How We See America in Prophecy

[Joyous Song]

"In that day the remnant of Israel (E'phraim) and the survivors of Jacob (Judah) will no more lean upon him that smote them, but will lean on YHVH the Holy One of Israel in truth."

There are other passages about treaties, particularly those with Judah’s relationship with Egypt (above). Neither Judah nor E’phraim should “lean on” treaties with G-dless nations to secure peace because this means we are not relying on Him! This doesn’t mean we can’t work towards a cooperating relationship between ourselves and other nations, but we cross a line when putting something other than our Father as the means of peace. Besides this, what other concessions were being put on the bargaining table that don’t belong?

There is Jerusalem, and as Zechariah states, one day the “stone”, Jerusalem the Holy City, would be “lifted” and when it is, all that lifted it will be grievously hurt. This issue of Jerusalem was in the “last status talks” and indeed it was when the two sides reached this point that all hell broke loose for both brothers and their cousins. Yet shouldn’t this be easy to resolve, that Jerusalem is Israel’s?

If so why did He allow the building of the Dome of the Rock on our Holy Mountain? We suspect it is because this makes it harder for anyone to rebuild the Temple, thus placing a stumbling block before our eyes to see if either Judah or E’phraim could pass this rock without lifting it. Yet, lift it we did! Therefore Judah stumbled on the Rock of Salvation and then their brother lifted the rock of the Dome! And so it is written:

“And He will be become a sanctuary, and a stone of offense, and a rock of stumbling for BOTH houses of Israel, a trap and a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And many shall stumble thereon; they shall and be broken; they shall be snared and taken.” Is.8.14-15

Most Christians will say this happened in 70CE, and they would be partly correct. Yes, Yeshua was Judah’s stumbling rock, but this prophecy says for BOTH houses, not just one. One house was still missing when Rome struck Judah. Some may argue that E’phraim did return from Babylon with Judah, however we firmly disagree because of the following facts:

According to Isaiah 7.8, most of E’phraim “ceased to be a nation” and was broken up “as a people” 2700 years ago. This occurred when Assyria exiled them and they did not return from when the Tanakh was formally written down in Babylon, 2Kgs.17.23. A few did flee into Judah to avoid capture and this can be verified from stories in the Brith HaDoshah (New Testament).

 

[Joyous Song]

How do we know they didn’t return with Judah after the Babylonian exile? Remember that passage that stated, “the L-rd had not said that he would blot out the name of Israel (northern kingdom at this time) from under heaven,” 2Kgs.24 and the context there was the tribe of E’phraim, not Judah (Judah took that title later). Well where is ancient Israel? Those few numbers that returned do not embody anything close to the number of the missing tribe.

Besides we are told that when the exiles of Judah returned, they built their succoth (more than one succah/booth) of sticks (Nehemiah 8.15). This is significant because we believe that HaShem called Nehemiah to state the materials to be used to build their succoth to flag E’phraim had not returned. How can we assert this? We do because according to Hosea, E’phraim would dwell in tents, not succoth made of sticks (Hos.12.8-9) after their “Egyptian” exile:

“E’phraim has said, ‘Ah, but I am rich, I have gained wealth for myself; with all my wealth they will not find any sin in me’, I indeed, YHVH, El-heinu, from the land of Egypt, again, I will make you live in tents (168) as in the days of the appointed feast.” Hos.12.8-9

Why might Ephraim dwell in tents like those during the feast of Succos? In the Tanakh, Judah was told while dwelling in Babylon that the land of Israel would now gain its Sabbaths for all the years they failed to keep Shabbos. Succos is a holiday when we dwell in temporary shelters whose roofs as not secure. This is to promote complete trust in HaShem. In Hosea Ephraim is dwelling in tents just as Judah lost their Shabbos. This would suggest Ephraim forgot to trust in G-d for everything but trusted in their wealth and salvation through faith alone (‘with all my wealth they will not find any sin in me’)

In 1863, President Abraham Lincoln established a national day of Thanksgiving because he felt it was very important for our nation to thank our Father for all He has done to provide our success and wealth. Yet not all wanted at first to keep this day because some thought it was politics. Still worse, not long after it was celebrated this became a day of parades, football and turkey while giving thanks to the One True G-d gradually became lost, even to the point of a short prayer said by our Uncle Sidney before we all “dig in”.

