dig a little behind most of these protestors you begin to see the bigger picture. No matter if its the Isreal Palestine conflict, racial issues, gender identity, you wioll find a Marxist basis. But not in the traditional sense of class but culture across identity lines such as race, sex and gender.

Instead of the private owners controlling the working class its the white colonisers and western imperialists who9 are forcing their white supremecy and gender norms the minority class of blacks, gays and queers.

Same ideology though. The view that all differences and outcomes are the result of power differences. So when a white succeeds its priviledge and when a black fails its oppression. All else, the individual aspects, merit, talent, upbringing and conditioning are irrelevant. Its a very narrow and negative view of hujman relations and only leads to antagonism and division between people as we are seeing in society.

The extreme results are stuff like antisemetism coming back into mainstream society and the winding back of long held rights like womens and religious rights and freedoms. It actually undermines the very foundation free nations were built on.

Critical Theory is Marxism that has been adapted to fit situations other than economic classes. Critical Race Theory, Radical Feminism, Critical Gender Theory...they are Marxism applied to other situations than economics. And this isn't a secret...the Critical Theory philosophers explicitly point to their Marxist basis.

 

[loveofourlord]

Kamala Harris calling Trump a Fascist dictator who will overthrow our government and usher in authoritarianism is essentially a call for his assassination. Democrats have been urging people to kill Trump for a while now with dog-whistles, innuendo, or outright encouragement.

Anything is possible if Trump wins the election, and I expect widespread political violence

Republicans view Democrats as misguided, foolish, comical, and irresponsible.

Democrats view Republicans (and basically half the country) as criminals, enemy-combatants, enemies of the state, and Christo-Fascists

The political left doesn't simply want Trump dead, they want you dead

you do know that trump has called her a facist, comunist who plans will destroy the US right? Stop ignoring trumps just as bad if not worse rhetoric. The hypocrisy on the right is hilarious, ignore trump doing something then whine when the left supposedly does as bad.

 

[RileyG]

Despite who wins, I think there will be riots, regardless.

 

[Merrill]

you do know that trump has called her a facist, comunist who plans will destroy the US right? Stop ignoring trumps just as bad if not worse rhetoric. The hypocrisy on the right is hilarious, ignore trump doing something then whine when the left supposedly does as bad.

I have seen the liberal media make this claim about Trump calling her a fascist, but I can't find any evidence of it.

when and where did he do this? Is there a video, transcript, or link?

he has called her other things, including a socialist, stupid, etc.

and I don't support that rhetoric from candidates.

but this is a matter of degree. The Dems have been saying Trump is a literal Fascist dictator who will overthrow our government, and they have been making this claim for years. It is complete nonsense (when he was president, he didn't send people to concentration camps, suspend the US constitution, etc.)

 

[loveofourlord]

I have seen the liberal media make this claim about Trump calling her a fascist, but I can't find any evidence of it.

when and where did he do this? Is there a video, transcript, or link?

he has called her other things, including a socialist, stupid, etc.

and I don't support that rhetoric from candidates.

but this is a matter of degree. The Dems have been saying Trump is a literal Fascist dictator who will overthrow our government, and they have been making this claim for years. It is complete nonsense (when he was president, he didn't send people to concentration camps, suspend the US constitution, etc.)

it was on his truther or thruthist? or what ever you call it, posted imediatly after the second attempt on his life, imediatly after that he attacked her for her rhetoric while having the very same stuff, it's since been taken down, least last time I checked.

 

[RDKirk]

MSN

Just ahead of the 2024 election, the current administration appears to be setting up the narrative framework that Trump is an illegitimate candidate (because he's unstable, or a fascist, or otherwise a "threat to democracy"...)

Hypothetically speaking, if Trump ends up having a clear electoral victory that is not in question....

How will you react if the current administration still attempts to block his swearing in as President by invoking some sort of state of emergency in order to deny Trump the presidency. The stated "emergency" might be that Trump is supposedly too unstable to become President, or because he stands accused of "insurrection" from J6, or any number of narratives that could be presented as the reason the administration supposedly has no choice but to block the election of Trump "to save democracy".


Will you consider this a coup attempt by the existing administration to overturn the election results?

Or you will view such an electoral denial as acceptable in order to protect democracy?

.....

