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To me, a humanist is a type of atheist.
This type of atheist thinks that human is god.
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Why would you say that I am a humanist? What are you basing that evaluation on? What do you mean by the word "humanist"?
eudaimonia,
Mark
I have problems seeing how you concluded that. Rather, it seems to be your premise.
Well, there are a few ways. Mostly getting rid of earth like emotions, such as hatred, anger, attachment, ego. And turns to god. Because as people of god, yours and my place isn't this earth.
In Islam, we have something called "Tasawwuf", people who learns Tasawwuf are sometimes called "Sufis", which is the "inner" dimension of Islam. The root word for Sufi, means Pure, or Wool (referring to the simplicity of clothes) and lots of other. Tasawwuf is the science whose objective is the reparation of the heart and turning it away from all else but God.
To be a good person of god, you have to have a good balance between Shari'a (physical), and Tasawwuf (spiritual, inner). As Imam Malik said "He who learns jurisprudence and neglects Tasawwuf becomes a reprobate; and he who learns Tasawwuf and neglects jurisprudence becomes an apostate. But he who combines both will reach the Truth"
Sufis turn away from all else but god, so they have no earthly desires, no anger, no greed, no hatred, no egotism and no lust. They are patient, kind, humble, and devote their time helping other people. - they try and act like how Muhammed (pbuh) acted, and best of all they act like how God wants people to act like.
However, there are lots of way to get rid of the seal (ignoraance) as Sufism is just one of many paths. But mainly to be aware of your true self. If any of that makes sense as I don't think I did a good job explaining as I am typing from a phone ._.
But getting rid of this ignorance takes time, even some Sufis practice for 20 years with their sheik! - you could even try asking God to take away the seal?
Peace
I know nothing about Islam. But based on what you said, I am surprised to see that Islam is similar to Buddhism on this issue.
Let me ask you one question: Do you take evil thought in a person as a problem, which is as serious as evil act? In other words, Is it OK for an honorable Imam to have evil thought in his mind even his behavior is blameless?
"It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed: He who intended to do good, but did not do it, one good was recorded for him, and he who intended to do good and also did it, ten to seven hundred good deeds were recorded for him. And he who intended evil, but did not commit it, no entry was made against his name, but if he committed that, it was recorded." - Book of Faith (Kitab Al-Iman) 236
Peace
To me, a humanist is a type of atheist.
This type of atheist thinks that human is god.
What is that supposed to mean? I think that human beings are human beings, and no more.
eudaimonia,
Mark
Yes, that is what I meant.
So you have basically been talking to yourself all the time?You can not see what evil is. That is why you can not see my argument.
I'm completely confused now. Are you now taking back your claim that humanists think that "human is god"?
eudaimonia,
Mark
So you have basically been talking to yourself all the time?
Humanist has no God. So, human is god can not be understood literally.
Human is the highest form of life. There is no less, and there is no more.
Human is the highest form of life.
That sounds arrogant, on what authority do you make that statement?
If you know well the Christian doctrine of evil, why are you still a Christian?
Wrong. Humanism has no gods. It as simple as that.
Wrong. There is no "highest form of life." There's more or less successful species.
evil is the shadow of a reflection of good. evil exist because Gods children allows it to exist. if no one believed evil existed and only decided to love God and everyone else then evil would go back to where it came from, which is our freedom that God gave us.
so evil comes from our irrational freedom. our irrational freedom is infinite potentiality that God decided to give each of His children.
Human is the highest form of life.
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