We suspect this feast day had trouble taking root because our well intentioned President left out one small detail, that we were also to dwell in booths (tents). Why are these temporary dwellings so important? From our own experience, nothing else adequately shows that He is behind all we have, unless we remove these things for a while and live like our forefathers did in the desert (or like the homeless in our own nation), we cannot really begin to understand these people.

 

[Joyous Song]

So why might Ephraim be more willing to dwell in “tents” as in the days of the appointed feast when even Lincoln didn’t go that far? Jeremiah may have an answer:

“I thought how I would set you among my sons and give you a pleasant land, a heritage most beauteous of all nations.” Jer.3.19

“A pleasant land, a heritage most beauteous of all nations” fits north America with flowing plains, high blue mountains, beautiful national parks and three water falls flowing in union and beaches on both coasts, and the list can go on. Coast to coast and north to soul America is certainly the most beautiful because of sheer variety of wonders. Indeed she has two of the seven Great Wonders of the World, the Aurora Borealis (that other nations share) and the Grand Canyon.

“And I thought they would call Me Father and would turn from following Me,” In the Declaration of Independence our forefather called HaShem Father! Yet few Christian in America see HaShem the Father, only the Son, and many see a much watered down version of the Son at that.



“Surely, as a faithless wife leaves her husband, so have you been faithless Israel, says HaShem.”



America is the nation closest to northern Israel in that she possesses most of the twelve/thirteen tribes of Israel within her borders. When we became a nation we were mostly a Judao-Christain nation. Today that number has dropped and continues to drop. Thus the above passage fits.




”A voice on the bare hieghts is heard, weeping and pleading of Isreal’s sons, because they have perverted their way, they have forgotten the L-rd our G-d.” 21



Evil comes down and Ephraim is crying, weeping, בכ׳ literlly to burst through kind of continued weeping. The Heart wrenching stuff. Have we forgotten our L-rd or is this something in our future?

 

[Joyous Song]

Although the text goes on with Israel repenting, they are extremely remorse. Whatever happens this is likely enough, we believe, to esablish why we might again dwell in tents. Something happens, clearly. This leds back to Zechariah:

“And they will become like mighty men E’phraim and the heart of them they will be glad as with wine, and their children will see and they will rejoice in their hearts in YHVH. I will signal for them and I will gather them surely I will redeem them and they will be numerous as they were numerous before. Though I scattered them among yet in distant lands they will remember Me and they will survive and they will return with children and I will bring them back from the land of Egypt and the land of Assyria I will gather them to the land of Gilead and Lebanon and there will not be enough room for them.” Zech.10.7-10

E’phraim received the blessing for a great multitude (while Judah got the scepter) and the minuscule numbers Judah absorbed do not qualify. Besides, HaShem shall “signal” for them and gather them in a way separate from Judah; and their numbers will be as great when they return as they were in the past. Yet, we also read Judah will return with their brother E’phraim: “In those days the house of Judah shall join the house of Israel, and together they shall come from the land of the north to the land that I gave your (essence of) fathers for a heritage.” Jer.3.18. This seems to be a contradiction, but we believe it really isn’t. We suspect when HaShem reaches out His hand the second time (Is.11.11), He gathers both brothers, because not all of Judah are home (some may even face exile from Jerusalem in the future, Zech.14.2).

