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Jesus is God.
God hanging on the Cross, is "God's Blood".
That's not "weird",...... that is the BLood Atonement that only God can provide to the world. John 3:16
Notice that a couple of criminals were hanging on separate crosses, near to Jesus.
There is a reason that their blood can't forgive your sin.
Figure this out, asap.
The Son of God was on the cross the two others were not the Son of God, was Jesus talking to himself?
Luke 23:34: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.
Luke 23:46: Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit.
You said that Jesus's Blood, that is God's blood, seems strange to you.
Well, it shouldn't, as Jesus is God manifested in the Flesh.
Jesus is God, on the Cross.
Thomas, the apostle, upon seeing Jesus for the first time after Jesus rose from the Dead, ..fell on his knees before Jesus, and said...>"my LORD and mY GOD".
Jesus did not correct Him, because there was no need for God to correct the Truth.
you took that right out of context and added he fell on his knees that is a total assumption.
only the Son has seen God.
Are you judging me and implying i do not believe just like others who do not believe?. I do believe in the Lord of Salvation.I quoted what Thomas said to God.
If you feel that Thomas was not kneeling because the verse does not say it, then you go right ahead and believe it.
I believe that when this Apostle, who had defiantly stated earlier that he would only believe Christ was alive..... if He put his flesh into the wounds of the Resurrected Christ...who has just appeared to all the Apostles, not using a door...
I will teach that no man is going to stand up, in that situation.
You'll be on your knees, just like all who do not believe and yet will be kneeling and confessing that Jesus is Lord, before God is finished with this evil world.
Believe it.
Thats the 1st person of the Trinity.
That's God the Father.
God the Son, was seen by everyone who ever saw Him down here, including harlots, pharisees, and Apostles.
When Jesus was asked by the religious haters who He was......He told them that "before Abraham was....I AM".
And that is God's title that He presented to Moses, at the burning bush.
So, What does that mean?
It means that when Thomas said. "My God" to Jesus, He was showing you the Truth.
Jesus is God.
1 Timothy 3:16
Paul changed the entire world with one message.
ONE MESSAGE.
Law keeping ? No
Commandment keeping? No
Presenting your body as a living sacrifice? No
Water baptism? No
Pre-destined elect? No
So what is the message? ?????
Its this..
The BLOOD of JESUS. "the preaching of the Cross".
Paul said he had that message, and took it everywhere he could go.
He called it "My Gospel".
He was stoned to death for that message.
He was jailed for years for that message.
He was beaten with whips a few different times for that message.
They cut off Paul's head because of this message of Eternal Truth...=The BLOOD OF JESUS makes you RIGHTEOUS forever.
John 14:6
Why? Because the devil hates that message, and the world that is run by the devil hates that message.
And many who talk about "christian stuff" hate it, and many who talk about "christian stuff", have never met that message with faith and become born again.
But they can fight on a "christian" forum against it, 24/7, and love to do it.
Its why they hang around fourms.
This message makes a dark light very agitated.
A dark light does not want to hear about the Cross of Christ or the BLOOD of Jesus.
They dont want to be told that the blood of Jesus that saves you, is the ONLY REASON you go to heaven.
What they want to hear is something from the Old Testament, or something Jesus said before He was Crucified, or something about law, and commandment keeping, or something said by any other apostle, other than Paul.
Im here some weeks now talking about Paul's Gospel and Paul's Doctrine, and low and behold, its as if i created it, and just put the book out.
Ive got way more than a dozen Threads up and running, and they talk about Paul's Gospel, and the Blood of Jesus and they are all a constant war zone of resistance.
Fascinating, to see the power of the message of the Cross be so impactful.
There is POWER in the BLOOD.
Believe it.
The first time i really saw this spiritual reality doing what it does to dark lights, was in 1991.
I was an industrial draftsman, also doing the seminary thing, and i would take my NT everywhere with me.
So, in MONSANTO where i was working, i would take it to the Cafeteria, and read it while i had lunch or dinner, depending on my shift.
The place was full of employees, and im there, day after day, eating, and studying the Word.
