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Was baptism offered but rejected?
As Augustine said, "It is not the absence of baptism that damns, but its despisal.
We have two passages of Scripture that speak about despising baptism.Yes, as I said earlier, he could decide on baptism and chose not to.
We have two passages of Scripture that speak about despising baptism.
Luke 7:29-30 Rejecting John's baptism was tantamount to rejecting Jesus' preaching. And rejection of Christ's teaching on baptism is tantamount to rejection Christi's preaching.
MATTHEW 21:31-33, 42-43 Jesus notes the Jewish leaders who fail to respond to John’s message cause the tax collectors and protitutes to “go before them into the kingdom. Those who follow John’s message and baptism, LEADS ONE INTO THE KINGDOM, WHILE FAILURE TO BELIEVE HIM AND BAPTISM HINDERS ONE FROM ENTERING THE TIMEDOM. The implication here is that believing John’s message leads one into the kingdom while failure to believe hinders him. However as Jesus reveals twevlve verses later, A rejection of Jesus teachings is more server than the rejection of john. Because the rejection of Jesus leads to the destruction of the city and causes the kingdom to bypass the Jewish leaders to another people.
Basically the bottom line is this: Do you believe baptism is optional for the Christian?
Non Responsive. I am out of this conversation.Basically the bottom line is this: Do you believe baptism is optional for the Christian?
Non Responsive. I am out of this conversation.
Perhaps you didn't like the answer: Post-121 Follow the pattern of those who by faith inherit the promise.We're going to go in circles if you're not going to answer my question
It is not as though the word of God failed...[Gal 4:6-7]How does God unite me to Jesus; how does what Jesus did become mine? How does the objective work of Christ
become subjective--how do I, personally, benefit?
If we truly love God, then we will obey "Every word" that proceeds out of his mouth (Matthew 4:4). Baptism is one of those words. In order to be baptized, certain events must take place: You must repent, give up a lifestyle where sin has dominion, (ruler ship) over you. Sin according to 1 John 3:4, Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression (breaking) of the law. You must be taught "The Word", before you can adhere to God's commandments (judgments\statues). These laws are found in the Holy Bible; beginning with Genesis and ending with Revelation. You must believe what the bible says and finally, you must confess that Jesus is Lord.
Once this has been accomplished, you are qualified to be baptized in the name of Jesus.
"And he said unto them, go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." (Mark 16:15-16). Listen people! Baptism is a commandment or requirement for salvation.
To reject baptism is death; so, why will you die? Every soul that is baptized honors God and every soul that rejects baptism dishonors God.
So now I affirm to you this united with the Lord, that you must no longer live in the past as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their thinking. Eph 4:17-19Paul said in (Rom. 3:23-25) (v.23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (v.24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: (v.25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, ... And by doing so you come up under his precious blood and then you are saved from your sins that are past, not present or future sins but for sins that are past.
For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls. 1 Peter 2:24-25We were all locked under death by Adam’s sin, even the second death. But when Jesus became (he was God in the beginning) man and died for the sins of the world, he gave us access back to the tree of life (himself) which Adam had caused us to lose. That’s what grace is, our free gift our access back to the tree of life but that’s another lesson for another time.
For the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. Gal 3:22You must believe what the bible says and finally, you must confess that Jesus is Lord.
But now that this faith has come, [now that you believe] you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.Once this has been accomplished, you are qualified to be baptized in the name of Jesus.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." (Mark 16:15-16).
But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh; Rom 3:14Listen people! Baptism is a commandment or requirement for salvation. To reject baptism is death; so, why will you die?
Perhaps you didn't like the answer: Post-121 Follow the pattern of those who by faith inherit the promise.
It is not as though the word of God failed...[Gal 4:6-7]
That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God;
but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. Romans 9:6-8
So if you belong to Christ, then you are the seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise. Gal 3:29
Know then that it is those of faith who are the seed of Abraham. Gal 3:7
In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists,I can't like or dislike what doesn't exist.