Also the reformations that made the libertarians possible and fostered the growth of the “no-prophets” also gave birth to a nation founded on liberty. In fact this nation even has Asherah in NY harbor and have built Omri’s “white house”, not once but twice just to show how freethinking they can be. And they even circumcise 85% of their male population and (up until recently) posted the 10 Mitzvoth (Commandments) on their walls (the Noachite Covenant only has seven). In fact this nation has for the last 200 years been shelter for those seeking after truth and liberty and it was founded on YHVH. And last but not least, it is a nation of immigrants that is our population came from all over the earth from every crevice E’phraim might have been scattered into.

When these propheies were prophesied, the Northern Kingdom no longer existed, it had been absorbed into the nations around them as we have already explained. And when they were to be gathered they would be made mighty and they will possess the fortress again, Zech.10, Is.17.3. Yet, He will gather them with Judah, not from this nation but from Egypt and Assyria, our old enemies. This is why this prophecy of E’phraim in the end times is placed just before we read of the full horror of Judah’s fall at the hands of the Babylonian king.

It is also the reason we are told that in the former days Judah’s sin was greater, but in the final days E’phraim’s will mirror this faithlessness. For what was, we feel shall again be because our L-rd is just and will help us overcome our blindness. Therefore we also feel that just as Judah was once exiled into Babylon so shall E’phraim be exiled, and just as Judah face occupation by Assyria so too will E’phraim. Yet, as E’phraim’s first exile was unjust and Judah’s justified, this role we suspect will be reversed as Judah’s second exile by Rome was unjust and E’phraim’s second exile be justified.

 

[Joyous Song]

This is because we forgot Him in our strength and power (Hos.12.), which reminds us of a parable:

A great earthquake shook the entire earth when we saw two great towers, one in North and one in the South. Each possessed an iron core of determination and power and each was surrounded by a military of steel and strength. Then came a messenger of the L-rd who drew with enormous skill, a princess of great beauty out of the tower of the North. “Do you know who she is?” He asked. “Is she the nation in which we live (Oho’lah?)?” we wondered. “Yes, and what of the other?” He again asked. “Is this the sister of the princess of the North (Ohol’ibah?)?”, we answered. “Yes”, He replied, and then said, “Now watch”. So we watched in horror as vengeance came from the sky, first upon the younger sister in the North, striking her at her head (Is.9.14). and sending forth smoke as if from a great furnace which bellowed in the air. After this came another blow 18 minutes later upon her sister in the South that struck her at the heart (Zech.13.1) and sent a fireball out her eastern side (Jer.31.39-40 cf Zech.14.12-14). In time, the face of him who was behind these tragedies began to smolder toward the center of her heart and she was also the first to fall at his hand. And after this fall, her sister fell and the heat of these two fires consumed those closest to them.

Each saw themselves as great and powerful because their center was an iron spirit and they were surrounded by a military of steel and power (America and the other nations of Ephraim combined and Judah is the other sister in the south). Yet, neither structure held up against the fires of His Wrath made manifest through His enemy’s hand. And through these things He shall break the pride of their power because they have crippled His strength by their great magnitude of sins.

This isn’t to imply that all those who died were sinners and deserved what they got. Remember that innocent people often die in YHVH’s judgments, not because He loves them less (if they are His children, they’ll go unto Him) but because we rarely repent over the death of sinners but will do so more readily over the death of the righteous. Thus only when we see our sins upon innocent lives that we have any hope of returning, but we must first see our own sins. This is why Christianity is called to remember and observe His cross, not because He died for everyone else’s sins but because He died for ours! Thus we read of true mourning:

“This is the Word of YHVH of hosts: Administer true justice and mercy and compassion upon the spirit of them. Do not oppress the widow, or fatherless, the alien, or the poor; and let none of you devise evil against his brother in your heart.” Zech.7.8-10

 

[Joyous Song]

Zechariah’s words tell us that true mourning is to change our heart to bring forth compassion and supplication. True mourning exposes us to our failings and where we need to grow in faith and fruit. It does not turn to hate nor calls for revenge; revenge is in the hands of our Father. Not that the rage we initially felt was bad, but we need to overcome it. This can be a form of the mourning process, as David cried out in rage against an evil in Ps.139.19-22.