I kid you not reader.......when i grabbed the NT, the room shook.
People started to cough, scratch, jerk around, and behave oddly.
This was every day, and i witnessed it.
There is Power in the BLOOD and there is POWER IN THE HOLY BIBLE.
The word of God is ALIVE !
So all That's interesting, isn't it, when you consider that the message of the Cross, that is the Blood of Jesus taught as the Grace of God, came from Paul, as "the Gospel of the Grace of God".
Who would not want to hear all about what Paul said when you consider that He wrote most of the New Testament?
Who? A dark light.
low and behold, its as if i created it, and just put the book out.
Ive got way more than a dozen Threads up and running, and they talk about Paul's Gospel, and the Blood of Jesus and they are all a constant war zone of resistance.
The first time i really saw this spiritual reality doing what it does to dark lights, was in 1991.
I was an industrial draftsman, also doing the seminary thing, and i would take my NT everywhere with me.
So, in MONSANTO where i was working, i would take it to the Cafeteria, and read it while i had lunch or dinner, depending on my shift.
The place was full of employees, and im there, day after day, eating, and studying the Word.
I kid you not reader.......when i grabbed the NT, the room shook.
People started to cough, scratch, jerk around, and behave oddly.
This was every day, and i witnessed it.
As i said.
The way you discover a person who is resisting truth, and defined as dark lights, is noted by the fact that they can't talk about the Cross, the Blood of Jesus, or the Gospel of Grace.
All they can stand to discuss, is the Old Testament, or verses from any apostle other then Paul, that they then twist to try to prove self effort gets you into heaven.
You're mixing the gospels.Amen.
The Gospel truly is of grace, and all believers are washed in His blood in the eyes of God their Father.
That cross alone, where He gave His life for the sheep ( John 10:11 ), was His own personal sacrifice for them and them alone.
Amen yet again, and well said, sir.
From the Scriptures, we know that truly believing on Christ, has a cause...
God's gift of the new birth through the work of His Spirit and His living word ( Acts of the Apostles 16:14, Titus 3:5-7, James 1:18, John 1:11-13 ) .
Faith, the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen ( Hebrews 11:1 )...
Authored and finished by Jesus Christ Himself ( Hebrews 12:2 ) and a fruit of His Spirit within all of His people ( Galatians 5:22 ).
It truly is a miracle of His mercy and grace.
If self-effort of any kind were involved, then that would make it a Gospel of works, not of grace.
You said that Jesus's Blood, that is God's blood, seems strange to you.
Well, it shouldn't, as Jesus is God manifested in the Flesh.
Jesus is God, on the Cross.
Thomas, the apostle, upon seeing Jesus for the first time after Jesus rose from the Dead, ..fell on his knees before Jesus, and said...>"my LORD and mY GOD".
Jesus did not correct Him, because there was no need for God to correct the Truth.
Joined2Krist
Christians , real ones, are easy victims, until we wake up..... Its because most are trained badly early in our spiritual growth, regarding how to spot liars and deceivers.
I show you how.
See, we are taught that "good works = good people".
This reminds me of a photo of Hitler, in full uniform, in color.... holding two small children, and he's just smiling......and they are not.
We read that we are to love our neighbor as ourselves, and some take this to mean, we are to trust unconditionally like fools.
We read that Jesus said to turn the other cheek and that the spirit of meekness is to be coveted, and that gets twisted by spineless pulpits and social justice churches into "be a doormat", "never take a stand", and some commit the great sin of : BLIND TOLERANCE.
We are Children of the LIGHT<........ This is all the born again.
We are not to stay hidden, we are a part of the Light of the World, who is Jesus THE Christ.
Paul said to put on the whole ARMOR of God.
And you dont wear armor, hiding from spiritual confrontation and theological liars.
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Paul changed the entire world with one message.
ONE MESSAGE.
Law keeping ? No
Commandment keeping? No
Presenting your body as a living sacrifice? No
Water baptism? No
Pre-destined elect? No
So what is the message? ?????
Its this..
