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Thadman-I think you made the point some of us was making when you used the example

why would Peter, who was there when he explained the parable, refuse to eat unclean animals in his vision?

Because we no longer follow as the flesh, but after the Spirit. Our flesh, therefore anything partaining to it, was nailed to the cross:

Rom 7:5-6
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Rom 8:3-5
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
 
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How to Observe the Sabbath



How are we to observe or remember the Sabbath? Since it's a commandment.
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You can be as 'wordy' as you want, but so far, you've said absolutely nothing. You missed my point. There are those who believe, perhaps not you, that a day will justify them or make them righteous. And there are those who believe, and again, perhaps not you, that it is sin to eat or not eat certain foods - perhaps from their misunderstanding of Scripture in the first place.

Please note, I make no judgement to you or anyone else who believe, feel, need, require, to worship on whatever day they choose to worship.




Before the Sabbath can be observed in the right manner one must be sure about the Sabbath. What day is the Sabbath?

Few people in this world are honest enough to admit that the Sabbath is the 7th day of the week.

The Roman Catholic Church is honest enough to say so. They have come out in print and said it is.

Why can't the rest of the world do the same?

 
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The Sabbath is the 7th day of the week.

It's not about admitting or denying. You cannot deny a truth as much as you cannot admit a truth. It remains a truth. Our beliefs does not make it any more or less a truth.



No arguement with me which is the Sabbath. The Bible says it is the 7th day.

Worship God on the day He told us to.
 
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I was raised SDA, and so had followed the Saturday Sabbath.
But after studying scripture, and following the Spirit, it became quite obvious to me that following the letter of the law is not what we were or are required to do. From the beginning, the law only showed us our inquities, showing us that trust in God was the only way to salvation.
Jesus followed the law for us; thereby fullfilling the requirements set forth by the law: breaking the law requires death.
But shedding of innocent blood was the only way for us to come before the Creator and be purged of our unrightousness.
But we know all this.
The point I tried to make is that now the law is pointing to that which is perfect, and everyday we must look to Him who brought us salvation; and not dwell on those things that have passed away.
 
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Hi bjh
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Hebrews 4 seems to indicate that there is rest now - a Sabbath rest not tied to a day but to the Lord of the Sabbath. We who believe enter that rest. "And the one who has entered (past tense) His rest has rested from his works."

Happy day to ya. Im lookin into what ya wrote about Hebrews 4, but decided to look into whats said at the end of Hebrews 3 first just to get a feel as to whats being talked about in 4.

HEBREWS 3 [12]Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. [13] But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. [14] For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; [15] While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. [16] For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses. [17] But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? [18] And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? [19] So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

(out of Egypt - into the wilderness - destoyed them that believe not)

The above new testament passage says you can deny God and Jesus,and walk in the spirit of unbelief. So who are these people and why were they killed in the wilderness? The answer would be very important, as this passage tells us NOT to do as they did and walk with an evil heart of unbelief.

EZEK.20 [10] Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt, and brought them into the wilderness. [11] And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.[12] Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.[13] But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.

(out of Egypt - into the wilderness - polluted HIS SABBATHS - destroyed them)

When we go back to the old testament to see exactly what the new testament is talkin about we find that Hebrews 3 is speaking of those who did not keep the sabbath and how the Lord destroyed them in the wilderness because of unbelief. So the scripture in Hebrews 3 is telling us, as believers we must keep the sabbath.

DEUT.5[15] And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.

(remember-out of Egypt-Keep the Sabbath)

HEBREWS 4 [1] Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.[2] For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.[3] For we which have believed do enter into rest,

There ya have it. Those that do believe, keep Gods sabbath rest and those with the spirit of unbelief do not.
 
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Just a little somethin extra to show how great the WORD is. After posting Ezek. i remembered that there are only 2 places in the KJV were the words (moreover also) can be found

EZEK.20 .[12] Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them

ACTS 2 [26] Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

If you will notice in ACTS 2 the WORD says “my flesh shall rest in hope”. Just as GODS 4th commandment reads.
 
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Seems EZEK.20 chock full of good stuff

EZEKIEL 20[12] Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

MY Sabbaths - sign - I the LORD sanctify them

ISAIAH 66[15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

I love to look at scriptures talking about the Day of the Lord. Thats when the fat lady sings. Yogi will even know its over.

Well if Gods sabbath is a sign of santification we can pretty much figure out who these people are that sanctify themselves(verse 17). "One tree in the midst" , graven image maybe?
 
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Wreck n Sow said:
Hi bjh
you wrote
Hebrews 4 seems to indicate that there is rest now - a Sabbath rest not tied to a day but to the Lord of the Sabbath. We who believe enter that rest. "And the one who has entered (past tense) His rest has rested from his works."

Happy day to ya. Im lookin into what ya wrote about Hebrews 4, but decided to look into whats said at the end of Hebrews 3 first just to get a feel as to whats being talked about in 4.

HEBREWS 3 [12]Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. [13] But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. [14] For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; [15] While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. [16] For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses. [17] But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? [18] And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? [19] So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

(out of Egypt - into the wilderness - destoyed them that believe not)

The above new testament passage says you can deny God and Jesus,and walk in the spirit of unbelief. So who are these people and why were they killed in the wilderness? The answer would be very important, as this passage tells us NOT to do as they did and walk with an evil heart of unbelief.

