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How tolerant are you of other religions?

How tolerant are you?

  • I don't tolerant other religions well at all

  • I tolerate people of other beliefs, but know they are wrong

  • I see merits in other faiths besides my own

  • I tolerate people believing anything at all

  • I can easily tolerate faiths related or close to my own

  • I can easily tolerate faiths that are popular in my culture

  • I accept every faith as possibly true

  • I don't believe in any religion, and think they are all dumb

  • I believe in no religion, but see merits in some

  • I am undecided or different


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Teh Wiccan

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Wiccans? Who hates Wiccans?

From personal experience I know that being different (especially in religons) at school will get you pushed around a lot.

Many ignorant people have not so kind opinions towards Wiccans... However, there are always tolerant and kind people who do not discriminate due to religon.

Most people at this site have been rather nice :)
 
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Hey All :wave:
mala said:
thats because christians make up the largest group

i would say that jewish people feel more hatred percentage wise than christians do
If I remember correctly Judaism makes up less that 2 or 3% of world believers and yes they are in a very hostile situation right now in Israel but how does that change anything??
and Wiccans suffer the most hate % out of other groups.
Wiccans are a very small modern group, Im not saying that they dont recieve some form or that its not serious but their obviously not the most in the world. In the US there are more Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Angnostics and Atheists than there are Wiccans.

According to http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html there are about 1 million neo pagans worldwide, but I would say it is a larger number than that.
 
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Namaste all,

wait a sec... are we discussing which religious group is more persectued now??? that will be pretty tough to determine i suspect unless we have some third party reports.... like from Amnesty International, for instance.

Well... now... wouldn't you know it?

i've got plenty of reports of Christians burning down Buddhist temples, encouring their "flock" to attack Buddhist monks and nuns on sight to prevent their "evil spell" (actually a wonderful mantra of joy, blessing and hope) from killing them.

i've got plenty of reports of Muslims burning down Buddhist temples, forcing the populace to convert or have their families killed. whole muslim villages going on rampages to 'revenge' a perceived wrong.

oh wait... that's NOT what this thread was about... it was about discussing tolerance and asking how tolerant you, as an individual, were. not how you feel a group to be singled out for unjust treatment.
 
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oh wait... that's NOT what this thread was about... it was about discussing tolerance and asking how tolerant you, as an individual, were. not how you feel a group to be singled out for unjust treatment.

Then why did you contribute with this?: ;)

Well... now... wouldn't you know it?

i've got plenty of reports of Christians burning down Buddhist temples, encouring their "flock" to attack Buddhist monks and nuns on sight to prevent their "evil spell" (actually a wonderful mantra of joy, blessing and hope) from killing them.

i've got plenty of reports of Muslims burning down Buddhist temples, forcing the populace to convert or have their families killed. whole muslim villages going on rampages to 'revenge' a perceived wrong.

Sounds a lot like the major Buddhist persecution of Christians in Sri Lanka in the last few decades...
 
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TwinCrier said:
Tolerance is such a modern buzzword. How is it people who aren't Christians can believe whatever they like and they are called 'enlightened' and 'tolerant', but Christians who have our own beliefs and opinions are called hate-mongers, bigots, racists, homophobes, whatever you may say. I don't hate anyone. Freedom of expression goes both ways, but to demand that others endure YOUR beliefs is the epitome of intolerance. I once heard someone say that those who are intolerant don't deserve tolerance. What hypocrisy!

do you find something wrong with tolerance? i think that in the case of religion, it means that you accept the fact that other believe differently then you, and you don't try to prohibit that. it doesn't mean that christians should be forced to surrender their own faith and take on another, or that they should be permitted to push their values on others. that doesn't seem to hard, not biased against christians. yes, christians can definately be hate mongers if they choose to act that way, as can anyone of any faith who decides to place themselves as authority over people. it's not anti-christian...

i for one can accept people believing nearly anything. i don't have to agree but i don't deny them the right. i also voted that i could find merit in many religions without believing in them
 
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I would say that Jewish people and Wiccans suffer the most hate % out of other groups.
i would imagine that wiccans recieve a lot of intolerance, since their religion is widely misunderstood and misinterpreted. in america there is also a lot of anti-muslim sentiment. i think most of it comes from misunderstanding and from ignorant generalizations, which of course is a problem for everyone. all religions have faced some adversity, no doubt.
 