For both He Who sanctifies [without holiness no one will see the Lord Heb 12:14] and those who are sanctified are of one Father.You haven't answered the question I asked.
But we should always give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth. 2 Thess 2:13 John 14:6Again, you're not answering the question.
In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists,
should make the author of their salvation perfect through what he suffered [Heb 5:9]
For both He Who sanctifies [without holiness no one will see the Lord Heb 12:14] and those who are sanctified are of one Father.
For this reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren; Heb 2:10-11
But we should always give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth. 2 Thess 2:13 John 14:6
I've been 'articulating' all along that the blessing in Christ is received by grace through faith.Can you articulate an answer?
Which happens to be the view of every sober-minded Christian. 1 Peter 1:13Since you won't answer the question, I'll offer the view I hold.
Reconciled in Christ"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in heavenly places, even as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of His will, to the praise of His glorious grace, with which He has blessed us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace, which He lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight, making known to us the mystery of His will, according to His purpose, which He set forth in Christ, as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in Him, things in heaven and things on earth." - Ephesians 1:3-10
I've been 'articulating' all along that the blessing in Christ is received by grace through faith.
God's grace is revealed through Christ as it says in Scripture:Do you believe, as Scripture says, that baptism is a means of God's grace?
So that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too may walk in newness of life. Rom 6:4-11That we were united to Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection in baptism? (Romans 6:3-4)
Now that faith has come...for as many of you as were baptized into Christ [the Anointed One, the Messiah] have put on Christ. Gal 3:25-29That we were clothed with Christ in baptism? (Galatians 3:27)
You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. Abide in Me, and I in you. John 15:3-4That we were cleansed by the washing of water with the word? (Ephesians 5:26)
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, 1 Cor 12:13 Where Christ is all and in all. Col 3:10-11That we received the Holy Spirit in baptism? (Acts 2:38)
Which corresponds to the pledge of a good conscience toward God, since your salvation comes through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.That God saves us in baptism? (1 Peter 3:21)
His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world; 2 Peter 1:3-5That baptism is not a work of man done for God, but is a gracious work of God, taking ordinary water, uniting it with His word, delivering to us those promises which He promises in Scripture? Do you believe that?
God's grace is revealed through Christ as it says in Scripture:
Who was declared the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord, through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith; Rom 1:4-5
And with great power the apostles were giving testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and abundant grace was upon them all. Acts 4:33
So that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too may walk in newness of life. Rom 6:4-11
Now that faith has come...for as many of you as were baptized into Christ [the Anointed One, the Messiah] have put on Christ. Gal 3:25-29
You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. Abide in Me, and I in you. John 15:3-4
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, 1 Cor 12:13 Where Christ is all and in all. Col 3:10-11
Which corresponds to the pledge of a good conscience toward God, since your salvation comes through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world; 2 Peter 1:3-5
Do you believe that such a salvation is truly unconditional and which provides an absolute assurance of salvation or one which is conditional and which can be abrogated should one grow into a truly wicked and despicable atheist?So you affirm what Scripture says about baptism? That baptism is God's work and that He saves us through this means of grace?
-CryptoLutheran
God saves us through Christ as it says in Scripture, How will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? Romans 8:32-34So you affirm what Scripture says about baptism? That baptism is God's work and that He saves us through this means of grace?
God saves us through Christ as it says in Scripture, How will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? Romans 8:32-34
And salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved. Acts 4:11-12
As you come to him, the living Stone— chosen by God and precious to him—1 Peter 2:4-6
It is not enough for My Servant to restore my people; I will also make Him a light for the Gentiles; Isaiah 49:6
As foretold, the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the light of salvation to his own people and to the Gentiles. Acts 26:23
Do you believe that such a salvation is truly unconditional and which provides an absolute assurance of salvation
or one which is conditional and which can be abrogated should one grow into a truly wicked and despicable atheist?
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