During this healing process we should also reach toward self-introspection as David also showed, (v.23-24) to make sure our anger is righteous. We realize that many may get angry with these words, but we pray that you think about this: evil men who did this despicable thing have been around a long time and we, as a people, need to ask why are they getting to us? Why did so many have to die in those embassy bombings? Why did those sailors die on the USS Cole? Why did those workers and their innocent children have to die at the Okalahoma City Federal building? Or the innocent children at Columbine?

You see, in recent years this nation have had many other times to mourn reprehensible crimes on innocents, yet not once did we hear a call to repentance going out without having him/her being admonished by the crowd. This also happened to many of G-d’s prophets in history. For example, Jeremiah condemned the now exiled masses of Judah for fleeing to Egypt and for praying to the queen of heaven and not YHVH. Their response was to condemned him: “But we will do every thing that we have vowed, burn incense to the queen of heaven and pour out libations to her . . . for then we had plenty . . . but since we have left off burning incense to the queen of heaven and pouring out libations to her, we have lacked everything and have been consumed by the sword and famine” Jer.44.17-18. So yes, prophets preach hope but the watchmen blow the shofar.

Zechariah ends his discourse on the true fruit that should come forth from our mourning as a nation by saying that we, both E’phraim (with the Grafted-in) and Judah, will one day forget these horrors we now see because the life that is before us when Moshiach Ben Dovid (Yeshua in His return) comes will be as different as night and day, Zech.8.18. Yes, right now this maybe hard to see especially as the days grow darker, but this is just the labor pangs and as every mother knows that agony is surely forgotten when the baby lies resting in our arms, so will be with the time to come!

In all these things we have said, we ask you if you have any doubt or question, please take your concerns before the L-rd. for he alone can verify or deny these claims because all truth comes from Him. And may He be glorified now and forevermore, Amen.

 

[Scott Husted]

You know, when you really try, you can find whatever you want, in the Bible, even if its not there.

People tend to find what their looking for and often make it happen through this same means; it's an area prone to exploitation.

 

[tbstor]

A link to a PDF probably would've been better.

 

[Joyous Song]

Not sure how to do that. I'm do not have that great of computer savvy.

 

[Dave L]

Aren't you just cutting and pasting already fulfilled prophecy into a scheme to drag America into it? If it said America, that would be one thing. But you have nothing solid from scripture to base any of this on.

 

[Joyous Song]

Aren't you just cutting and pasting already fulfilled prophecy into a scheme to drag America into it? If it said America, that would be one thing. But you have nothing solid from scripture to base any of this on.

America was founded as a nation by Christians and Jews and Lev.26 only mentions G-d people, it has nothing about Israel or Judah. That said there is strong evidence that North America and Western Europe hold the Lost Tribes. America holds all tribes including Judah and Ishmael. Therefore Lev.26 fits and the fact that we are experiencing these curses only give greater credibility to this claim.

 

[tbstor]

That said there is strong evidence that North America and Western Europe hold the Lost Tribes.

There really isn't.

 

[Dave L]

America was founded as a nation by Christians and Jews and Lev.26 only mentions G-d people, it has nothing about Israel or Judah. That said there is strong evidence that North America and Western Europe hold the Lost Tribes. America holds all tribes including Judah and Ishmael. Therefore Lev.26 fits and the fact that we are experiencing these curses only give greater credibility to this claim.

But you have nothing but clipped segments of already fulfilled scripture to base your baseless claim on.

 

[Jermayn]

America was founded as a nation by Christians and Jews and Lev.26 only mentions G-d people, it has nothing about Israel or Judah. That said there is strong evidence that North America and Western Europe hold the Lost Tribes. America holds all tribes including Judah and Ishmael. Therefore Lev.26 fits and the fact that we are experiencing these curses only give greater credibility to this claim.