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I'm intolerant if you define it as

1. Believing that without Christ, we'd have no hope at all and would ALL deserve to live in our self-created hell.

2. Believing that religion is generally useless, and the greatest incubator of self-righteousness

3. Believing that humankind is utterly incapable of saving itself as any historian over 14 knows

4. We do not need religion any more than any other useless self-help philosophy which tends only to produce more self-righteousness.

5. Only Christ could save the likes of me, or you, by imputing righteousness in exchange for faith.

6. The Muslims will not produce a movie like "A Walk to Remember" in the next 500 years.

That is not intolerance at all. Just fact, backed up by 5000 years of recorded history from which we have learned virtually nothing.

Rad
 
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mala said:
i would say that jewish people feel more hatred percentage wise than christians do

And I am sure you know exactly what you are talking about. Why even make a statement like this? For one, it is of no merit to a religion if they are persecuted more. For two, you have no clue how much each religion gets persecuted percentage wise.
 
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feral said:
do you find something wrong with tolerance? i think that in the case of religion, it means that you accept the fact that other believe differently then you, and you don't try to prohibit that.

Tolerance means that you don't try to prohibit people from believing differently? Prohibit using force or what?
 
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feral said:
i for one can accept people believing nearly anything. i don't have to agree but i don't deny them the right. i also voted that i could find merit in many religions without believing in them

Can you accept someone who believes they aren't to accept others?
 
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Here is an idea:

Define tolerance.

Here is the definition that I got from Webster's

-The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.

There are definetly some beliefs and practices that I have no respect for. Does this mean that I will kill them? No. Will I torture them until they confess Jesus Christ? No. Would I tell them that I have no respect for their belief? Sure.

So, do I tolerate their beliefs? Somewhat.
 
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Aaron11 said:
Here is an idea:

Define tolerance.

Here is the definition that I got from Webster's

-The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.

There are definetly some beliefs and practices that I have no respect for. Does this mean that I will kill them? No. Will I torture them until they confess Jesus Christ? No. Would I tell them that I have no respect for their belief? Sure.

So, do I tolerate their beliefs? Somewhat.

then you shouldnt feel insulted if they were to reply back that they have no respect for your religion or any religion either

ahhhh what a wonderful world we live in :rolleyes:
 
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A Walk to Remember is a film with Mandy Moore, made a couple of years ago about a young Christian woman and an unbelieving jock who pair up after he sees what it really means to be a Christian. He is drawn to her depth of character and perhaps her disinterest in dating the school jock, whom she sees for what he is- a lost person who shows some signs of caring about truth and justice. (He gets after some people who are abusive toward her, and she opens the door a bit). Unfortunately, she has a terminal illness, although he marries her anyway. (Keep a bucket and a box of Kleenex handy if you see it or rent it)

Rad
 
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Yes Aaron. Good post.

"Tolerance" and politcal correctness are seen as some kind of moral answer, but of course the "enlightened" professors of same are themselves surprisingly intolerant. Only 60 years ago we discovered that the most "enlightened" and secular societies on Earth were the most intolerant and paranoid of all- slaughtering and starving millions of their own people. These were so often the same "enlightened" people who followed Darwin and today have not a tinge of conscience over killing a partially born baby.

It is astonishing what inhumane evils those claiming to be "tolerant" among us have historically chosen to ignore.

Rad
 
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mala said:
then you shouldnt feel insulted if they were to reply back that they have no respect for your religion or any religion either

ahhhh what a wonderful world we live in :rolleyes:

I hear such remarks every day..If I chose to be insulted every time I heard them that is all I would be doing with my time.
People are under the misconception that we are suppose to go through life never being offended. That we are guaranteed freedom from being insulted and that is just ridiculous. People can and do have things that they find offensive..we can't please the whole world,now can we?
People also mistake tolerance for acceptance. There are many things in this world I must tolerate but I DO NOT have to accept them in my life.
 
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radorth said:
A Walk to Remember is a film with Mandy Moore, made a couple of years ago about a young Christian woman and an unbelieving jock who pair up after he sees what it really means to be a Christian. He is drawn to her depth of character and perhaps her disinterest in dating the school jock, whom she sees for what he is- a lost person who shows some signs of caring about truth and justice. (He gets after some people who are abusive toward her, and she opens the door a bit). Unfortunately, she has a terminal illness, although he marries her anyway. (Keep a bucket and a box of Kleenex handy if you see it or rent it)

Rad
I don't usually go in for "chick flicks" but this one sounds interesting.
 
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