How to stop abortions

[JustOneWay]

That's what you said. Somehow you dont see that my statement is sort of two part sentance.
The only way us Christians have to stop abortions...assuming that we've been saved and know that it is against God's will for anyone to have an abortion. God is pro life.

There is is again....'US CHRISTIANS' It certainly appears you are just talking about abortion as a Christian problem to solve, while excluding all the non-Christians.

So if you are talking about young christians having abortions, then I would assert that they are very young christians and not yet, a Christian. You can't call yourself a Christian today and tomorrow have an abortion. Something went wrong.

Christians have abortions all the time. Are you implying that if one has an abortion that person cannot be Christian?

But you said ...stop abortions. That rings to me like spiritual warfare. Can we help stop it? Sure we can, with prayer. Do you think Roe vs Wade was struck down by accident?! Lol!! More people are praying than ever before. That's why God allowed Roe vs Wade to be struck down.

Praying will stop abortions? OK....

Of course you have zero evidence for your satement that praying ended Roe V. Wade. It was not. It was the Supreme Court (humans) which ended Roe v. Wade - federally only

 

[Divide]

Saying things alone is not a crime unless it is threats or fighting words and you cannot make up crimes just because you do not like what people are saying to your kids. Now you can confront the person and in some cases ( depending on the facts you can keep your kids away from certain adults, but in the vast majority of cases words are not crimes and should not be treated as such.

Ok, fair enough. Soo...let's just say his punishment is, he can't watch kids no more? No one has any business talking to children about sexual immorality. That's the parents job, so that guy is out.

Good enough? I mean, your kids were there and heard him say that stuff too...?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Ok, fair enough. Soo...let's just say his punishment is, he can't watch kids no more? No one has any business talking to children about sexual immorality. That's the parents job, so that guy is out.

Good enough? I mean, your kids were there and heard him say that stuff too...?

yes, now I will say that there may be a chance they are doing more than talking nasty to your kids, but you had better have proof of that if you want to have the law do anything.

 

[Divide]

Christians have abortions all the time. Are you implying that if one has an abortion that person cannot be Christian?
Praying will stop abortions? OK....

Of course you have zero evidence for your satement that praying ended Roe V. Wade. It was not. It was the Supreme Court (humans) which ended Roe v. Wade - federally only

Ok so, you are a Pro-Choice person?

I'm implying that if a christian has an abortion and knows it is outside the wil of God, then they arent a real Christian at all. They are tied to the world still. Anyone can call themselves christian, but it that alone make them a Christian? They have some growing to do yet.

No I don't have Evidence that people praying helped Roe vs Wade to be overturned! But nevertheless, I think it's obvious, lol!

Praise the Lord!

 

[JustOneWay]

Ok so, you are a Pro-Choice person?

I'm implying that if a christian has an abortion and knows it is outside the wil of God, then they arent a real Christian at all. They are tied to the world still. Anyone can call themselves christian, but it that alone make them a Christian? They have some growing to do yet.

No I don't have Evidence that people praying helped Roe vs Wade to be overturned! But nevertheless, I think it's obvious, lol!

Praise the Lord!

It is not up to you to determine who is and who is not a Christian. Perhaps you should stop doing it.

 

[Divide]

yes, now I will say that there may be a chance they are doing more than talking nasty to your kids, but you had better have proof of that if you want to have the law do anything.

What do we need the law for? Ths is a neighbrohood thing.

You see, I think this is all about community. The government says depend on s to do it...and they always fail in the worst way. We dont need them. No one would be homelss on welfare or anything of the sort because we take care of our own. Not even a welfare system is needed. When we take personal responsiblity.

 

[dogs4thewin]

What do we need the law for? Ths is a neighbrohood thing.

You see, I think this is all about community. The government says depend on s to do it...and they always fail in the worst way. We dont need them. No one would be homelss on welfare or anything of the sort because we take care of our own. Not even a welfare system is needed. When we take personal responsiblity.

I agree but we do need the government to keep people from going crazy and taking matters into their own hands. You are right there are issues with the welfare system, but at the same time since people do not always "take care of their own" there has to be some level of government to ensure that a minimum and I believe it should be a very low minimum standard of living is maintained. Likewise, people should not always be allowed to take things into their own hands simply because they do not like certain people or certain actions from those people. Nor, does every crime deserve to be a death sentence such as things like trespass or theft.

 

[Divide]

It is not up to you to determine who is and who is not a Christian. Perhaps you should stop doing it.

I'm not judging anyone. I only speak what I know to be true. It is outside of God's will for them to have an abortion. God's will is what counts.

Now if a born again Christian believes and accepts God as their savior and thereby committ their lives to Him...if they have an abortion that they already know is wrong, then they have Disobeyed God. That can be none other than outright disobedience. IWhat happens then? Is there no consequences for Murder?

Part of becoming a Christian is repenting and turning away from sin. That means to stop the sinning. If one says no problem let's have an abortion anyway, he (she?) has just turned against God. That's in scripture.

Do you need the scriptures?

Now if they repent again, truely, and confess their sin, then God will forgive them for His blood covers a multitude of sins. But if they do not confess it and ask forgiveness...and happen to die, then they die in their sins and will (probably) be condemned for it. So loosely, I suppose you could say that at the moment that they turned against God and made the abortion decision on their own that they were no longer Christian because they are not living it.

 

[JustOneWay]

What do we need the law for? Ths is a neighbrohood thing.

