Yet at the same time useful to the person experiencing the moment. That moment of "aweness" when seeing a rainbow has a way of touching the person directly.
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Yet at the same time useful to the person experiencing the moment. That moment of "aweness" when seeing a rainbow has a way of touching the person directly.'Objectivity' is defined by the scientific method itself. Wherever the method is able to be applied, (as decided by way of its criterion of testability), objectivity is determined.
You'll find this differs from broadly defined dictionary definitions, which are usually so generalised to the point of practical uselessness only ever producing circularity .. unlike science's definitions.
It seems to me that without conscious awareness, how can a person be aware of their surrounding? And with each person's awareness subjectively different from each other.Whether you or he were conscious at the time is not
a matter of how anyone feels about it.
Are you proposing that gravity is the force that mediates between the spirit and the brain? If not, this is irrelevant..
No, it isn't. Not interesting at all.
Your interactions with your surroundings is your business.It seems to me that without conscious awareness, how can a person be aware of their surrounding? And with each person's awareness subjectively different from each other.
It is completely relevant to the demonstration that as with gravity, science does not give you the physical mechnanism :it observes it does not explain in any fundamental sense. The names you give are to empirical patterns of observations not underpinning laws of the universe.
It is certainly interesting that the evidence demonstrates consciousness cannot be a process of a physical brain.
So the materialist view point does not work and is thereby buried.
My surroundings tell me that God is WAY bigger than any Scripture can ever be.Your interactions with your surroundings is your business.
But when your surroundings start telling you things that go against Scripture, then you need to learn to put your surroundings in its place.
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As I said ...My surroundings tell me that God is WAY bigger than any Scripture can ever be.
I had a leech latch onto my ankle just recently .. I also felt it 'bite' into me, which I found curious. Because of past encounters with these beasties I knew instantly how to sort this one out. I ran back to my car (with leech attached) and retrieved my trusty personal insecticide. He was no match for that stuff!Yet at the same time useful to the person experiencing the moment. That moment of "aweness" when seeing a rainbow has a way of touching the person directly.
A mountain was involved when Moses came across those writings too, eh? Perhaps they were his subjective experience also?Moses.
Deuteronomy 10:20 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name.
I told that leech I encountered the other day to 'Bug off' out aloud! (Saying it out aloud reminded me of the name of my trusty insecticide).And, if so, does it bug you that, when Jesus told nature what to do, nature did it without question?
It certainly bugs academia.
The fact I am talking about is that consciousness is qualia. This is well acknowledged. As mentioned there are no facts about consciousness at present as far as verifying its fundamental nature. But we can say that conscious experience can only be understood from the subject and this is about qualitative experiences.
So in principle as science can only deal with quantifying the world then consciousness is beyond science. Science can only describe the behavior of consciousness, it cannot explain what it actually is.
In fact science cannot even tell us what matter is. It can only describe its behavior. So if we don't even know the fundamental nature of matter how can science help with consciousness.
But when your surroundings start telling you things that go against Scripture, then you need to learn to put your surroundings in its place.
Bacteria and plants are aware enough to react toIt seems to me that without conscious awareness, how can a person be aware of their surrounding? And with each person's awareness subjectively different from each other.
That is correct.In other words, when reality and the Bible disagree, reality is the one that is wrong.
That is correct.
Or, as I like to put it:
1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own
Sure it is. With out that experience, a person is consciously dead.
My surroundings tell me that God is WAY bigger than any Scripture can ever be.
Don't lose sight of the fact this is all about AV's distortions of the Bible.So, just to clarify:
Reality is not always real.
...knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. 21 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. (2 Peter 1: 20-21)
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