TagliatelliMonster
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You didn't answer the question.
Are you really going to deny that the american "pioneers" mass slaughtered native americans and stole their land?
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There is archaeology you know, not just Hollywood.
Another random comment that completely misses the point being made.
Or is it a random comment to distract from the point being made? Not sure.
Nobody is talking about apes "imitating" humans.
Great apes are self-aware, regardless of humans. It's just the way it is.
You didn't answer the question.
Are you really going to deny that the american "pioneers" mass slaughtered native americans and stole their land?
Atheism
I am referring to gnostic, militaristic atheists who do vehemently assert that there positively is no God.
About atheism consisting of absolutely no beliefs whatsoever.
Please note that isf that were literally true then atheism would be undefinable.
Obviously that isn't the case and the beliefs of those who claim to be atheists are always used to provide a definition.
Disbelief in something or a declaration that one doesn't know one ay or the other constitutes a belief or an opinion if you prefer. So you are logically contradicting yourself.
How would I give proof? How do any give proof that anything can come from absolute nothing?
This being illogical is why I am certain of the necessary existence that is explanatory of further existence being made.
But darwinian evolution is stated to have no reason or end goal for what it's doing - it's just mindlessly happening
If that's true then there actually can't be a reason for why/how we're self-aware,
which means there's no truth to be discovered about it, which means any effort to discover the truth is futile, which means all science is futile.
It's not difficult to see why people reject the notion that we're merely a result of mindless happenstance.
Then, correct the capitalizing of Great Apes and write great apes as you should have done; no need of idolizing of the great apes.
And more irrelevant nonsense that has nothing whatsoever to do with the point being made.
Once more, great apes are self-aware, regardless of humans. It's just the way it is.
No, how could I deny this.
Self-awareness has nothing to do with mankind comparing itself with the great apes. Great apes are great apes and humans are humans.
Then stop arguing about it and don't pretend as if the "western man brought civilization" to them. What they brought to them, was desease and death.
Which is about the same thing they brought to just about all western "colonies".
1. Humans ARE great apes.
2. this came up some posts ago, before you started derailing it, as a reply to a post where it was insinuated that self-awareness in humans is somehow special / unique and requires extra-ordinary explanation. By pointing out that all great apes are self-aware, I showed that to be flawed reasoning.
The mere fact that great apes are classified as self-aware, doesn't by default mean that humans should compare themselves with them in any way; the human self-awareness runs much deeper, just like the silent water. The big apes have no ''silent water'' to ''run deep''.
This is simply not true. How about the many ''Indians'' who were helping the whites survive when they came to the newly established settlements?
How about the ''Indian'' scouts who were helping the whites fright ''Indian'' people? Because, without these scouts the final victory of the whites would have been impossible.
It's just the same with the Portuguese slave trade. Black Africans were enslaving their countrymen and selling them to the whites.
Where are those "Indians" today?
You're just confirming my point.
Perhaps the "morally superior christian westerners" could have told them "slavery is evil"?
Humans are apes. This is by definition and not arguable.
Not so, according to recent science, humans are primates, yet zillions of times more different than other primates.
According to the Bible proving that God exists shouldn't be even necessary since it is described as being so obvious that anyone denying it has absolutely no valid excuse to be doing so.
They are in reservation camps, drinking alcohol. As their body lacks the enzymes to dissolve it properly, as in whites' body, they are very much more prone to chronic alcoholism.
You are confirming the point that westerners didn't go there to "bring civilization".How am I confirming your point? There were traitors in the ranks of the ''Indians'' who won the victory over their countrymen is all I said.
The Christian westerners had Christianity and could have easily disengaged themselves from slave trade anytime
they wanted to or felt the spiritual need to do so. But, the voodoo religion wouldn't give such a possibility to the blacks.
The mere fact that great apes are classified as self-aware, doesn't by default mean that humans should compare themselves with them in any way; the human self-awareness runs much deeper, just like the silent water. The big apes have no ''silent water'' to ''run deep''.
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