EZEK.20 [10] Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt, and brought them into the wilderness. [11] And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.[12] Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.[13] But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.
Why does the Ezekiel passage merely call the sabbath a sign (v. 12)?

Is it not, like the passover, a sign of the One to come? Is not Christ your Passover Lamb like He is mine? Is not Christ your Sabbath rest like He is mine? The assumption here is "of course He is". Really, what's the squabble over a day of the week when we have much more in Christ?

For many believers, myself included, relatively speaking, the last day of the week means nothing when it comes to the things of Christ. The first day of the week, on which He was raised means everything.

"He who was delivered up because of our transgressions and was raised because of our justification" (Rom 4:25 NASB)

"That I may know Him and the power of His resurrection..." (Phil 3:10)

"He who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord." (Rom 1:4)

"if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins." (1 Cor 15:17)

"...if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." (Rom 10:9)

"{I pray that} the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe. {These are} in accordance with the working of the strength of His might which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly {places,} far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come." (Eph 1:18-21)

God rested on the seventh day, but He raised His Son on the first. Hallelujah! Isn't that something to celebrate? Isn't that a far better thing? It is for me.

This is who I worship, and this is why I worship. I will not judge you for what you would like to remember, but please don't judge me for what I would like to remember.
 
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I dont do this to judge no man

Matthew 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Thats why i do this
 
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God rested on the seventh day, but He raised His Son on the first. Hallelujah! Isn't that something to celebrate? Isn't that a far better thing? It is for me

God raising His Son is something to celebrate, but in Spirit, not in days. Is God's creation something to celebrate? Again yes, because He set aside that day and blessed it, and sanctified it. How can you put something of God's will to be better than anything else? All law has been fulfilled by the will of God, and that is what we celebrate.

You used the example of the passover. Do you still follow the passover by the letter of the law or through the Spirit? We all follow after the Spirit of Redemption, for those things of the body are passed away.

Gal 5:22-25
22 the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
 
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God rested on the seventh day, but He raised His Son on the first. Hallelujah! Isn't that something to celebrate? Isn't that a far better thing? It is for me
But where in the Bible does it say to rest and worship God on the first day of the week?

There is nothing to say you cannot worship and rest on the first but by doing that it is not God ordained. God said to rest on the 7th day.
 
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MATT.18 [11] For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. [12] How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?[13] And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.

the Son of man is come to save that which was lost

MATT.15 [22] And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.[23] But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.[24] But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel

JER.50 [4] In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the LORD their God.[5] They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.[6] My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.

My people hath been lost sheep
they have forgotten their restingplace
let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten
Ya see that In Him, The children of Israel(ten tribes) and the tribe of Judah(jews)
ten men will take hold the skirt of him that is a Jew

EXODUS 31 [16] Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

If you have a KJV bible you will find the words “perpetual covenant” only in these 2 scriptures.Aint the Word great InHim. Jesus said that he was Lord of the sabbath day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
 
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If you have a KJV bible you will find the words “perpetual covenant” only in these 2 scriptures.Aint the Word great InHim. Jesus said that he was Lord of the sabbath day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
The 7th day Sabbath is a perpetual covenant, that is forever. Jesus kept the sabbath and never changed it so why would I want to keep holy any other day?
 
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Jesus may have kept the Sabbath, but to the eyes of that day's religious establishment, He did not. (John 9:16; Luke 13:10-17; 14:1-6)

Yet, Christ, Himself, is our Sabbath rest.

What good is the observation of a day? (Galatians 4:10; Romans 14:5; Colossians 2:16)

The substance belongs to Christ.
 
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Jesus may have kept the Sabbath, but to the eyes of that day's religious establishment, He did not. (John 9:16; Luke 13:10-17; 14:1-6)

Yet, Christ, Himself, is our Sabbath rest.

What good is the observation of a day? (Galatians 4:10; Romans 14:5; Colossians 2:16)

The substance belongs to Christ.

You ask why we should observe a day.

It is not the observing of a day that makes a person righteous.

God say we should observe the 7th day Sabbath as He has stated in His Word.

Until it has been changed by God then we should keep observing it.
 
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bjh said:
Jesus may have kept the Sabbath, but to the eyes of that day's religious establishment, He did not. (John 9:16; Luke 13:10-17; 14:1-6)

Yet, Christ, Himself, is our Sabbath rest.

What good is the observation of a day? (Galatians 4:10; Romans 14:5; Colossians 2:16)

The substance belongs to Christ.
Jesus did keep the Sabbath to the letter as it is written down in the Torah :)

If you'll read the arguments the Pharisees and Scribes were throwing at him, you'll notice that they have no basis in the Torah at all, and are in fact oral traditions. Jesus was teaching the Torah to a people who had long-since forsaken it for the sake of man-made traditions. :)

Those references to observance of days has also to do with oral traditions. The Pharisees and Saducees interpreted the Bible differently when it came to such holidays as Shauv`ot (which is coming up this Sunday ;) ). Here's a good link that explains what the hubbub was all about from a Jewish website: http://www.karaite-korner.org/shavuot.shtml

They celebrated the same holidays, but just debated on the calculation of these days (or in some cases, how many days to celebrate). One thing that they never disagreed on was the day of the Sabbath: Friday at sunset to Saturday at sunset.

What "work" was, however, was up for debate, but you'll notice that there is very little concering its definition in the Torah. :)

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