How to spot the Devil

[Sidon]

we are either with Him or against Him. Mathew 12:30

You are found "against Him" when you teach self effort/commandment keeping.... in place of God's Grace, as the reason God will accept you.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You are found "against Him" when you teach self effort/commandment keeping.... in place of God's Grace, as the reason God will accept you.

Thankfully, Jesus is my judge (and yours) so that will be up to Him not you. You are misquoting me again, because God's grace is different than God's righteous judgment. They are two different things according to scripture.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Who is God's Israel?

You mean, who was God's Israel when He was speaking to them in an earthly body?

Not the Syrophoenician woman (though He helped her). Not you. Not me.

"Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ."--Ephesians 2

Time past. But now. You only get the above from Paul, AFTER the Lord Jesus finished his work--he died for our sins according to the Scriptures, he was buried, and on the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You mean, who was God's Israel when He was speaking to them in an earthly body?

Not the Syrophoenician woman (though He helped her). Not you. Not me.

"Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ."--Ephesians 2

Time past. But now. You only get the above from Paul, AFTER the Lord Jesus finished his work--he died for our sins according to the Scriptures, he was buried, and on the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures.

God has always had a people. His people is not a race or a nationality or a man or a women.

Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

If we are a follower of Christ we are part of God's Israel and heirs to the promise.

The problem with most they want the promises from our Savior, without following our Savior.

 

[Sidon]

That's not to say if we stumble we will not be forgiven. We get back up and repent and keep trying.

Go here.

To stop sinning.

 

[Sidon]

Thankfully, Jesus is my judge (and yours)

Actually i have no heavenly Judge, because im Born again, and exit as : '"ONE WITH GOD, IN CHRIST"
This means that God became my Father, because Jesus has become my Savior.

1.) God is my Father
2.) Jesus is my savior.

I have no judge, unless i break a law, and am arrested, and then i go to court down here.

Now, if you are not born again, then God is not your Father, He is your Eternal Judge.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Actually i have no heavenly Judge, because im Born again, and exit as : '"ONE WITH GOD, IN CHRIST"
This means that God became my Father, because Jesus has become my Savior.

1.) God is my Father
2.) Jesus is my savior.

I have no judge, unless i break a law, and am arrested, and then i go to court down here.

Now, if you are not born again, then God is not your Father, He is your Eternal Judge.

This is why we should get our teachings from scriptures, because if you teach something different than what scripture teaches, you might not be ready once our Savior comes!

1 Corinthians 15:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

Revelations 22:12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Are you saying Jesus died so we can continue to sin? I don't see that in my bible.

You didn't see the truth of Ephesians that I quoted either. You missed it, magnetically flipping back to your DO/DON'T DO error. "The man who does them shall live by them". Not of faith. (From: Galatians 3, since you tried to counter Paul with Paul)

Consider this:

"Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is just!"

Now, who is doing the slander here? And who is getting the condemnation for it?

(Hint: NOT ME!)

 

[Sidon]

This is why we should get our teachings from scriptures, because if you teach something different than what scripture teaches, you might not be ready once our Savior comes!

I have Christ in me., as do all the born again.
This solved the "getting ready".

 

[BNR32FAN]

Those are the greek manuscripts.
I dont teach that the greek manuscripts are "the bible".
I teach that the Bible is the english.


So, as i said.

The original apostles letters are the original manuscripts.
None remain.
What we have are the greek copies of the original that we think of as "greek texts".
These copies were collected and assembled as "new testament greek texts".
There are 30, obo.
2-3 are used, most are rejected.

I dont use any of that, because the world does not use the koine greek language.

God in His foreknowledge understood that ENGLISH would become the language that unites all races and all countries, so, that is why the English version, is the authority, and not the greek that isn't used.

So, as i was telling you when you first started harping on your one greek string, a month ago... there is a lot about manuscript evidence and so much more, that is related to why we dont use the Greek, and instead, have the ENGLISH BIBLE as the word of God.

So let’s put into perspective everything you’ve said. Ever since the apostles died, the church has been wrong for over 1500 years, the early church writers are wrong, and the Bible has been wrong for almost 1900 years. According to you everyone had the wrong gospel until the 16th century and no one had a “real Bible” until the 19th century. So then I guess Jesus’ plan to establish a church to spread the gospel to all nations failed as soon as the apostles died for over 1500 years? Everyone was spreading a false gospel to all nations? Do you see how ridiculous this sounds? I’m inclined to think not.

 

[Sidon]

So let’s put into perspective everything you’ve said.