As a follow-up question, (and this question is particularly for those who believe January 6th was an "Insurrection" ) if Trump wins and there is any kind of mass violence or trespassing on government property by anti-Trump protestors during the electoral confirmation process, will you likewise perceive this as an insurrection attempt to overturn the electoral process?

There is no legal mechanism by which Trump could be "declared unfit" prior to taking office.

And certainly no political reason, even if he were a self-declared Fascist. There's no legal reason a Fascist can't be elected president. Or a Communist.

 

[RDKirk]

but this is a matter of degree. The Dems have been saying Trump is a literal Fascist dictator who will overthrow our government, and they have been making this claim for years. It is complete nonsense (when he was president, he didn't send people to concentration camps, suspend the US constitution, etc.)

You said "didn't" when the correct word was "couldn't."

But he's figured it out since then.

 

[lifepsyop]

There is no legal mechanism by which Trump could be "declared unfit" prior to taking office.

And certainly no political reason, even if he were a self-declared Fascist. There's no legal reason a Fascist can't be elected president. Or a Communist.

do you remember Covid?

you're putting too much faith in the idea of legality, as if people are bound by something concrete and unchanging framework of rules.

the 'state of exception' nullifies all rules.

Yes in 'normal' circumstances, there would be no mechanism to deny a presidential election, however this is an emergency. The normal rules cannot apply in such a dire situation. Remember, Trump supposedly led an "insurrection" on Jan.6th. Democracy is at stake, and the administration cannot in good faith allow a "fascist traitor" to take power.


remember the Russian collusion hoax?
sure, in normal circumstances it's illegal and completely unethical to spy on the incoming administration, but wait, we heard a rumor about muh russia, therefore there's no rules anymore and we can surveil the president and anyone else with impunity, etc. ya know, it's an emergency and democracy is at stake and stuff.


so really all it will take is another imagineered 'state of exception' after the election to do whatever regime power wants to do.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Harris and the Left will attempt to avoid having to deal with Trump before he has a chance to win. Their new tactic is returning to the dangerous rhetoric that led to the Trump assassination attempt.

Harris is now painting Trump as Hitler and a threat to democracy. That he will lock up democratic supporters in some fascist regime. The Leftist minders and media will push this narrative in the hope that another unstable Leftist takes him out.

Problem solved. Thats all they have left. Harris has nothing and she is exposed as a phoney. So now all she has left is attacking Trump even if that means getting him literally taken out. Thats how desperate the Left are getting.

The ironic thing is the Left are complaining about Trump using the Office to take out the Dems and destroy democracy in some future hypothetical (which he never did when president last time). While right here and now we have the Left pushing a narrative to take out Trump like some totalitarian regime.

Its like the pot calling the kettle black. The Left are accusing Trump of doing exactly what they are doing.

Thats how it usually works. The one who is really destroying democracy accuses the other of destroying democracy to avert attention away from the Left actually destroying democracy.

I'm actually worried they are ramping things to the point of foreign wars (invasion) over the rhetoric...

What did we do to stop Hitler? That was the whole point of NATO.

I don't know what they are doing with all this, but it's more than dangerous at this point, especially using the trappings of the office of the Vice President of the United States to say it.

 

[Hazelelponi]

And yet none of it results in assassination attempts against his political opponent. His rhetoric evidently isn't as dangerous as Kamala's.

Yep. Saying Cackling Kamala (teasing over her uncomfortable laughter) or the size of a mans hands are childish and kinda funny in an immature kind of way.

Totally different to Hitler, Mussolini and MAGA being modern neo Nazis (despite being of all races) Fascist, Manchurian candidate etc etc.

Trump didn't ever ramp up the rhetoric until they simply wouldn't stop. Now it's clear they are the danger to our Republic.

 

[lifepsyop]

I'm actually worried they are ramping things to the point of foreign wars (invasion) over the rhetoric...

What did we do to stop Hitler? That was the whole point of NATO.

I don't know what they are doing with all this, but it's more than dangerous at this point, especially using the trappings of the office of the Vice President of the United States to say it.

didn't MSNBC splice old nazi rally footage with Trump at Madison Square Garden rally, just the other day?... imagine how many crazy indoctrinated people (including many government employees) who are watching that stuff and thinking they have to save democracy from Hitler 2.0.