How to Prevent the Californication of America

[Vambram]

How to prevent the Californication of America | Fox News

California pushed through two soft-on-crime propositions that Americans need to know about

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In my opinion, California has been swiftly going downhill for more than several years.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Yes, what state would want to have the largest economy of the entire country?

 

[Vambram]

Yes, what state would want to have the largest economy of the entire country?

Yes, what state, besides California, is seeing a significant amount of citizens leaving California in order to move to another state?
What state, besides California, refuses to prosecute and punish criminals which would go a long way to keeping peaceful citizens safe from criminals?

 

[essentialsaltes]

FTA:California pushed through two soft-on-crime propositions that Americans need to know about
Prop 47 makes property thefts valued at less than $950 an automatic misdemeanor,

Texas code:

(e) Except as provided by Subsections (f) and (f-1), an offense under this section is:
(1) a Class C misdemeanor if the value of the property stolen is less than $100;
(2) a Class B misdemeanor if:
(A) the value of the property stolen is $100 or more but less than $750;
(B) the value of the property stolen is less than $100 and the defendant has previously been convicted of any grade of theft; or
(C) the property stolen is a driver's license, commercial driver's license, or personal identification certificate issued by this state or another state;
(3) a Class A misdemeanor if the value of the property stolen is $750 or more but less than $2,500;
(4) a state jail felony if:
(A) the value of the property stolen is $2,500 or more

So you can steal twice as much in Texas and it's still a misdemeanor.

Prop 57 "increases parole and "good behavior" opportunities [in potentia] for felons convicted of a "nonviolent felony offense.""

(I would also note this article is in the opinion section and not the news.)

 

[Vambram]

Misdemeanors in Texas: Classification & Penalties - TCDG

A misdemeanor is a criminal offense that is considered less serious than a felony. Call Texas Criminal Defense Group today!

texascriminaldefensegroup.com

I ain't sure if this link will work. But a Google search shows that a Class A misdemeanor in Texas is punishable for up to 1 year in jail and/or $4000 fine.

Right now, I don't know what the punishment is by law in California. However, it does appear that California DA's don't want to, or they are unable, to see to it that those laws are enforced.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Yes, what state, besides California, is seeing a significant amount of citizens leaving California in order to move to another state?

Every state with high housing prices. Newsome is actually trying to do something about that by overriding the local zoning laws that block new housing.

 

[Vambram]

High housing prices are only just one of the many reasons American citizens are moving away from California.

 

[BCP1928]

High housing prices are only just one of the many reasons American citizens are moving away from California.

What is another reason? Oh, wait..."American citizens" is clue.

 

[Vambram]

High state taxes
Very unsafe cities with high crime rates

Does this description of California sound like a state you would want to live in?

 

[essentialsaltes]

High state taxes
Very unsafe cities with high crime rates

Does this description of California sound like a state you would want to live in?

Taxes are high, yes, but I'll take the reality over perception.

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Violent crime overall in Los Angeles decreased more than 3% in 2023, officials said Wednesday, despite a perception that the nation’s second-largest city is unsafe.

 

[Vambram]

Taxes are high, yes, but I'll take the reality over perception.

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Violent crime overall in Los Angeles decreased more than 3% in 2023, officials said Wednesday, despite a perception that the nation’s second-largest city is unsafe.

Do the people of Los Angeles actually believe that claim?

 

[Hazelelponi]

High state taxes
Very unsafe cities with high crime rates

Does this description of California sound like a state you would want to live in?

I've personally never understand why people like California and New York. I'm talking even back in the 80's California held no appeal.

It's done nothing but get worse since then... They are bringing back diseases that haven't been seen in hundreds of years because of unclean conditions in the streets with all the homeless.

Couple that with unchecked crime, rampant drug use and high housing costs etc and it's not a place I would send my worst enemies to live.

Just no appeal.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I've personally never understand why people like California and New York. I'm talking even back in the 80's California held no appeal.

It's done nothing but get worse since then... They are bringing back diseases that haven't been seen in hundreds of years because of unclean conditions in the streets with all the homeless.

Couple that with unchecked crime, rampant drug use and high housing costs etc and it's not a place I would send my worst enemies to live.

Just no appeal.

What diseases? I live in CA. A lot of drug users that I know, came from Red States. I wouldn't want to move out of CA. I've been to Red States, I wasn't impressed.