Let me put it into perspective for you.
Until 1961 "Catholics" were not allowed to read their bible.
THey were told...>"if you want to know, go see your Priest, or similar.

As for Protestants, they are the primary group that understood that Salvation is a Gift, tho the Apostle Paul understood this in all His Epistles, as he explained.

You dont earn or perform for a Gift.
Its called "The GIFT of Salvation".

 

[BNR32FAN]

Let me put it into perspective for you.
Until 1961 "Catholics" were not allowed to read their bible.
THey were told...>"if you want to know, go see your Priest, or similar.

As for Protestants, they are the primary group that understood that Salvation is a Gift, tho the Apostle Paul understood this in all His Epistles, as he explained.

You dont earn or perform for a Gift.
Its called "The GIFT of Salvation".

Your referring to the Roman Catholic Church which was excommunicated from the Catholic Church in 1054AD. The Orthodox Catholic Church never forbid anyone from reading the scriptures they simply weren’t available to the general public before the 16th century because they had to be hand written. Some versions were available to the public but were quite expensive because they had to be hand written into several books. Most people were illiterate in that time and couldn’t afford to buy one.

So you don’t see a problem with the absence of the true gospel being preached for 1500 years? Or that tens of thousands of believers if not more, spread out over thousands of mile apart who endured persecution, beatings, imprisonment, and even martyrdom, all to spread the gospel of Christ just all the sudden conspired together and agreed to preaching a false gospel without any sign of resistance whatsoever? That’s absolutely impossible. That doesn’t seem strange to you at all? Did the Holy Spirit decide to take a vacation for 1500 years? Jesus specifically said that evil would not prevail over His church and your telling me that it did prevail for over 1500 years until Martin Luther finally came along to set everyone straight? Your telling me that Jesus’ church completely disappeared from the face of the earth for 1500 years. That’s ridiculous.

 

[Sidon]

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Your telling me that Jesus’ church completely disappeared from the face of the earth for 1500 years. That’s ridiculous.

You speak very good "catholic", continuously, for someone who told us you are not a "catholic".

Also , The Gospel of Jesus, which is the Gospel of the Grace of God, or "the preaching of the Cross", which is Justification by faith.... never disappeared.
It was just contradicted by the "dark ages".
I think you know what "religion" created the dark ages.

 

[BNR32FAN]

You speak very good "catholic", continuously, for someone who told us you are not a "catholic".

Also , The Gospel of Jesus, which is the Gospel of the Grace of God, or "the preaching of the Cross", which is Justification by faith.... never disappeared.
It was just contradicted by the "dark ages".
I think you know what "religion" created the dark ages.

No but seriously answer the question, did the true gospel disappear from the face of the earth for 1500 years? You say it didn’t but no church taught what you teach until the reformation.

 

[Sidon]

No but seriously answer the question, did the true gospel disappear from the face of the earth for 1500 years?

The Truth is Jesus as the only way to God. John 14:6
The Truth, is that Jesus who is God, shed God's blood for the sin of the world, and all who come to the Cross, repenting of their unbelief and give their faith in Christ to God, God redeems.
This Redemption, is the "Gift of Salvation", and its a free gift.
This has never stopped happening,.... this has never stopped being offered.
It will continue until the instant the "time of the gentiles ends".

 

[BeyondET]

You are free to believe that.

It’s straight from the Bible, they supposed he was dead but he wasn’t when had been stoned.

 

[BeyondET]

The Truth, is that Jesus who is God, shed God's blood for the sin of the world,

Human blood is not God’s blood, that sounds weird.

 

[Sidon]

It’s straight from the Bible, they supposed he was dead but he wasn’t when had been stoned.

It does not say he didn't die.
Read it.
It says they "supposed Him Dead".
Why would they think that?
Its because the examined him.

 

[Sidon]

Human blood is not God’s blood, that sounds weird.

Jesus is God.
God hanging on the Cross, is "God's Blood".
That's not "weird",...... that is the BLood Atonement that only God can provide to the world. John 3:16
Notice that a couple of criminals were hanging on separate crosses, near to Jesus.
There is a reason that their blood can't forgive your sin.

Figure this out, asap.

 

[BeyondET]

It does not say he didn't die.
Read it.
It says they "supposed Him Dead".
Why would they think that?
Its because the examined him.

why would it say supposedly if he was actually dead? no where says the examined the body you are assuming they did. they stoned him dragged him out of the city left for dead but he wasn't. the bible is clear on that.