How To Not sound Like A Bible Thumper?

[Spirko]

We need to talk in terms non Christians understand. Every time Jesus and Paul spoke with people with a non biblical background neither of them quoted the scriptures once.

LOL...They never quoted scripture? Where did you come up with that idea? Jesus quoted scripture constantly.

 

[Johnnz]

LOL...They never quoted scripture? Where did you come up with that idea? Jesus quoted scripture constantly.

Don't quote selectively. This is what I said: Every time Jesus and Paul spoke with people with a non biblical background neither of them quoted the scriptures once.

John
NZ

 

[Spirko]

Don't quote selectively. This is what I said: Every time Jesus and Paul spoke with people with a non biblical background neither of them quoted the scriptures once.

John
NZ

You're absolutely right. I didn't read your whole post. I see now that you said they never quoted scripture once.

Sorry about that. You're absolutely correct. Jesus didn't quote scripture once. He quoted it numerous times.

 

[realtruth101]

Thanks guys. I apologize for the shortness of the post. They were kicking me out of the library cus it was closing for the night.

Very good points.

Well, see this is an interesting case because I recently became Christian, and while my boyfriend was a Christian at this point, he has lost his faith. In becoming Christian myself, I decided to stop having sex outside of marriage. The boyfriend threw a HUGE fit, nearly broke up with me, the whole kit-n-kaboodle. But after I put my foot down and wouldnt give into his guilt trips or threats of breaking up, he decided it wasnt worth it, and is now respectful of the decision (ish....he still pushes for oral attention *cough*) and he being very loving again towards me.

ANYWAY, but during this decision, I was explaining the two reasons I decided to be celibate: 1)My beliefs and 2)I needed to learn to love and respect myself again, something I certainly did not posses.

See, i knew if I didn't mention that my "new beliefs" as it were, were a large part of my decision, then he would just try to "fix" the problem and still want sex. But everytime I said anything so much as "I need to learnt o love and respect myself through God, and for God as well as myself." he'd jump on me and accuse me of bible thumping.

So that's where this question came from. But I will still employ what you guys said, because now I'm trying to figure out how to encourage him back into faith without pushing it and making him want to wall up against it...

your not going to like this advice but get rid of the boyfriend, and seek a Godly man, If you marry this man the odds of success are slim to none, and in that slim to none is a whole lot of misrable fights and sleepless nights, Think about this God loves you! If you could understand how a father wants so much for his daughter to be happy, He would do anything to make that happen. God has a righteous and good man that will lead you into a life of happyness and spiritual wealth. Be obedient to God and He will give you the man of your dreams, this guy your with will destroy everything you hold dear

 

[Spirko]

your not going to like this advice but get rid of the boyfriend, and seek a Godly man, If you marry this man the odds of success are slim to none, and in that slim to none is a whole lot of misrable fights and sleepless nights, Think about this God loves you! If could understand how a father wants so much for his daughter to be happy, He would do anything to make that happen. God has a righteous and good man that will lead you into a life of happyness and spiritual wealth. Be obedient to God and He will give you the man of your dreams, this guy your with will destroy everything you hold dear

That's more or less what I say.

Number one, the guy doesn't have any respect for her.
Number two, he's not a Christian, so he's not going to respect not only her beliefs, but the life Christ has called her to.
Number three, what is the purpose of dating, if not to find a spouse for marriage? The Bible is very clear that we're not to marry unbelievers.

Nothing good can come out of this relationship.

 

[Johnnz]

You're absolutely right. I didn't read your whole post. I see now that you said they never quoted scripture once.

Sorry about that. You're absolutely correct. Jesus didn't quote scripture once. He quoted it numerous times.

That's fine.

Also, where Jesus did quote scripture he most frequently quoted from the first five books (the Law) because some of his audience were Sadducees and those were the only scriptures they accepted. Thus, we must be relevant to the mindsets of those we speak to about Jesus. That takes a bit of effort including using proper materials, some real thinking through issues, and graciousness in how we do communicate with people.

John
NZ

 

[highlife]

your not going to like this advice but get rid of the boyfriend, and seek a Godly man, If you marry this man the odds of success are slim to none, and in that slim to none is a whole lot of misrable fights and sleepless nights, Think about this God loves you! If could understand how a father wants so much for his daughter to be happy, He would do anything to make that happen. God has a righteous and good man that will lead you into a life of happyness and spiritual wealth. Be obedient to God and He will give you the man of your dreams, this guy your with will destroy everything you hold dear

Just dont expect Godly men to wait around forever before you are willing to commit. Godly men are still men, and dont want to have a 7 year engagement with no sex. Just keep that in mind when you wonder why things are falling apart for you.

 

[Spirko]

That's fine.

Also, where Jesus did quote scripture

In John 4 in His exchange with the Samaritan woman. He quoted 2 Kings 17:28, Isaiah 2:3, and Malachai 1:11.

he most frequently quoted from the first five books (the Law) because some of his audience were Sadducees and those were the only scriptures they accepted. Thus, we must be relevant to the mindsets of those we speak to about Jesus.

Your use of the word "thus" implies that one thing is the result of the other, which is not the case here. They are two different things.

 

[Johnnz]

The Samaritan women - she had a Jewish background. Samaritans were decsendants of Jews who had intermarried following captivity but stayed on their land. They replaced Jerusalem, which was in the realm of Judah, with the Mountain where Moses received the law as their holy place. Hence her question about which mountain.

John
NZ

 

[Grateful4EndlessLove]

Thank you for your opinions and suggestions. They are apprceicated.

 

[realtruth101]

Just dont expect Godly men to wait around forever before you are willing to commit. Godly men are still men, and dont want to have a 7 year engagement with no sex. Just keep that in mind when you wonder why things are falling apart for you.

you sound a little frustrated...lol

 

[realtruth101]

Thank you for your opinions and suggestions. They are apprceicated.

Another important thing to remember in the body of Christ, God gives each man and woman a spirit, the spirit you have may be more in line with a spirit of a prophet, they never come across the way the public would like, then there's the Evangelist, everyone loves to hear life changing stories, with no personal judgements made on those who hear it, there are teachers, administrators,and the list goes on (see 1 Cor.12) I've found many who are considered bible thumpers are just a part of the body that useally is considered less honorable, just as the prophets were, in so much they are always killed. Nobody likes to hear the word of God when their not living according to what it says. Its as simple as that......like the Apostle Paul said (something like this)to some we are the fragrence of life and to those that are perishing we are the smell of death