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How to Observe the Sabbath
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By not letting any man "judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." (Col 2:16) All of the Law of Moses is Christ's shadow. He is the body that the shadow is projected by. Therefore, all of the Law points to Christ and is fulfilled in Christ.
We find also, the verse afore, (Col 2:14) "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;" an cross-reference it with (Eph 2:15) "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" -- Jesus abolished the Law on the cross by His death. But someone says, "wait a minute, what about Mat 5:17, Think not that I am come to destroy the law...but to fulfil." He means that He would not destroy the Law WITHOUT fulfilling it, but rather abolish it BY fulfilling it.
Jesus Himself is the fulfillment of the Law, and in that it is a shadow, it is not necessary since we have the body, the substance, which is Jesus Christ, whereas the Jews had only the shadow.
We find also, the verse afore, (Col 2:14) "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;" an cross-reference it with (Eph 2:15) "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" -- Jesus abolished the Law on the cross by His death. But someone says, "wait a minute, what about Mat 5:17, Think not that I am come to destroy the law...but to fulfil." He means that He would not destroy the Law WITHOUT fulfilling it, but rather abolish it BY fulfilling it.
Jesus Himself is the fulfillment of the Law, and in that it is a shadow, it is not necessary since we have the body, the substance, which is Jesus Christ, whereas the Jews had only the shadow.
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Dad Ernie
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Greetings ChristianBeginning,
Good response from ChristianOnly,
Matthew 12:5-8 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? 6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. 7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
If Christ is YOUR Lord, then He will direct you to a fellowship of believers. It may be a particular organized Church, a "home fellowship" or just a group of brothers and sisters in Christ that get together to enjoy each other in the presence of the Lord. We are just to remember this:
Hebrews 10:24-25 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Blessings,
Dad Ernie
Good response from ChristianOnly,
Matthew 12:5-8 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? 6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. 7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
If Christ is YOUR Lord, then He will direct you to a fellowship of believers. It may be a particular organized Church, a "home fellowship" or just a group of brothers and sisters in Christ that get together to enjoy each other in the presence of the Lord. We are just to remember this:
Hebrews 10:24-25 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Blessings,
Dad Ernie
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bjh
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Keeping the Sabbath was a commandment for Jews. What were commands given to Gentiles?
1) New Testament instructions to the church as a whole, and...
2) Acts 15 says
a) Abstain from things contaminated by idols
b) Abstain from fornication
c) Abstain from what is strangled
d) Abstain from blood
Whether you keep either the sabbath (Saturday) or Sunday set apart is up to you.
Rom 14:5-8 "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. 7 For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; 8 for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lords."
A word of caution, however. Do not observe the day for the day's sake. (Galatians 4:8-10). I realize that this extends beyond Saturdays or Sundays. If we celebrate holidays, let us also make sure that we celebrate them for the Lord's sake, and for His glory.
1) New Testament instructions to the church as a whole, and...
2) Acts 15 says
a) Abstain from things contaminated by idols
b) Abstain from fornication
c) Abstain from what is strangled
d) Abstain from blood
Whether you keep either the sabbath (Saturday) or Sunday set apart is up to you.
Rom 14:5-8 "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. 7 For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; 8 for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lords."
A word of caution, however. Do not observe the day for the day's sake. (Galatians 4:8-10). I realize that this extends beyond Saturdays or Sundays. If we celebrate holidays, let us also make sure that we celebrate them for the Lord's sake, and for His glory.
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As any Adventist will tell you the Sabbath is Saturday, which I spend mowing the yard, playing with my kids, or visiting relatives and friends.
Sunday is the day we Christians celebrate as the Lord's Day. This was the day Christ rose and new life began for all those who believed in Him. This is our Sabbath.
On that day I do not do any unecessary work and try to spend it with family, in prayer, and spiritual reading. I disagree that you should just pick a day to observe. Sunday is the Lord's Day -- this should be kept holy, not legalistically, but out of respect and love for Christ.
Sunday is the day we Christians celebrate as the Lord's Day. This was the day Christ rose and new life began for all those who believed in Him. This is our Sabbath.
On that day I do not do any unecessary work and try to spend it with family, in prayer, and spiritual reading. I disagree that you should just pick a day to observe. Sunday is the Lord's Day -- this should be kept holy, not legalistically, but out of respect and love for Christ.
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Dad Ernie
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Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.Breanainn said:
1 Corinthians 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
Christians celebrate the "resurrection" of Christ and NOT His death.
However, no day is held higher than any others, as has already been noted.
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Oblio
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Dad Ernie,
An important nitpick. While this Scripture verifies (along with ECF testimony) that Sunday was a Resurrectional Feast day in the Early Church, it does not testify that the Sabbath changed to Sunday. This is a common misconception by those who would demonize worship on the Mystical Eighth day.
An important nitpick. While this Scripture verifies (along with ECF testimony) that Sunday was a Resurrectional Feast day in the Early Church, it does not testify that the Sabbath changed to Sunday. This is a common misconception by those who would demonize worship on the Mystical Eighth day.
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Oblio, exactly.