 

[Hazelelponi]

What diseases? I live in CA. A lot of drug users that I know, came from Red States. I wouldn't want to move out of CA. I've been to Red States, I wasn't impressed.

Typhoid Fever, Typhus & Tuberculosis: Are L.A.'s Medieval Diseases Coming To Your City?

Los Angeles has a growing problem with diseases borne by both flea and feces... In addition, there have been outbreaks of hepatitis A, tuberculosis, and staph in L.A. and other West Coast cities. Why is this happening—and will spread to other cities?

www.forbes.com

California also has an extremely high level of fecal matter in your water ways...

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Yes, what state, besides California, is seeing a significant amount of citizens leaving California in order to move to another state?
What state, besides California, refuses to prosecute and punish criminals which would go a long way to keeping peaceful citizens safe from criminals?

If my morning commute is anything to go by, not nearly enough people have moved out as I'd probably like to see. Considering there's something around 40 million people centered around 3 major urban centers, I'd say it's actually pretty safe here compared to other, redder parts of the country.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Do the people of Los Angeles actually believe that claim?

Here I am, believing it.

 

[NxNW]

I've personally never understand why people like California and New York. I'm talking even back in the 80's California held no appeal.

It's done nothing but get worse since then... They are bringing back diseases that haven't been seen in hundreds of years because of unclean conditions in the streets with all the homeless.

Couple that with unchecked crime, rampant drug use and high housing costs etc and it's not a place I would send my worst enemies to live.

Just no appeal.

When was the last time you were in California?

 

[iluvatar5150]

High housing prices are only just one of the many reasons American citizens are moving away from California.

Taxes are on the high side, but that could be more than compensated for by the higher wages.

I've personally never understand why people like California and New York. I'm talking even back in the 80's California held no appeal.

Jobs and money. Culture. People. There are a number of industries with a bulk of -if not virtually all of- their work located there and, prior to WFH, if you wanted to do that sort of work, you didn't have any options other than move.

There's also loads more to do in those areas, especially if you're into anything related to the arts.

It's done nothing but get worse since then...

It's gotten worse since the 80's when violent crime rates were far higher and when smog blanketed LA? I doubt that.

They are bringing back diseases that haven't been seen in hundreds of years because of unclean conditions in the streets with all the homeless.

Couple that with unchecked crime, rampant drug use and high housing costs etc and it's not a place I would send my worst enemies to live.

Just no appeal.

Typhoid Fever, Typhus & Tuberculosis: Are L.A.'s Medieval Diseases Coming To Your City?

Los Angeles has a growing problem with diseases borne by both flea and feces... In addition, there have been outbreaks of hepatitis A, tuberculosis, and staph in L.A. and other West Coast cities. Why is this happening—and will spread to other cities?

www.forbes.com

That article is four years old and was written by a former Republican legislator-turned think tank boss. That doesn't mean he's wrong necessarily, but it does suggest his data is outdated and that he just miiiight have an agenda. For one thing, we know that homelessness is driven primarily by housing costs more than even poverty, yet he doesn't mention housing policy at all.

California also has an extremely high level of fecal matter in your water ways...

I couldn't find anything about inland waterways, but at least on coastal beaches, gulf states are worse than the west coast:

55% of American beaches have unsafe levels of fecal contamination

More than half of all beaches in America had at least one day in 2022 where the water tested positive for potentially unsafe levels of fecal contamination.

katv.com

 

[durangodawood]

People mostly hear about CA from Fox "news" and other outlets even more politically motivated. Its not a good way to get a realistic picture, even though certain parts of CA do have some bad problems.

I agree that a lot of the trouble stems from housing costs.

 

[iluvatar5150]

People mostly hear about CA from Fox "news" and other outlets even more politically motivated. Its not a good way to get a realistic picture, even though certain parts of CA do have some bad problems.

I agree that a lot of the trouble stems from housing costs.

Every state has its problems, but the vast majority of people I see railing about places like CA, NYC, Chicago, etc, are folkd who rarely even visit them, much less live there, and are oblivious to how they really compare to their own locales. I live in Baltimore, which is far worse on a number of metrics than most cities, but there are loads of good things about this city, too, and I'd rather live here than anywhere I've been/lived in the rust belt.