I basically stopped reading as soon as I got to the Russian collusion part. If you think it's a negative that Hilary Clinton, a candidate that supports not only abortion, but LATE TERM abortion, homosexuality, and pretty much every other degeneracy happening in our country right now, didn't get elected then I don't know what to say. Also, Israel's lost tribes, which are Dan and Ephraim, are lost because of idol worship. There's no mysterious tribes of people out there waiting to be found.

 

[Philip_B]

I really don't understand ameriocentric christianity.

 

[TexFire316]

Frankly and simply, we aren't in prophecy. Of course many have opted to use "fuzzy math" to make this land fit in prophecy, but these people tend to bend Scripture to fit an agenda. I guess some people find it too difficult to simple speak truth.

 

[ViaCrucis]

America was founded as a nation by Christians and Jews

And Unitarians, and Deists, and Agnostics, and almost certainly some atheists.

If you want to find a nation that was founded exclusively by Christians, there are some--but the United States isn't one of them.

Also, the US specifically was founded as a secular republic where the state and religion were to be completely separate, preserving religious liberty for all.

Honestly almost any of the Latin American countries would be better in this regard. For example the Mexican revolution was, in part, fueled by Catholic clergy who were unhappy with the secularization which occurred following the Napoleonic invasion of Spain and the Spanish Crown making things more difficult. The father of Mexican independence, Miguel Hidalgo, was a Catholic priest.

That would make Mexico a far better candidate if one is looking for countries founded by Christians and which had Christianity as a major component of their founding. The US was specifically founded to be secular, and the founders were from diverse backgrounds, some were Christians, some were non-Christians, and some were heretics. But they all came together to establish a secular republic in which the state would have no role or authority in matters of religion, which has always been one of the linchpins of American democracy: its secularism.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

I really don't understand ameriocentric christianity.

I don't know that anyone really does. It's a gross chimera, a syncretic religion marrying American civil religion with a veneer of Christianity.

It's this strange monstrosity that somehow made it acceptable for the US Vice President, Mike Pence, to make a biblical reference and replace Jesus with "Old Glory", a term for the American flag. That is a distinctly American form of heresy.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Not sure how to do that. I'm do not have that great of computer savvy.

It's pretty easy. I assume you are coping and pasting from a Word Document? If so, here are the steps.
1) Open the Word file.
2) Go to the top and drop down "file".
3) Then go to "save as" . From there another menu pops up.
4) This menu asks you where you want to save it. I would save it on your desk top.
5) Once you choose the location, the next item to choose is "save as type".
6) This menu will drop down to several options, choose "PFD"
7) And save!

This should show up on your desk top as a PDF. From there you can attach the file to your post under "Upload a file".

Be blessed!

 

[jgr]

America was founded as a nation by Christians and Jews and Lev.26 only mentions G-d people, it has nothing about Israel or Judah. That said there is strong evidence that North America and Western Europe hold the Lost Tribes. America holds all tribes including Judah and Ishmael. Therefore Lev.26 fits and the fact that we are experiencing these curses only give greater credibility to this claim.

After more than 3,500 years of diffusion and dispersion, Abraham's genome is ubiquitous in the entirety of humanity. This is established mathematically, and corroborated empirically.

It is acknowledged and applauded by the Jewish community itself.

It renders dispensationalism's racialized apartheid "two peoples of God" fallacy, null and void.

Example of the mathematical confirmation of ancestral genetic ubiquity

Abraham lineage
DNA Tests Could Fulfill God’s Promise to Abraham by Revealing Millions of Jews. But How Jewish is Jewish Enough?
Israel in all of Us? Research finds 'Jewish genes' in unusual places
Jewish-Roots Arabs in Israel
Tracing the lost tribes to Jewish communities in Africa
Nigeria's Igbo Jews: 'Lost tribe' of Israel? - CNN
http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/...-africa-has-jewish-roots-genetic-tests-reveal
https://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/...her-claims-proof-of-tribe-of-Ephraim-in-India
https://www.jta.org/2013/05/23/life...bush-bani-israel-tribe-claims-jewish-heritage