I'm asking for anyone who says the Sabbath has been "changed" to Sunday to provide scriptural support that the Sabbath changed, not that people gathered on Sunday.
I'm asking for anyone who says the Sabbath has been "changed" to Sunday to provide scriptural support that the Sabbath changed, not that people gathered on Sunday.
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christianbeginning said:
I think what you have to remember is that the Sabbath is no longer a day of the week for the Christian but Christ has now become out Sabbath.
If you want to honor Christ as our Sabbath, then the simplest way to do that is found in John 14:15, where Jesus tells his disciples, "if you love Me, then keep My commandments".
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The OT sabbath was a foreshadow of ceasing from your own works and entering into God's works, but NOT the substance, the fulfilment.
Heb:4:8: For if Joshua had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
In the OT they had laws to try to "keep them in line" and remind them, when you have the mind of Christ those things come automatically.
They already had the OT "sabbath" when Jesus said "I will give you rest". For that we need to "take his yoke", what's that ? it's what controlled / led Him - the Spirit, sure enough when people receive that same Spirit they draw on God's power and rest from trying to be like God because they are *made partakers* of His nature.
Isa:28:11: For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. :12: To whom he said, **This is the rest** wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
1Co:14:21: In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. :22: Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not
Ac:2:4: And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. :33: Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. :39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
You keep that true sabbath Holy by living the new Life and not being drawn into "dead works" that save no-one.
Heb:4:8: For if Joshua had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
In the OT they had laws to try to "keep them in line" and remind them, when you have the mind of Christ those things come automatically.
They already had the OT "sabbath" when Jesus said "I will give you rest". For that we need to "take his yoke", what's that ? it's what controlled / led Him - the Spirit, sure enough when people receive that same Spirit they draw on God's power and rest from trying to be like God because they are *made partakers* of His nature.
Isa:28:11: For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. :12: To whom he said, **This is the rest** wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
1Co:14:21: In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. :22: Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not
Ac:2:4: And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. :33: Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. :39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
You keep that true sabbath Holy by living the new Life and not being drawn into "dead works" that save no-one.
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OK - here's a simple and practical question relating to my original post:
can a Christian work on Saturdays and Sundays to make extra money?
can a Christian work on Saturdays and Sundays to make extra money?
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bjh
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Sure.christianbeginning said:
====ammended below===
There is one qualification I would mention. Let me ammend my response by saying, "Sure, as long as nobody can point a finger at you as 'forsaking our own assembling together'" (Heb 10:25, NASB)
If work causes you to consistently miss meetings, then maybe there's a problem. (And again, I said "maybe".)
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Breanainn said:
Not scriptural support, but the change was written in the canons of the early Church. The Jews observe the Sabbath and Christians began to emphasize the importance of Christ's resurrection by observing the Day of Resurrection or the Lord's Day instead. This was changed just like the changes regarding dietary laws, circumcision, etc.
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christianbeginning said:
Out of devotion to Christ, I would advise not working on Sunday, but again it's not a matter of legalism it's a matter of putting things in the proper priority. Christ, and His day of Resurrection, should be kept holy and centered on Him.
Saturdays are fine, as we don't observe the Jewish Sabbath.
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Dad Ernie
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Where would we be if doctors, firemen, paramedics, police and on and on, did not work on Saturdays and Sundays? If my house caught fire on Sunday, I would be comforted to know that a Christian was among the fire fighters.christianbeginning said:
Each day should be a day of worship of the Lord. He is Lord of the Sabbath, and if you listen to Him, He will direct your path.
Blessings,
Dad Ernie
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christianbeginning said:
In the Torah, we are merely forbidden to do any work with the only true example being that no fire was to be kindled on the Sabbath in your dwellings (not many people realize how difficult it is to start a fire with a piece of flint). Since there are no other real guidelines than (if God meant anything else he would have said so), use common sense. Does it feel like a chore? Don't do it. Jesus said that it is right to do good on the Sabbath, so I personally don't see anything wrong with volunteering help here and there.
The Pharisees who were paranoid about not doing any sort of work in the 3rd century wrote an entire tract in the compiled Talmud about it (Tract Shabbath). Talk about nitpicking, they believed that if you drag your chair a certain way you were in violation of the Sabbath.
Shlomo,
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Dad Ernie said:
There are those of us who go to volunteer Fire and EMS squads.
Shlomo,
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I think Paul makes it very clear in Hebrews 4 what the Christian Sabbath is [bracketed sections are my comments]:
"For if Jesus had given them rest [that is, if they had received true rest from Christ during the earthly Sabbath every week], then would he not afterward have spoken of another day [that eternal day that the faithful will spend with him in heaven]. There remaineth therefore a rest [Sabbath] to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works [that is, we don't truly enter His rest until after we die], as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest [which is Heaven itself], lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief." (Heb 4:8-11)
"For if Jesus had given them rest [that is, if they had received true rest from Christ during the earthly Sabbath every week], then would he not afterward have spoken of another day [that eternal day that the faithful will spend with him in heaven]. There remaineth therefore a rest [Sabbath] to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works [that is, we don't truly enter His rest until after we die], as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest [which is Heaven itself], lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief." (Heb 4:8-11)
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