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That means its SPIRITUAL Surgery, performed by GOD< inside you.

What is it? Its this...>"BORN AGAIN" as a "NEW CREATION"......'IN CHRIST".

And How does God do this?
He causes your dead spirit to be REborn again alive = into HIS HOLY SPIRIT, by THE HOLY Spirit.
Not by water. !!

See that?

That is "without hands".....=its a " NEW birth"......and its defined as a Spiritual "circumcision" inside you.

A circumcision, is a CUTTING from.....

And what this literally means, regarding being born again, is that your REBORN Spirit, is separated from your body and your mind.
It exists as BORN AGAIN , but spiritually born again as "circumcised" apart from your body and your mind.

What are your body and mind? This is , spiritually speaking...>"Your FLESH", which Paul defines as the OLD MAN. Old Nature, carnal nature, adamic nature, fallen nature.

Now see that?
See how your NEW CREATION, the born again SPIRIT< is in your body, but is separated from your "flesh", which is your old man, by the "operation of God"....the "circumcision made without hands".

The NT says that your old man, is now "crucified with Christ", and you are to "reckon it DEAD", which means you are to see this part of yourself, as no longer the real you.
And why?
Its because the REAL YOU< is now Born AGAIN, apart from the OLD MAN. or the "flesh", as a "New Creation" IN Christ..."ONE with GOD, In Christ".

Now RIGHT here is where the revelation is gained or stays veiled.
Listen..
The born again part of you, is no longer a part of this physical world., as this is the natural realm, where your body exists, and your mind perceives.
So that is the "flesh."
The REAL YOU, is the born again you....And this is""IN CHRIST.""
And where is Christ?
He is in you, which is why you are IN Him, and He is in Heaven, which is why the real you is "seated in Heavenly places" , and told to be in the world but not OF IT.
You are the new Creation, in your body, which is in the world, but you the NEW CREATION IN CHRIST, is """ ONE WITH GOD"......if you are born again, and not just water baptized.
Jesus said.."you MUST be born again".

Reader, the world is temporal, its physical, and the born again are SPIRITUALLY BIRTHED into GOD's Holy Spirit.....by God's Holy Spirit.
The born again EXIST THERE, while they live in a body in the Physical realm.


Where is God?
Where is God located?
The Born again are right there, 'In Christ"......'ONE with God"...= Spiritually.

So, you see your body, and you think with your mind, yet your Born again Spirit, is Spiritually "circumcised without hands" from both, and exists 'in Christ" and "One with God", for eternity.
That's the REAL YOU, that GOD sees always, when He looks at you IF you are born again.
God sees you as "ONE with God".
In eternal union with God's Holy Spirit = born again.
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Now, im going to stop teaching right there, as this is a lot to SEE, when you have never been shown this before.

But here also is this... which is the main thing....as this is the Revelation.

= When you are walking IN THE Spirit, you have come to the place in your SPIRITUAL Growth, where you SEE what im showing you as who you are, vs, seeing yourself as your body and only regarding how your mind thinks.

See that?

Your mind is a part of the temporal, the physical realm, because God did not give your mind the new Birth.
So, your mind, has to be disciplined to THINK and SEE "spiritually" vs the Natural mind that only thinks and sees, naturally.

Saint, being born again, is APART from the natural, as this is a SPIRITUAL Birth.
You are become a NEW CREATION, SPIRITUALLY, and you exist in GOD who is "A" Spirit.

This is why PAUL tells you.......that you have been "Translated from darkness.....To/INTO> Light".

That is you. if you are born again, now eternally existing within the Kingdom OF God.
You are no longer separated from GOD, as are the spiritually dark, or not born again.....but you have become, as a new creation = a "child of THE LIGHT", and Jesus is the Light of the WORLD, and God exists AS Light and IN Light.

The Kingdom of Light, is GOD and CHRIST , and if you are born again.......then YOU as the New Creation, exits eternally IN GOD and CHRIST, as a "Child of THE LIGHT".


Now, do see where the REAL YOU exists?,..if you are born again as a NEW CREATION, as "ONE WITH GOD"? ????????

See where you are? ?????
Can you see it?
Can you see the real you? The new Creation?
That is how God sees you at all times, if you are born again.

When you see yourself the same, then this is REAL FAITH....and your mind is being renewed by this Revelation of who you are BECOME, as born again, "in Christ".
And when you see it, as TRUTH, and then you live there in this REAL FAITH , then you are """walking in the Spirit"" with a renewed mind.

And not until.

God help you to see it.
Would you provide scriptural references for your contentions here?
 
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When did the cross become the beauty of holiness for you? He is alive, He is risen!
He has ascended to the right hand of power. Why would you venerate the cross?
Could you post a few scriptures where this is done in the apostolic doctrines of the NT?


"For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect."--1 Cor. 1

"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father."--Eph. 2

"Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it."--Col. 2
 
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I have no questions for you. Thanks for the offer. As to my posts, and wanting to hear myself
talk, you must be thinking of someone else..

No, im thinking of you.
Thats why i wrote it.

I understand that you need to be heard.
And you want the members here to perceive you as a "minister".
Isnt that right "minister monardo"?