You see, I think this is all about community. The government says depend on s to do it...and they always fail in the worst way. We dont need them. No one would be homelss on welfare or anything of the sort because we take care of our own. Not even a welfare system is needed. When we take personal responsiblity.

Not everybody has the mental capacity to be a fully responsible person, and not all homeless people have others to take care of them. There will always be homeless people.

I'm not judging anyone. I only speak what I know to be true. It is outside of God's will for them to have an abortion. God's will is what counts.

Now if a born again Christian believes and accepts God as their savior and thereby committ their lives to Him...if they have an abortion that they already know is wrong, then they have Disobeyed God. That can be none other than outright disobedience. IWhat happens then? Is there no consequences for Murder?

Part of becoming a Christian is repenting and turning away from sin. That means to stop the sinning. If one says no problem let's have an abortion anyway, he (she?) has just turned against God. That's in scripture.

Do you need the scriptures?

Now if they repent again, truely, and confess their sin, then God will forgive them for His blood covers a multitude of sins. But if they do not confess it and ask forgiveness...and happen to die, then they die in their sins and will (probably) be condemned for it. So loosely, I suppose you could say that at the moment that they turned against God and made the abortion decision on their own that they were no longer Christian because they are not living it.

I don't need proselytizing in the politics forum.

 

[Divide]

I agree but we do need the government to keep people from going crazy and taking matters into their own hands. You are right there are issues with the welfare system, but at the same time since people do not always "take care of their own" there has to be some level of government to ensure that a minimum and I believe it should be a very low minimum standard of living is maintained. Likewise, people should not always be allowed to take things into their own hands simply because they do not like certain people or certain actions from those people. Nor, does every crime deserve to be a death sentence such as things like trespass or theft.

Right. The state the world is in, neccessitates action and so therefore, I will step up and Police my own children, so everyone better be careful around them. This is my personal responsibility to my children.

People's love for others has grown cold. Oh, everybody knows how to hate real well, but most don't have a heart coupled with Responsibility or Love. So we may need some hel at first, but if we vote and need them, we will call them. If we don't need them, we wont.

 

[JustOneWay]

I'm not judging anyone. I only speak what I know to be true. It is outside of God's will for them to have an abortion. God's will is what counts.

Now if a born again Christian believes and accepts God as their savior and thereby committ their lives to Him...if they have an abortion that they already know is wrong, then they have Disobeyed God. That can be none other than outright disobedience. IWhat happens then? Is there no consequences for Murder?

Part of becoming a Christian is repenting and turning away from sin. That means to stop the sinning. If one says no problem let's have an abortion anyway, he (she?) has just turned against God. That's in scripture.

Do you need the scriptures?

Now if they repent again, truely, and confess their sin, then God will forgive them for His blood covers a multitude of sins. But if they do not confess it and ask forgiveness...and happen to die, then they die in their sins and will (probably) be condemned for it. So loosely, I suppose you could say that at the moment that they turned against God and made the abortion decision on their own that they were no longer Christian because they are not living it.

I don't need proselytizing in the politics forum.

 

[Divide]

Not everybody has the mental capacity to be a fully responsible person, and not all homeless people have others to take care of them. There will always be homeless people.

I don't need proselytizing in the politics forum.

Haha! Then don't ask questions that require a Biblical answer! Lol. This is a Christian Forum, what do you expect?!

 

[Divide]

I don't need proselytizing in the politics forum.

Then dont ask Biblical questions on a Christian Forum!

Geez, were you trying to reach Barney.com?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Right. The state the world is in, neccessitates action and so therefore, I will step up and Police my own children, so everyone better be careful around them. This is my personal responsibility to my children.

People's love for others has grown cold. Oh, everybody knows how to hate real well, but most don't have a heart coupled with Responsibility or Love. So we may need some hel at first, but if we vote and need them, we will call them. If we don't need them, we wont.

You had better be careful "policing your children" because you take it too far by for example killing someone after the fact you can be charged. Now, IF you catch someone IN THE ACT of sexually abusing your children that is considered defense of others, but if you kill someone after the fact nope that is illegal.

 

[JustOneWay]

Then dont ask Biblical questions on a Christian Forum!

Geez, were you trying to reach Barney.com?

You are the one tossing out the biblical stuff in the political forum. Maybe it is you who should stop?

 

[Divide]

You had better be careful "policing your children" because you take it too far by for example killing someone after the fact you can be charged. Now, IF you catch someone IN THE ACT of sexually abusing your children that is considered defense of others, but if you kill someone after the fact nope that is illegal.

That is a good point! It is a point that I am well aware of. I am not trigger happy, but they best be honorable to my kids.

 

[Divide]

You are the one tossing out the biblical stuff in the political forum. Maybe it is you who should stop?

You wwanted in-depth discussion about Christianity so asked for it. (What do you mean it's ok for nonbelievers to have abortions?)

And I didnt say that and since you asked, I Answered?

Are you Answered Enough yet? Lol

 

[Hammster]

You are comparing apples to oranges. Sad, but not unexpected.

I’m comparing people to people.

 

[Hammster]

You keep using that as an excuse to go out of your way to avoid addressing the point.

I'll make it clearer: what you are advocating is not equal rights.

The rights you want to grant embryos are rights that no born person has, and those rights would come at the expense of, and in direct conflict with, the existing rights of pregnant women.

-- A2SG, you're gonna have to do a better two-step to avoid addressing the point now.....

Again, it’s an idiotic point.

 

[Hammster]

You are the one tossing out the biblical stuff in the political forum. Maybe it is you who should stop?

Why would a Christian be opposed to that on a Christian Forum?