The BLOOD of JESUS. "the preaching of the Cross".
Paul said he had that message, and took it everywhere he could go.
He called it "My Gospel".
He was stoned to death for that message.
He was jailed for years for that message.
He was beaten with whips a few different times for that message.
They cut off Paul's head because of this message of Eternal Truth...=The BLOOD OF JESUS makes you RIGHTEOUS forever.
John 14:6
Why? Because the devil hates that message, and the world that is run by the devil hates that message.
And many who talk about "christian stuff" hate it, and many who talk about "christian stuff", have never met that message with faith and become born again.
But they can fight on a "christian" forum against it, 24/7, and love to do it.
Its why they hang around fourms.
This message makes a dark light very agitated.
A dark light does not want to hear about the Cross of Christ or the BLOOD of Jesus.
They dont want to be told that the blood of Jesus that saves you, is the ONLY REASON you go to heaven.
What they want to hear is something from the Old Testament, or something Jesus said before He was Crucified, or something about law, and commandment keeping, or something said by any other apostle, other than Paul.
Im here some weeks now talking about Paul's Gospel and Paul's Doctrine, and low and behold, its as if i created it, and just put the book out.
Ive got way more than a dozen Threads up and running, and they talk about Paul's Gospel, and the Blood of Jesus and they are all a constant war zone of resistance.
Fascinating, to see the power of the message of the Cross be so impactful.
There is POWER in the BLOOD.
Believe it.
The first time i really saw this spiritual reality doing what it does to dark lights, was in 1991.
I was an industrial draftsman, also doing the seminary thing, and i would take my NT everywhere with me.
So, in MONSANTO where i was working, i would take it to the Cafeteria, and read it while i had lunch or dinner, depending on my shift.
The place was full of employees, and im there, day after day, eating, and studying the Word.
I kid you not reader.......when i grabbed the NT, the room shook.
People started to cough, scratch, jerk around, and behave oddly.
This was every day, and i witnessed it.
There is Power in the BLOOD and there is POWER IN THE HOLY BIBLE.
The word of God is ALIVE !
So all That's interesting, isn't it, when you consider that the message of the Cross, that is the Blood of Jesus taught as the Grace of God, came from Paul, as "the Gospel of the Grace of God".
Who would not want to hear all about what Paul said when you consider that He wrote most of the New Testament?
Who? A dark light.
Man you twist it to no end, God the Son is not in the scriptures as such at all.
what does it mean, it means Thomas was included in those who have not seen the Father yet believed.
When Jesus says if you have seen him you have seen the Father because all he did was the Fathers will. they had seen God's will but not the Father no man at anytime has seen God.
Monsanto... yeah
Monsanto, awesome. I loved Adventures Thru Inner Space at Disneyland as a kid.
You should peep John 1:18 in Greek, considering you quoted it in reference to Jesus. "Only begotten son" does not actually say son. It says "only begotten God." The phrase "God the Son" may not be in Scripture, but Jesus is identified as both God and son in various places.Man you twist it to no end, God the Son is not in the scriptures as such at all.
what does it mean, it means Thomas was included in those who have not seen the Father yet believed.
When Jesus says if you have seen him you have seen the Father because all he did was the Fathers will. they had seen God's will but not the Father no man at anytime has seen God.
once a man came close seeing Him but only his backside but that was as close as it got.
1 Timothy 6:16
He alone is immortal and dwells in unapproachable light. No one has ever seen Him, nor can anyone see Him. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.
The only chosen, by God among the gods, to be God, by God, with God, from among the gods, etc...You should peep John 1:18 in Greek, considering you quoted it in reference to Jesus. "Only begotten son" does not actually say son. It says "only begotten God." The phrase "God the Son" may not be in Scripture, but Jesus is identified as both God and son in various places.
Your quotation of 1 Timothy 6:16 is out of context This is completely in error and contrary to the Statement of Faith of this site, which is the Nicene Creed, which asserts the doctrine of the Trinity, that the Son is consubstantial with the Father and “very God of very God,” the Word God incarnate. Also reread John 1.
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