You wanted to make that announcement to the forum and to the world.
Ok, we heard you.
We see you.
 
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You will never come to the throne, if you think walking in the Spirit is centered on the Cross.

You'll go to heaven if your FAITH is centered on the Cross.
You just told us that your's is not.
But i already know that, which i pointed out to you a few times.

Thanks for the confirmation.
 
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No, im thinking of you.
Thats why i wrote it.

I understand that you need to be heard.
And you want the members here to perceive you as a "minister".
Isnt that right "minister monardo"?

You wanted to make that announcement to the forum and to the world.
Ok, we heard you.
We see you.
Do you think that you are provoking me?
You are provoking yourself, to the confusion of your own face.
Jeremiah 7:17
 
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Everything I post is primarily scriptures to support an idea. You should try it some
time and stop rambling on and on with opinions,

Unless you can post quotes......then you are again lying when you say that im posting "opinions".

I asked you before to stop lying on my Threads.
I mean it.
 
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You'll go to heaven if your FAITH is centered on the Cross.
You just told us that your's is not.
But i already know that, which i pointed out to you a few times.

Thanks for the confirmation.
Yes, we have been crucified with Christ. But have you been raised with Him?
Your contention is that walking in the Spirit is centered on the cross. Here is
another scripture for you.

Colossians 3:
1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above,
where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God
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You still have not addressed my original response to when you first originated this
thread. If your walk is centered on the cross, where do you see the throne in the walk
of faith?


2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.
Compare to this:
2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh.
Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know no longer.

Please, I beg you. Meditate on this verse and see what it is telling you. I really don't
need you to instruct me own the significance of the cross, and the putting away of
the sins of the flesh. Having done so, do you worship the crucified Christ, or the ascended
Lord of lords and King of kings? How do you post this thread, and ignore the throne?
Please, I beg you...ATQ!!


3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
 
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NO PROOF. Which church are you referring to anyway.

Read my Threads.
They are PROOF.

And which church is the real one?
Its the one that does not teach that you can lose your salvation.
Thats how you spot the real one, vs, the one that isn't real.
Thats how you spot a heretic.

Read my "How to spot the Devil", 1 & 2.
It'll enlighten you.
 
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Unless you can post quotes......then you are again lying when you say that im posting "opinions".

I asked you before to stop lying on my Threads.
I mean it.
If you do not support what you write with scripture, what do you call that?
And here you are calling me a liar again. Are you threatening me? OOOooooooo,
he means it.
 
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And which church is the real one?
Its the one that does not teach that you can lose your salvation.
Thats how you spot the real one, vs, the one that isn't real.
Thats how you spot a heretic.
That is all there is to it? What about 1 John 4?
 
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We do not lift up the cross friend.

To define me as your "friend", considering what you have said about me, and what i teach, shows that you have some issues you need to work out.

Also, we are to Lift up the Cross., we are to "preach the Cross". We are to understand that the Cross is God's ARK that has created His forgiveness for all our sin".

We are made righteous by the CROSS, because God died on it to give us His Righteousness.

So, you continue to mistreat the Cross and try to deny it.
As i told you that you do.

Go ahead and do it some more, as the members and Mods need to continue to see you as you are ....
 
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My Threads are proof.
And there are many of them.

Where are yours?
As I already said, I have seen your many threads. They basically say the same thing.
"Churches don't teach you the truth, but I will". "Read my threads".
And who is claiming to be an authority?
There are posts of mine throughout the section Equipping the saints >Spiritual Growth.
They are concise, and mostly scripture quotes. My biggest criticism used to be that I
didn't post enough of my own thoughts. I would post 4-5 different passages from different
parts of the Bible, with key words and phrases in bold, to let the word of God speak for itself.
Now, I just add a single statement to each scripture, as a bridge to the next.
Here is one that is on topic. 3 scriptures, and a little more teaching than usual, but
I will post the link for you.
Preach The Cross, Teach The Throne
 
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2 Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse
ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit,

You can't cleanse the filthiness of your Spirit by keeping commandments.
Who are you trying to kid?

You should stop teaching commandment keeping, as soon as you understand the Blood Atonement.

Work on that.
 
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Do you think that you are provoking me?

Ive no need to provoke you.
Its you that posts to me, obsessively.
All i do is respond to your Cross rejection, Theology.
You are on my Threads, remember= that teach Paul and Lift up the Cross.

This is why you seem so queer here....so odd........as that is how legalism, SOUNDS, on a Thread that gives CHRIST ALONE, all credit for Salvation.

See it yet?
Take a good look at yourself, as your Theology is you.
We see you.
 
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Yes, we have been crucified with Christ. But have you been raised with Him?
Your contention is that walking in the Spirit is centered on the cross.

Actually if you read the Thread, you'll discovered that Paul teaches, (as i do) (Pauline Theology)...that we are found "walking in the Spirit", once we have a "renewed" mind.
That is what i teach, in quite a few of my Thread's.
 
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No thanks. I will go by the New Testament.

If you own one, then study Paul.
If you do that for a while, and you find yourself understanding Romans 3:21-28, then come back to my Threads and they will suddenly seem.....Just like Paul teaches.

But you have to do the studying, and find the Truth......first.
 
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